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tk13 11-10-2015 11:48 PM

Yeah that'd be fun but that'd be $90-100 million in payroll too. We'd probably be 2nd or 3rd in payroll and be paying luxury tax on top of it. If the Royals even get to $140 million, which a lot of people think is possible... that might be a top 10 payroll. That's amazing for a small market with an awful TV contract.

And at this point, we could have Rickey Henderson and I think Esky would still be hitting leadoff. I do think Dayton is thinking about the future more than he gets credit for. With Ventura and Perez locked up, and guys like Mondesi, Cuthbert, Zimmer and Almonte on the way... he has something to build around.

KevB 11-11-2015 12:34 AM

The challenge with selling out to try to win another trophy the next two years is that the next tv contract comes up in 2019. Glass and GMDM will want this team to still be competitive and relevant as we go into those negotiations. So they'll work to field a championship team in '16 and '17, but with an eye toward remaining competitive in '18 and '19.

Pitt Gorilla 11-11-2015 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KCFalcon59 (Post 11875056)
Hosmer with the GG!

Yeah, but he's a horrible fielder.

alnorth 11-11-2015 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 11876014)
The challenge with selling out to try to win another trophy the next two years is that the next tv contract comes up in 2019. Glass and GMDM will want this team to still be competitive and relevant as we go into those negotiations. So they'll work to field a championship team in '16 and '17, but with an eye toward remaining competitive in '18 and '19.

Yeah, even if we make the playoffs next year and go on a nice little run, it would be a very bad idea to field a bad team in 2018.

Even if they don't make the playoffs in 2018, if we won 86 games, its 3 years out from a championship, we had another playoff team in 16 or 17, new young team with hope, then the local TV ratings are still going to be huge.

cosmo20002 11-11-2015 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11875807)
That's kinda my thoughts too. We are looking at a 2 year window...why not sellout & go for it. Keep Gordon & Zobrist. Sign Heyward. Sign a pitcher like Leake or Zimmerman. Resign CY.

Go for it!

Heyward
Zobrist
Cain
Hosmer
Morales
Gordon
Perez
Moose
Esky

That's a powerful, fast, athletic lineup that has a plus defender at each position.

Zimmerman
Volquez
Ventura
Leake
Medlen

Bullpen is still strong.

Go for it!

Might as well cancel the regular season and advance directly to playoffs with that team.

baitism 11-11-2015 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11876021)
Yeah, but he's a horrible fielder.

It's a regular season award. His D was suspect in the postseason.

suzzer99 11-11-2015 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11876054)
Might as well cancel the regular season and advance directly to playoffs with that team.

PECOTA might even project us with a winning record.

alnorth 11-11-2015 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 11876091)
It's a regular season award. His D was suspect in the postseason.

Thats true, but when do they vote? The postseason might influence people

ROYC75 11-11-2015 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 11876231)
PECOTA might even project us with a winning record.

82 - 80:shrug:

Saul Good 11-11-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 11876091)
It's a regular season award. His D was suspect in the postseason.

He made 2 errors, but he still made a lot of really nice plays. He made a beautiful scoop on a throw in the dirt by Zobrist in game 5 against the Mets to complete a double play. He also made an incredible play to scoop a pickoff throw out of the dirt and tag out the runner at first. I believe it was in the 8th or 9th inning with the potential tying run on first.

cosmo20002 11-11-2015 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11876287)
Thats true, but when do they vote? The postseason might influence people

They definitely vote sometime in Sept. After that, players scatter.

Good luck finding the exact way the winners are determined. They post the criteria for eligibility, but the winner is determined by some formula of player vote, manager and coaching staff vote and the SABR Defensive Index. As far as I can find, they don't say what the weightings are, nor do they publish results other than the finalists and winner.

alnorth 11-11-2015 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11876358)
They definitely vote sometime in Sept. After that, players scatter.

Good luck finding the exact way the winners are determined. They post the criteria for eligibility, but the winner is determined by some formula of player vote, manager and coaching staff vote and the SABR Defensive Index. As far as I can find, they don't say what the weightings are, nor do they publish results other than the finalists and winner.

ahh, well then the playoffs don't matter until maybe the following season. (ie, someone who looks terrible in the playoffs might have doubters in 2016)

Pitt Gorilla 11-11-2015 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 11876091)
It's a regular season award. His D was suspect in the postseason.

sarcasm.

Halfcan 11-11-2015 02:50 PM

What a great year for Perez-World Series MVP and 3rd straight Gold Glove.

If he keeps playing like this- he will be in the HOF some day.

CaliforniaChief 11-11-2015 02:52 PM

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