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Rasputin 08-04-2017 09:49 AM

MVP with coffin corner punt. Indevidual drill

Shag 08-04-2017 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12990880)
I guarantee Mahomes won't have the record whenever he starts through his first 4 seasons that Smith has. Smitty is a proven winner. He's won in San Fran and has won in KC. He was a Kyle Williams fumble away from a super bowl. He forced that game into overtime. I don't care if you hate Smitty or not but he always plays his best in the playoffs. It's not his fault Bell ran for 178 yards on the Chiefs last playoff game.

ROFL Is it also not his fault the Chiefs only scored 16 points? And that they lost to a team in the playoffs that didn't score a TD? Or that he only threw for 172yds? Or this?

https://i.redd.it/m1nxd4dxd6ay.gif

Rasputin 08-04-2017 09:59 AM

#4 muffed punt. MVP is is looking midseason form

Rasputin 08-04-2017 09:59 AM

#4 caught that one.

RunKC 08-04-2017 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12991143)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Mahomes has one weakness right now, it&#39;s identifying zone coverages. Lot of his PBU &amp; picks come from LB/S he doesn&#39;t pick up yet.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/893493251826757632">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is one of the hardest parts about being QB. Identifying blitzes and coverages from the defense can be very difficult.

It's the reason why Carr has sucked against us. We always confuse him.

penbrook 08-04-2017 10:11 AM

Smith actually trusts Hill with the deep ball. Great sign. Also Harris hasn't dropped a pass yet this camp. He wants to make the team

Terez A. Paylor @TerezPaylor
Demetrius Harris is quietly having a great camp. Haven't seen him drop a pass. It's like he turned off the "drops open passes" Madden trait.
8:19 AM · Aug 4, 2017

penbrook 08-04-2017 10:32 AM

Seantavious Jones will make the team. When you're making plays against Peters you are doing something right

saphojunkie 08-04-2017 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prhom (Post 12991153)
I'm pretty certain I've seen his name mentioned making a few plays, but maybe that's wishful thinking. I thought he had been practicing before today.

Kelce has 100% practiced, as I saw him catch a long pass down the right sideline from Alex.

NJChiefsFan 08-04-2017 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991204)
Smith actually trusts Hill with the deep ball. Great sign. Also Harris hasn't dropped a pass yet this camp. He wants to make the team

Terez A. Paylor @TerezPaylor
Demetrius Harris is quietly having a great camp. Haven't seen him drop a pass. It's like he turned off the "drops open passes" Madden trait.
8:19 AM · Aug 4, 2017

In one of the most important Chiefs games of the last 25 years last year that simply was not true. I'm gonna need game evidence before I believe a drop of that.

prhom 08-04-2017 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991227)
Seantavious Jones will make the team. When you're making plays against Peters you are doing something right

Could this mean the end of Albert Wilson as a Chief?!

saphojunkie 08-04-2017 10:44 AM

The Chiefs trading Alex Smith in training camp this year might be the greatest thing I'd ever seen.

Rasputin 08-04-2017 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prhom (Post 12991245)
Could this mean the end of Albert Wilson as a Chief?!

Albert Wilson made a great catch with tight coverage. I thought he made nice plays today. Not bad at all.

Rasputin 08-04-2017 10:54 AM

This was definitely fun and worth the trip going do this every year.

Afraid it's going rain tomorrow and go indoors. So I may just go to KC for some BBQ and then probably go home.

prhom 08-04-2017 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12991270)
Albert Wilson made a great catch with tight coverage. I thought he made nice plays today. Not bad at all.

He's made some nice plays for us during his time here but we should have been able to find someone who has better hands and determination by now.

Hammock Parties 08-04-2017 11:10 AM

65 degree weather for practice tomorrow. Can't wait.

LoneWolf 08-04-2017 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12991299)
65 degree weather for practice tomorrow. Can't wait.

Bring a rain coat.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-04-2017 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12991200)
This is one of the hardest parts about being QB. Identifying blitzes and coverages from the defense can be very difficult.

It's the reason why Carr has sucked against us. We always confuse him.

As is to be expected when jumping from college to the NFL. It's the exact reason why Mahomes needs to sit right now and learn. We'll let the kid see more and more each day on the scout team against a top 5 defense.

Hammock Parties 08-04-2017 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12991304)
Bring a rain coat.

The forecast looks like the rain won't start until 10 so I think it should be OK.

Rasputin 08-04-2017 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12991299)
65 degree weather for practice tomorrow. Can't wait.

Is it going rain?

LoneWolf 08-04-2017 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12991306)
The forecast looks like the rain won't start until 10 so I think it should be OK.

