At least he doesn't piss his pants in the pocket. He's not Rodgers but ill have to deal with it

My favorite play is when he took the safety. Oh wait...wrong Smith.

LMAO

LMAO ROFL

And so officially begins the see-saw period with Alex.

When he is efficient and contributes to a win, or the opposition is soft enough, he shuts up his detractors and the supporters come to gloat.

When he is below average and contributes to a loss, or the opposition is hard enough, he shuts up his supporters and his detractors come out for their I-told-you-so's.

Alex Smith is a solid middling QB in the 15-20 range of all QBs who has plenty of strengths to delight his supporters but key weaknesses that keep him from rising to the upper tiers and contributing to playoff wins or lifting the team on his shoulders.

Supporters and detractors will see-saw back and forth all year en-route to a 9-10 win season, missing the playoffs or bowing out in the wild-card round.

Right now, all of you know everything you need to know about Alex. All his cards are on the table. You know exactly what you've got. The arguments will revolve around if that is enough to navigate the playoffs or not. Nothing is going to stop those arguments.

Everything will still come down to...

A) is that worth two 2nd round draft picks?

B) is that the path to the super bowl?

Axl Smiff: leader of men.:rolleyes:

Sweet Daddy Hate: A belligerent asshole

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I'm sorry; did you miss the username on the way in?

OK gotta give you that

I hope you are starting to see that Alex is not fragile but is pretty tough. He is no Chris Chandler. He missed many games with the shoulder injury and during that recovery. It is not like he is injury prone. He can and has taken fierce hits and gotten up, shook it off and kept playing.

2011, a Seahawk took an illegal, cheap shot to the face mask while Alex slid after scrambling for a gain. It wrung him up good and blood was gushing from above his nose. Never slowed him down. He jumped right up and marched down the field for a score.

I hope you guys can see your way to adding this to his "plus" column. He is not fragile.

Cassel was disappointingly tough. Bastard just WOULDN'T DIE.

He's just a soft bitch.

That polamolu, oh **** it I'm too drunk to attempt the spelling, hit was nasty

lol.

You are killing me. You are reminding me of my 1st car -- an AMC Gremlin. The trunk-less wonder. 22 mpg highway with the 232 inline 6 and still couldn't hit 80 mph top speed.

I really tried to blow it up but it just kept running.

Finally dumped it on my sister and bought a 1968 Mustang. The Mustang is officially "the first car I ever owned". The Gremlin is just a bad dream.

Did you watch any of the game Kaep?

Not a single play, but it sounds like Alex was doing what he does best when he is on. Just spread the ball around and keep things moving but still not converting the 3rd & longs & not sure about the red zone.

But preseason isn't about winning, so fat Andy isn't going to tip his hand game planning or anything.

My guess is that Charles will be the #1 receiver on the team this year. I'm convinced the Chiefs will win at least 8 games and not surprised at all with 10 wins. A lot of people think I'm nuts.

It is on NFLN tomorrow morning. I'll watch the 1st half tomorrow. Missed Seahawks Pack too. Missed Rams too.

Lots to watch tomorrow before 49ers Vikes.

It is absolutely maddening.

There are plays that Alex plays and I am just like, you are legally reeruned.

And then he puts together an entire drive like the TD drive, where he is certain, surgical, methodical, and lethal, and I am like omg, he is here.

I fully expect more Jekyll and Hyde from him.

And he finally used his athleticism. Instead of freezing like a bitch in an ice box, and going fetal.

Buttttt.....HE DID FREEZE UP IN THE FIRST QUARTER. LIKE A BITCH

See, this is one of those damned fair arguments that a few of these guys will throw out.

I haven't yet decided, but its good thinking material.

We know exactly what Alex is and he certainly isn't a bad QB. He will just never be top tier and carry a team. Although some people will maintain the hope that Andy can take him to that next step. I can't see it, but it is good for football if that happens, so I hope it does. You just can't have too many quality QBs in football.

Will his headstone read; "Killed By Asshat"?

No, but he prolly will have Alex introduce him at his H.O.F. induction...

Being that is as close as Alex Smith is going to get there himself.

That and getting the ball into Charles hands as much as possible, is actually a positive. Not a negative.

I certainly hope so. I picked him up in the 2nd round of my fantasy draft.

The second ROUND?

