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smithandrew051 03-08-2024 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17433029)
That Taylor deal? The RT who showed up in the playoffs and kept Mahomes clean? That one?

****ing idiots.

I can’t wait for the penalties to go back to normal next year.

A lot of people will have to backtrack.

RedinTexas 03-08-2024 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17433028)
KC offered $27.5M per season last year. Jones turned it down and then pulled a holdout. I assume they are offering him similar money right now, perhaps more than that. But there is good reason to believe he'll sign with someone else for an extra $5M per year.

If he signs somewhere else for more money, I'll be disappointed, but I can understand why he would do that. I may not agree, but it's his decision.

I don't know if you're agreeing with the prior poster or not, but Neil Smith signed with Denver as a **** you to the Chiefs when it was him that caused the whole situation. I don't think Neil Smith and Chris Jones are comparable here.

Basileus777 03-08-2024 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dtrain (Post 17433030)


If this is the market I don't see how Jones gets what he wants.

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-08-2024 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17433019)
Right now, the Chiefs have just under $2 million cap space. They haven't even restructured and or cut anyone to make room for Jones. If we don't see any moves in the next few days, Jones is gone. There is simply too much money tied up in Jawaan False Start Taylor. Omenihu too carries a $10 million cap hit.

Lighten up Francis...

Juwaan was fine after Collinsworth and the shit refs early in the year. He and Smith accounted for less than $25m in salary, probably one of the cheapest pair of tackles in the league. Also, Jones is counting nothing on the cap right now for this year and they need to be compliant on the 13th at 4pm EST. If he signs, it will go on next years then the rule of 51 kicks in. In the mean time, there will be cuts made and restructures if needed. There are no barriers to signing Jones for the new contract year, and/or paying Sneed on the Franchise Tag, although that wouldn't be ideal to pay both.

SHOWTIME 03-08-2024 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17433029)
That Taylor deal? The RT who showed up in the playoffs and kept Mahomes clean? That one?

****ing idiots.

ROFL Yeah, Taylor is much more valuable to this team than Jones...talk about being an idiot. I don't care about one good 4 game streak where he allowed no sacks. I care more about the guy who was the best player on defense for 3 super bowl seasons.

The Franchise 03-08-2024 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17433040)
ROFL Yeah, Taylor is much more valuable to this team than Jones...talk about being an idiot. I don't care about one good 4 game streak where he allowed no sacks. I care more about the guy who was the best player on defense for 3 super bowl seasons.

Anyone want to point where I said that Taylor is more important than Jones?

milkshock 03-08-2024 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 17433036)
If this is the market I don't see how Jones gets what he wants.


75m in guaranteed money though?


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Monticore 03-08-2024 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 17433036)
If this is the market I don't see how Jones gets what he wants.

Big signing bonus and most of it guaranteed, but I can’t see Jones getting 30 aav Now

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-08-2024 05:22 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Justin Madubuike&#39;s reported four-year, $98 million deal makes him the second-highest paid DL in the NFL annually ($24.5M).<br><br>Only Aaron Donald makes more. Chris Jones should surpass that soon.</p>&mdash; Jonas Shaffer (@jonas_shaffer) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonas_shaffer/status/1766237856735932447?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SHOWTIME 03-08-2024 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17433041)
Anyone want to point where I said that Taylor is more important than Jones?


Taylor is not worth his contract at $25 million a year, which is my point. Taylor was one of one of the lowest PFF graded tackles this year. And he's the highest paid RT in terms of AAV.

TEX 03-08-2024 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17433041)
Anyone want to point where I said that Taylor is more important than Jones?

You didn't.

DJ's left nut 03-08-2024 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17433044)
Big signing bonus and most of it guaranteed, but I can’t see Jones getting 30 aav Now

He should NEVER have.

Using Donald as the staking horse is aggravating as hell when DT is one of the most obviously established markets in all of football. There were 3 comparable DTs signed to extensions last offseason and none of them got more than $24 milllion, IIRC. And Madubuike's contract falls right in line with the established market.

There's a single damn outlier in the entire HISTORY of the DT market and it's Aaron Donald. And that's what Jones and his people continue to point to as 'fair'. It's ridiculous.

And it's why Veach needs to make an offer similar to the offer he made last year (something like 3/$82.5 and almost fully guaranteed) and if that's not enough just move on.

I'm tired of this whole thing. The Chiefs have been extremely reasonable here and Chris "I want to play in KC forever...provided they capitulate to my unreasonable demands" Jones and his agents haven't been.

And if he goes out into the market and gets Donald money - fine. B'bye. We absolutely cannot do that so I hope you enjoy Houston.

DJ's left nut 03-08-2024 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17433048)
Taylor is not worth his contract at $25 million a year, which is my point. Taylor was one of one of the lowest PFF graded tackles this year. And he's the highest paid RT in terms of AAV.

Well thank God he didn't get $25 million/season then...

SHOWTIME 03-08-2024 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17433055)
Well thank God he didn't get $25 million/season then...

His cap hit is $25M for the next 3 years. He's getting paid $20 million each year from 2024 to 2026.

The Franchise 03-08-2024 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17433048)
Taylor is not worth his contract at $25 million a year, which is my point. Taylor was one of one of the lowest PFF graded tackles this year. And he's the highest paid RT in terms of AAV.

There’s your issue. Stop looking at PFF as if it knows what it’s trying to show.


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