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Berry missed today's practice, back to Day-To-Day. Also Dorian O'Daniel Note (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=320226)

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14023480)

Eric Berry already got his ****ing money when he was a goddamn rookie. That contract was ****ing huge. Then he got cancer and we continued to pay his salary when we didn't have to. It's great that he roared back in his recovery and all, but Dorsey was clearly aware of what cancer does to a body. He wanted to protect the franchise and the business, which he's supposed to do. Unfortunately for him, he decided to do it against a cancer survivor, and that got him fired.

So Berry gets even more money. Lots of it. Guaranteed. He didn't need that 5 year deal. He didn't need ALL of that guaranteed money. But he sure as **** put up a fuss about it after how he was supposedly mistreated by the franchise. He got it, and then this shit happened to him. His body broke down.

When football (and all sports, really) are such a team game, yeah, you'd like to side with the players, but every time a guy gets paid, it takes away the flexibility to acquire other great players who can help us win more games. Playoff games, specifically. Home playoff games where 90% of the fanbase would mud wrestle their own grandmothers for a home playoff win, particularly against a team that just so happens to wreck their shit in agonizing ways.

And when a guy GOT paid in his rookie deal, and got paid when the team didn't have to, and then threw a tantrum until he got paid again LONGTERM, and when the shit we were afraid of paying him for actually happened, business is handled in this cryptic "day-to-day" way when the defense is absolute ****ing dogshit and could (and probably will) cost us a Super Bowl victory...

Well, fans get sick of that shit. At that point, the player who deserved to get paid (even though he already got his money) loses their respect. If he were just on the field but his play quality had gone down a couple notches (like Houston) there wouldn't be the backlash. Instead, we get tweets about his spirit and the same coaches "day to day" line. He didn't play 95% of the ****ing season and we were told "day-to-day". And he can't even retire without still ****ing us over capwise.

That's how bullshit his contract was. He hung out the franchise who cared for him out to ****ing dry. Yeah, the NFL is a business, BUT HE ALREADY GOT HIS ****ING MONEY. Berry was flat-out vindictive in that contract Clark negotiated.

He's not gonna be back. If he does get this thing fixed and is his old self again, great, but at this point, not even Marcellus is predicting that will happen.

He lost my respect. He's financially comfortable. He's cancer-free. So excuse ****ing me for comparing him to a tool or a machine that's just about at the end of its usefulness and needs to be thrown away. But that's basically what his career is now.

But how do you REALLY feel?

Is this the thread I come to shit on Eric Berry in?

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14023480)

This whole Eric Berry saga should serve as a life -long reminder to Clark, to NEVER AGAIN get involved with any contract negotiations to the same extent he did with Berry. In fact as a reminder, someone needs to tatoo the word HAGLUNDS on his forhead.

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14022872)

See he has become a distraction

Meanwhile Haglunds is pulling coin and the rest of the defense are pulling their dicks.

TakeLoadsOrally don’t forget this one ^

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14023327)

Found this tweet from Berry's agent from the middle of December - seems like he's a bit on the defensive?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He’s always done what he says he’s going to do... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKindgom?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKindgom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Berrystrong?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Berrystrong</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TNF?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TNF</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/Mp58K7DoRa">https://t.co/Mp58K7DoRa</a></p>— Chad Speck (@a3Chad) <a href="https://twitter.com/a3Chad/status/1073290178855358464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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was that a hospital bed?

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14023549)

was that a hospital bed?

Yeah. It was before the surgery to repair his Achilles.

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14023522)

What extent was Clark involved ?

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14023604)

What extent was Clark involved ?

I've been over this way too many times. You do the research. That way you can answer your own question and learn something.

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14023501)

Don't do this to yourself.

Oh, I'm not putting much stock into it. The only reason I even entertained the idea was because Reid didn't just flat rule him out.

I figure even if he doesn't play, listing him as questionable at least forces Indy to game plan for him a little bit just in case he can go.

Social media reports that Berry is out for Saturday’s game.

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14022800)

Did I move the goalposts again?

You must not have because he didn't respond to that one. He'd be all over you if you hadn't made a strong point.

It's not complicated. LDT plays on a unit that can and has replaced him decent enough. Berry plays on a unit that is horrible without him. Shocking that people are more emotional and desperate for Berry to play. Just shocking. Must be a race thing....

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14023637)

Social media reports that Berry is out for Saturday’s game.

Of course he is.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14023066)

People keep saying this but had had the surgery he would have missed the season. So what difference does it make?

Hindsight is awesome but the fact is he appeared to be 100% healthy heading into camp. You really blow the guy up for a season ending surgery over a sore heal? How often if ever has that been predicted?

Do you not think had they KNOWN how this was going to play out they would went another direction?

Its a mess, it sucks but given the options Im not sure they did handle it wrong.

Yur right, They handled it the only way they could have. They can not force him to have surgery when it popped up in TC. They all expected it to calm down and he would play. He would show signs of getting better, then pow, it happens, all season long!

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14023069)

None of what you just said discredits what I said. You're the biggest dumbass here. A reasonable player who signed a recordbreaking contract but was unable to perform at all for the life of the contract would agree to an injury settlement. Eric Berry is selfish and isn't a reasonable player. Berry has made roughly $90 million in his career so far and will end up making almost $140 million when it's all said and done despite only being available roughly half the time. A reasonable player would see that their contract is hurting the team and agree to a reduced salary to help the team. Hell, Berry is making more than Tom Brady at this point. Let that sink in.

Honestly. you are acting like the dumbass here

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14023090)

What part of his heal wasn't sore going into TC do you not understand?

So he starts getting a sore heal in TC, you think they should have immediately scheduled him for season ending surgery? Seriously?

Bingo, spot on, it's all they could do. The doctors were telling him he would be able to play.

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Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 14023115)

Had they done their due diligence, I'd say yes.

If he can't practice and it's been shown that time off won't heal it. Then all they've done is wasted precious time to heal and be ready next year.

John Wall has battled this for years supposedly but got to a point where it was too painful and they did surgery immediately. I'd say if Berry can't play, practice without pain... it's time.

Besides, how much can you really expect Berry to make an impact when he's on a snap count and has been out during the most critical times of games. Hasn't played most of the year and is obviously in pain.

It's wasted time either way, they fully expected him to play this year.

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14023116)

The Chiefs were in a lose lose situation with Berry. Re-sign him and overpay the shit out of him. Or let him walk and get roasted by the fanbase and media for letting a cancer survivor walk.

This ! it is what it is!

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14023122)

Surgery should have been done a year ago while he was rehabbing the other foot. The heel issues are not new to Berry in 2018. He should have had repairs done to both feet. As I mentioned before, Troy Tulowitzki had repairs done on both feet, so don't tell me it's not possible to repair both at the same time.

It can, but he heel was not bothering him during the off season. No need to fix something that didn't need to be fixed at the time.
Do you make care repairs when you don't have any issues with it?

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14023147)

Dude.....they ****ing tried to get Earl Thomas and he broke his leg. Exactly what else were they going to do? Collins?

Yep, when it was apparent to the FO, they tried to get some help. NYG wanted too much for Collins. They priced him high enough that they figured they will keep him.