How many people were in your draft, 4?

I picked 10th and took him with the 11th after McCoy. Someone actually took Foster in the 1st.

Ohhh, okay. That kinda makes more sense. I have done a couple of drafts just to get ready for my money draft which is tomorrow, and he usually goes top 5......

Smitty pwned the whiners this week.

I wouldn't say that.

He certainly held us at bay with a very timely TD drive, though.

The other 28:40 was enough to make me scream.

As long as he wins, you can scream all you want LMAO

Go ahead and post some of the Smitty highlight gifs from the game for us LMAO

Yes, his whopping one drive of looking like an NFL quarterback sure proved his skeptics wrong! :thumb:

The only thing he did was lead ONE drive.

Yes, it looked good.

He also led 5 shitty ass drives where he looked like Alice Smiff.

Keep dreaming.

I am going to ride Alices ass until he proves me wrong. I hope he does.

That is how the Alex see-saw works. Supporters win one week, detractors the next.

The beat goes on.

2/3 very good preseason games. And consider the defense he was playing in the other one.

Are you going to physically call him and critique his performances?

Don't you mean bitch harmlessly on an Internet message board?

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It's all about the right system for the right player.

Go look back on Steve Young's career. Smith is at the exact same point that Young was when he took over the 49ers and embarked on a path that led to the Hall of Fame. Many people were talking about Young the same way that Smith has been spoke of around here.

I'm not saying that Alex Smith ends up there, but it's all about being in the right place at the right time with the right coach in the right system. Reid has wanted Smith for a while, finally has him and thinks that the team is capable of doing some pretty good things. It's not out of the realm of possibility.

Steve Young LMAO

I already debunked that comparison in the offseason.

looks like the smittys are smitten :LOL:

Sunshine/Dog's Ass.

Smitty look good too LMAO

Nice hat technique.

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Just means Alex is a perfectionist

BWA-HAHAHAHAHAHA

He knows the comparisons are ON.

Alex is just checking down on the ground for his sack where he keeps his hat. :D

But... his hat is already on his head... and who keeps hats in a sack? Like a hat sack? What?

He tried to make a joke, but it wasn't funny.

Go Alex!

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Dat down field accuracy!

WHERE ARE GENO AIR MAILS?

Dane is right; he's not Cassel. Their throwing motions are dissimilar.































The results however are the same.

This is gonna happen all season, isn't it?

Smith could go 20-24, and Clay's gonna serve up some gifs of the 4 incompletes.

The only thing that shocks me about this, is that it took someone 6 months to realize this........

I said this the first week I was here.

If the Chiefs are winning games, "the defense, the running game, the special teams." The Chiefs didn't win WITH ALEX SMITH, THEY WON INSPITE OF HIM.

And when they lose.

"Alex Smiths fault."

"Rocket up ass 42"! Rocket up ass 42"! HUT! HUT!

Typical Clay troll .gif Pick and choose.

OMG! He left a pass high. No NFL QB worth their salt EVER does that! You NEVER see Brady or Manning overshoot a receiver, EVER! EEEEEEEVVVVVEEERRRR!!! /Chicken Little The Sky Is Falling

More importantly, Smith threw the ball slightly too high, but he placed the ball high intentionally because only his receiver could have come up with the catch.

If you have Cassel or Geno there, with 2 defenders in the area, there's a much higher chance of an interception.

Dipshit won't see it that way. He'll try and convince everyone it was just a poorly thrown pass and then ramble on about how a top notch QB cares not about the positioning of the defenders and ALWAYS threads that pass in there regardless. It's what EVERY good QB in the league does, except OUR QB. /Same Old Tired Clayton Bullshit

Come on man. The guy is very limited. Admit it.

Can you make a .gif of this from the snap?

I'll do my best to provide a breakdown, of course.

To be fair, I have no problem with the overthrow. From what I can see on the gif, it looks like Avery will be crushed by Troy if he catches it.

Now, without being privy to what the front/box/coverage looked like as well as the route concepts/alignment for the offense, this play looks like one Alex should have checked down to Charles when he comes out of his 'sneak" route. Really difficult to make an accurate assumption from this gif though.

When have I said anything contrary to his limitations?

When? Have I not said repeatedly that he takes too many sacks. If the play doesn't go as scripted he looks lost. How many times?

