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The Franchise 02-23-2013 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9430204)
Ok, you're in a fantasy world. Enjoy yourself.

Prove it to me. How many LTs have been drafted in the last 10 years and successfully moved to OG?

Dave Lane 02-23-2013 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9430466)
So "your" guy is just any guy.

Have arm, will draft - RunKC

KCrockaholic 02-23-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9430410)
There's a Joeckel in EVERY DRAFT.

Well 2014 has Jake Matthews who I actually believe is better than Joeckel. Plus Taylor Lewan from Michigan.

So It's not like Joeckel is some once in a generation LT. He's a normal ass 1st round LT prospect. Nothing special or anything that makes him unique.

O.city 02-23-2013 10:50 PM

Frankly, I'm still of the opinion we end up taking a QB at 1.

RunKC 02-23-2013 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9430466)
So "your" guy is just any guy.

Nope. I want Wilson. He's my guy. But multiple QB's have the tools in this class.

O.city 02-23-2013 10:52 PM

Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record (.463)
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And before we go all off on Reid being a QB guru, the numbers don't necessarily say thats the case.

BossChief 02-23-2013 10:52 PM

I think Kalil and Okung were far superior prospects...

milkman 02-23-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9430484)
Nope. I want Wilson. He's my guy. But multiple QB's have the tools in this class.

There's a reason I put "your" in quotations.

RunKC 02-23-2013 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9430493)
Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record (.463)
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And before we go all off on Reid being a QB guru, the numbers don't necessarily say thats the case.

I'm not sure we can really judge his drafted QB's accurately. Kolb and Foles started one year in Philly.

Kolb looked good in Philly. Who knows how he would have looked had he stayed.

O.city 02-23-2013 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9430507)
I'm not sure we can really judge his drafted QB's accurately. Kolb and Foles started one year in Philly.

Kolb looked good in Philly. Who knows how he would have looked had he stayed.

Kolb was ok. I think Foles has alot more upside than Kolb, but Kolb wasn't really very good in Philly.

It really shows how stupid Arizona was to make that trade.

O.city 02-23-2013 11:01 PM

If anything, it shows that Reid can get average/slightly above average out of shit QB's. When he has a talented guy, sky's the limit.


Which, IMO, is the most exciting thing.

Hammock Parties 02-23-2013 11:07 PM

John Dorsey, Master Troll

http://i.imgur.com/2dMsM.png

NJChiefsFan 02-23-2013 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9429013)
1. Luke Joeckel
2. Tyler Wilson

I'm down for that.

I would rather keep Albert at LT so we can take a QB and CB/S/WR/LB with our first 2 picks. In your scenario we come out with two positions filled with potential. Mine it's 3. If you argue that in scenario 1 you move Albert to guard thus making it 3 positions you have helped, it still doesn't measure up. You can find a guard later in drafts. You don't need your first overall pick be an attempt to improve a guard spot.

Any way you slice it letting Albert go or moved to guard and taking a LT at 1.1 is not going to be full value. That's the irony of all this talk about Joeckel being the value pick. Picking a guy to fill a position you have a guy to fill isn't value. Adding skill at the guard position with an Albert move doesn't equal the value of what we can get in the 2nd round with CB ect.

RyFo18 02-23-2013 11:15 PM

I haven't read a single post in this thread, but just reading the title, this is the dumbest ****ing idea of all the draft ideas I've heard for the Chiefs. And it's coming from our GM?

WildTurkey 02-23-2013 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9430529)
John Dorsey, Master Troll

http://i.imgur.com/2dMsM.png

I'm surprised people are actually taking his pre draft statements seriously. He's not going to let on to what direction he and the chiefs are going until we actually make the pick.


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