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RunKC 10-14-2022 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16529067)
They just drafted 3 CB's in this last draft, gotta think that wasn't on accident with this in mind.

Sneed would be a tough one to lose. He's so versatile he really makes it go. But some of them will be gone, it's just the way of the sport. So if I could have this year and next with all of them and a Burns type guy, it atleast makes me think about it.

But it would depend on the cost.
In this league Spags knew that boundary outside corners are replaceable. No further proof of that then Ward. Watson has done a markedly sufficient job in that role. And why would you pay those guys? It’s too hard of a position to play at this point.

The Watson BS DPI penalty proves that. Unless you have a Jalen Ramsey or Patrick Surtain you shouldn’t pay those guys.

Sneed brings a unique skillset. He can play anywhere really. Spags has used him outside, inside, on TE’s, on blitzes and even in the SS role. He’s a lot like Mathieu was here. He’s a Jack of all trades who does nearly everything well.

If there’s a guy we pay big money too it’s probably him.

O.city 10-14-2022 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16529133)
But that's the thing - Garrett was raping faces from day 1 regardless of his help on the line. Parsons was doing the same. Joey was dynamic before Jones.

Maybe that's how you truly separate the top 5 from the rest of the very good - they don't NEED someone dynamic opposite of them to appear as good as they are.
Burns has been basically a 10 sack guy since he came into the league though.

I agree he's not Garrett or Parsons or Bosa (SF) but I'd put him right there behind those 3.

DJ's left nut 10-14-2022 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16529157)
Burns has been basically a 10 sack guy since he came into the league though.

I agree he's not Garrett or Parsons or Bosa (SF) but I'd put him right there behind those 3.
He hasn't been better than Clark was in Seattle. And he's had a very similar role - 'pin ears, get QB'.

He's closer to 2018 Frank Clark than 2022 Garrett, without question.

Garrett, Bosa, etc... - the truly elite; those guys are potential 15 sack seasons waiting to happen. I don't think Burns is that guy. He's in a pile with a dozen other guys who are 9-12 sack players.

Those have value, but they aren't worth a 1st round pick and a top of the market contract, IMO.

htismaqe 10-14-2022 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16529155)
In this league Spags knew that boundary outside corners are replaceable. No further proof of that then Ward. Watson has done a markedly sufficient job in that role. And why would you pay those guys? It’s too hard of a position to play at this point.

The Watson BS DPI penalty proves that. Unless you have a Jalen Ramsey or Patrick Surtain you shouldn’t pay those guys.

Sneed brings a unique skillset. He can play anywhere really. Spags has used him outside, inside, on TE’s, on blitzes and even in the SS role. He’s a lot like Mathieu was here. He’s a Jack of all trades who does nearly everything well.

If there’s a guy we pay big money too it’s probably him.
Jalen Ramsey gets burnt on the regular, too. It's just a hard, hard position to play anymore.

htismaqe 10-14-2022 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16529160)
He hasn't been better than Clark was in Seattle. And he's had a very similar role - 'pin ears, get QB'.

He's closer to 2018 Frank Clark than 2022 Garrett, without question.
Exactly.

Dunerdr 10-14-2022 09:58 AM
Ok so weve decided burns is average, Moore time.

Balto 10-14-2022 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16529169)
Ok so weve decided burns is average, Moore time.
Lets do it!

Panthers get:
Hardman
2022 2nd
2023 2nd

Chiefs get:
Moore

htismaqe 10-14-2022 11:23 AM
Just for O.

https://heavy.com/sports/kansas-city...e-brian-burns/

carcosa 10-14-2022 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16529169)
Ok so weve decided burns is average, Moore time.
Just need 111 more posts of tangentially related conversation and it's a done deal!!!!

O.city 10-14-2022 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16529351)
Bunch of idiots in there :D

htismaqe 10-14-2022 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16529364)
Bunch of idiots in there :D
I figured one of them was you. ROFL

dlphg9 10-14-2022 11:56 AM
No to Burns please and thank you. No to Moore as well. I'd rather have the draft picks and cap savings of having rookie contracts over huge 2nd year contracts. Moore has a $25 mil cap hit next year. Burns isn't worth a 1st round pick and then a Frank Clark contract.

Also, I think this off-season if he comes back and finishes the season like he started you have to offer Willie Gay Jr like $7 mil/yr extension. Just enough to entice him, because if he goes into next year without an extension and improves even more, then he's going to be too expensive.

The Franchise 10-14-2022 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16529364)
Bunch of idiots in there :D
Hardman, Clark and a 2nd and 3rd for Burns and Moore? What a great deal for the Panthers. :rolleyes:

DJ's left nut 10-14-2022 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16529411)
No to Burns please and thank you. No to Moore as well. I'd rather have the draft picks and cap savings of having rookie contracts over huge 2nd year contracts. Moore has a $25 mil cap hit next year. Burns isn't worth a 1st round pick and then a Frank Clark contract.

Also, I think this off-season if he comes back and finishes the season like he started you have to offer Willie Gay Jr like $7 mil/yr extension. Just enough to entice him, because if he goes into next year without an extension and improves even more, then he's going to be too expensive.
He has a $19 million cap hit next year.

The bonuses go on Carolina's cap.

dlphg9 10-14-2022 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16529578)
He has a $19 million cap hit next year.

The bonuses go on Carolina's cap.
Oh ok, still don't like it lol


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