I have said many many times that Alex Smiths traits are that he will allow the defense, and running game to win games and his primary focus is not to screw it up.

His biggest asset to the Chiefs is that he will help groom the QBOTF.

Hes a stabilizer right now with a friendly contract. That's all he is.

Where is this coming from that I have slurped the shit out of Alex Smith and claimed he is elite?

Never happened. Never will.

Wouldn't be the first time this week though you have misunderstood something and gotten destroyed on the internet though.....

Good post man. It bugs me that some will be rooting for him to fail.

13-3 2011, whine more doofus ROFL ROFL ROFL

The 2000 Ravens clarried Trent Dilfer to a 12-4 record AND won the super bowl.

Try again.

So now, Alex is =/< Trent Dilfer?

Dilfer never hit 60% of his passes then or since, and his rating that SB season was 76,6. His next passer ratings were in the 70's. Alex? 104.1 and best in the NFL getting the team to 6-2.

Man, I have seen some hate, but **** off, really.

Mac.......Why even bother?

I don't mind Kaepernick nearly as much as I used to. But, they are all that way. They blamed Alex for the offense in 2011, and then blamed the DEFENSE for losing the Super Bowl.

You should have an understanding of how this works. If the 49ers struggle this year, the receivers are going to get the blame. That was not a valid excuse for Alex Smith though, but will be for Kaep.

Or they will blame the defense. Its just the reversed now.

Here is my favorite. Alex Smith went 1/13 on 3rd down in the NFCCG with GARBAGE at receiver. You mention that fact, Alexcuse.

Kaepernick played like crap in the first half of the Super Bowl. "The defense sucked. Aldon Smith, and Justin Smith were hurt, Culliver sucked, Whitner sucked."

See the difference?

Yes, I do.

Just crazy enough that Alex fans would keep track of him on a KC forum, but a clear Alex hater coming on board to follow? ****ing wow.

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Yeah, that always made me laugh. The same guys who come here as Alex haters, will tell any Alex supporter on the 49er forum to go join a Chiefs forum because they don't want to talk about him anymore, and then they will go join the same forum.

Its reerunation at its best.

Go back to your gayass Frisco boards with this bullshit

I'm Just going to quote a post of mine from a few months back to discredit his completion percentage and QB rating. Enjoy.

I just noticed that Smith and Kaep had the exact same number of attempts last season.

In 218 attempt:

Smith: 1,737yds 70.2% 7.97ypa 13td 5ints
Kaep: 1,814yds 62.4% 8.30ypa 10tds 3ints

Im sure this has been posted before multiple times, but their passing production is undoubtedly almost identical. This cannot be argued.

I know people want to shit on smith, but those are damn good numbers.

Smith is the PERFECT tutor for BRAY.

Bray is a big armed risk taker. Smith is Mega efficient. A mix of the two is the perfect QB.

So smith was
#4 in YPA
#3 in Rating
#1 in comp. %

Go Chiefs... weren't you the one singing Cassel's praise after the first training camp? I seem to remember expressing my questions about him feeling Grbac-like.... questioning the fact that he hadn't started a single game at USC and that he was a product of a great system, not a great talent... I had a bad feeling about it and hoped for the best... this time I have a good feeling about Alex Smith, not a great feeling like a Montana or even Green feeling, but still a good feeling... now that you are touting how bad He sucks, I feel even better about him.

Why not include Kaepernick's total production (through the air and on the ground)?

It's not just about passing, it's about total productivity and Kaepernick is superior to Smith in that regard hands down.

Kaepernick had 23 total TD's last year. Smith has not been able to match that in his entire career while playing more games. Kaepernick is dynamic, Smith is limited. No need to cherry pick stats.

This. They truly make me long for the one or two Patriotards we used to have.

I said PASSING production. There was nothing cherry picked about it.

Those are good passing #s from both. Kaep does add another element.
And Ive been hearing about how this running dynamic gives guys like kaep such an edge, yet no QB who fits that description has won a SB.
They always get beat in the POs and SBs by top notch pocket passers.
So dont get so wet over kaep just yet.


FTR I am not saying Smith is one of those guys. Just that he is better than people give him credit for, and a perfect vet for Bray to learn from.

More butt ****ing per sq. mile than anywhere in the country.

LMAO

I see you acknowledge the TRUE power of the QB position now...