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Mecca 02-11-2025 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17964490)
Simmons’ comp on NFL.com:



LMAO

Prime DJ Humpries would have made a difference in the Super Bowl...

Pitt Gorilla 02-11-2025 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17964481)
Raw, needs development and is coming off of a major knee injury.

LMAO

Dickerson fell to the Eagles due to a knee injury. THAT is how you get value.

FloridaMan88 02-11-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17964498)
Dickerson fell to the Eagles due to a knee injury. THAT is how you get value.

The Chiefs need a surefire starter on Day 1.

Not a raw project who will likely miss all of the offseason program/OTA’s while recovering from a major knee injury.

Mecca 02-11-2025 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17964502)
The Chiefs need a surefire starter on Day 1.

Not a raw project who will likely miss all of the offseason program/OTA’s while recovering from a major knee injury.

Then you aren't drafting a LT, that's that.

Boxer_Chief 02-11-2025 01:00 PM

Trading McDuffie would hurt but if it helped in getting you Josh Simmons you have to consider it. Use pick 31 and pick 20 something from mcduffie and move into the top 12 for Simmons. Use second round pick on a cb and third round running back.

Mecca 02-11-2025 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boxer_Chief (Post 17964507)
Trading McDuffie would hurt but if it helped in getting you Josh Simmons you have to consider it. Use pick 31 and pick 20 something from mcduffie and move into the top 12 for Simmons. Use second round pick on a cb and third round running back.

I just don't see that, if you can somehow keep Bolton and Reid, if you can find a solid boundary CB on the cheap or in the draft the defense is a top 5 unit...

RunKC 02-11-2025 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17964502)
The Chiefs need a surefire starter on Day 1.

Not a raw project who will likely miss all of the offseason program/OTA’s while recovering from a major knee injury.

Rosenhaus already said the kid would be ready to go by training camp

Pitt Gorilla 02-11-2025 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17964502)
The Chiefs need a surefire starter on Day 1.

Not a raw project who will likely miss all of the offseason program/OTA’s while recovering from a major knee injury.

I understand that, but that's how you keep a roster elite. You take a Jalen Carter when he drops to 10 for "off the field" reasons. You take Dickerson, the premier guard, much later because of a knee injury. You take the best players and continue to keep the cupboards stocked.

Heck, you take a failed first-round OT and make him a guard and exhibit the patience of developing a rugby player into a monster OT. Quick-fixes are great, but roster building is, obviously, much more than that.

Chief Pagan 02-11-2025 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17964396)
At the end of the day it's a bit of an evaluation problem. The Orlando Brown trade was fine for what it was, but I guess they didn't take into account he was going to have ridiculous contract demands.

Those contract demands have left us here because we decided "we can't pay him that" so here we are. Pretty sure when that trade was made they thought Brown would hold down LT for at least 5-7 years.

I’m pretty sure when they traded for OBJ they were desperate because the option for the LT from SF fell through.

No idea how long they thought they might keep him. He wasn’t a great fit and BV did make offers to him.

seamonster 02-11-2025 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17964505)
Then you aren't drafting a LT, that's that.

I would take our best player(s) on defense and stone faced trade them for the chance at a real LT. I don't care at this point. They've done legendary work and earned two superbowls. But at this point you're getting the face of the league blasted. At this point in his career brady was out there getting blown out and embarrassed by the ravens in the post season and playing like shit but with above average left tackle play (and people call him the greatest of all time). Meanwhile mahomes is dragging you to superbowls with full blown aids at left tackle.

Mecca 02-11-2025 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17964535)
I’m pretty sure when they traded for OBJ they were desperate because the option for the LT from SF fell through.

No idea how long they thought they might keep him. He wasn’t a great fit and BV did make offers to him.

When you trade the equivalent of a high 2 for a player after basically declaring this OL must be better, there's no way you plan that as a 2 year fix.

TheGuardian 02-11-2025 01:18 PM

Drafting a LT does not fix these issues and is not the solution.

The solution IF we're going to draft one is to have a vet that can be a plug and play day 1 starter that will keep Pat upright 99% of the time.

htismaqe 02-11-2025 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17964452)
Said many times Staylor, especially back last off season, that I would have retained Smith. He was "good" enough to play and win the Super Bowl. Would have been good enough to start the season also. Would have bought some time for the kidos.

Smith is cooked. He's done. His neck is ****ed. There's a reason nobody signed him.

MahomesMagic 02-11-2025 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 17964537)
I would take our best player(s) on defense and stone faced trade them for the chance at a real LT. I don't care at this point. They've done legendary work and earned two superbowls. But at this point you're getting the face of the league blasted. At this point in his career brady was out there getting blown out and embarrassed by the ravens in the post season and playing like shit but with above average left tackle play (and people call him the greatest of all time). Meanwhile mahomes is dragging you to superbowls with full blown aids at left tackle.

Mahomes got his body beat up all year and then had his head slammed into the turf and was punched in the head by Eagles cheap shot artists.


Enough.

RunKC 02-11-2025 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17964420)
So has everybody else. Without the injury, he's the #1 LT in the draft. He's not going to drop to a range we can get him most likely.

Furthermore, he doesn't fix the LT problem that is the entire premise of this thread. He's not going to start next year.

He will be ready for camp per Rosenhaus. He’s gonna start somewhere.

But I get it. We’d have to trade 64 or 66 to move that high which is tough bc a really good player would be missed out on. A guy like Kaleb Johnson will probably be there for one of those picks and a player like that really helps us build the entire roster.

It would hurt trading that valuable resource but LT has killed us so much. Man I wish Kingsley looked like even an average LT this year.


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