I hope you're right. Can you give us an update on how Mahomes is looking? I haven't seen many reports on his play so far. :)

RunKC 08-04-2017 11:27 AM

Charc West being in the tent injured does not bode well for him. Spiller is having a great camp

Rasputin 08-04-2017 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12991317)
I hope you're right. Can you give us an update on how Mahomes is looking? I haven't seen many reports on his play so far. :)

His velocity on throws are impressive.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-04-2017 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12991323)
Charc West being in the tent injured does not bode well for him. Spiller is having a great camp

I'd keep all 4 if Spiller looks good.

raybec 4 08-04-2017 11:35 AM

Montori Hughes got cut today, our D line is doomed.

ptlyon 08-04-2017 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12991239)
In one of the most important Chiefs games of the last 25 years last year that simply was not true. I'm gonna need game evidence before I believe a drop of that.

I think what penbrook meant was that Smith trusts Hill to go balls deep. Right penbrook?

Rasputin 08-04-2017 11:39 AM

I'd nickname Tyreek The Flash. He will make Super Hero plays.

Marcellus 08-04-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12990874)
If Smitty wins a super bowl he's coming back

LMAO

No shit? Who is going to be pissed if they keep Smith for another year if KC wins the SB?

:facepalm:

Capt Obvious.

RunKC 08-04-2017 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12991329)
I'd keep all 4 if Spiller looks good.

I agree. Would love to see Tyreek and Spiller in the backfield in specialized plays. Maybe run some pistol.

2 sub 4.3 guys

SAUTO 08-04-2017 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12990681)
It would be absolutely ****ing stupid for the Chiefs trade Smith this season.

Not only has Rothlisberger been injured and on the verge of retiring, Brady is 40 years old. Brady missed 4 games last year. He didn't play 19, he played 15.

That's HUGE.

He was suspended i thought. I wouldn't count on that happening again

penbrook 08-04-2017 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12991358)
LMAO

No shit? Who is going to be pissed if they keep Smith for another year if KC wins the SB?

:facepalm:

Capt Obvious.

Most of CP wants Smitty gone regardless if he wins the super bowl or not

Marcellus 08-04-2017 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991365)
Most of CP wants Smitty gone regardless if he wins the super bowl or not

Well the thing is, we will never have to worry about having that debate.

RealSNR 08-04-2017 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12991394)
Well the thing is, we will never have to worry about having that debate.

You don't think Smith's ass is gone next year if Mahomes is ready? Regardless of the outcome of the season?

RealSNR 08-04-2017 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12991008)
Look who's working on sideline...

New game:

Spot the hilarious red penis in the photo

ptlyon 08-04-2017 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12991421)
You don't think Smith's ass is gone next year if Mahomes is ready? Regardless of the outcome of the season?

Smith winning the SB was his point

NJChiefsFan 08-04-2017 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991365)
Most of CP wants Smitty gone regardless if he wins the super bowl or not

In that hypothetical world I'm all for giving him a sendoff season in 2018.

Speaking of hypothetical situations I don't think the Chiefs trading Smith right now is good short-term for Mahmoes or KC. I would love that 1st round pick back right away but I think making Mahomes earn it is the right thing for the franchise and for him. Less pressure if he earns it vs. being handed it.

Now in a hypothetical world I think there certainly is a point where I trade Smith right now, but I don't think it's realistic that we would get an offer that good. A 1st wouldn't do it in my mind. Now next year that would certainly be enough. Dane pointed out that we could have an even better market for Smith next year.

A little food for thought for the guys that want Smith to fail. It's best for the franchise that Smith stays as is. Gives the roster a chance to play in important games this year while keeping his trade value up. If the FO is as smart as we think and Mahomes progresses, we shouldn't need to see a Smith failure to make a change in 2018.

Sassy Squatch 08-04-2017 12:34 PM

So is there actually talk of us trading Smith for a 1st rounder or is that just cooler talk?

ptlyon 08-04-2017 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 12991440)
So is there actually talk of us trading Smith for a 1st rounder or is that just cooler talk?

Cooler talk. Here, have a beer. Don't cost nuttin.

penbrook 08-04-2017 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 12991440)
So is there actually talk of us trading Smith for a 1st rounder or is that just cooler talk?

It's coder talk. No one outside of CP is saying anything about trading Alex Smith

Buckweath 08-04-2017 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 12991440)
So is there actually talk of us trading Smith for a 1st rounder or is that just cooler talk?

Fans love rumors but let's be real here, there is absolutely no chance that Smith gets traded and I'd say so even if Mahomes looks like Russell Wilson out there in preseason.

penbrook 08-04-2017 12:59 PM

Looks like it may be Cutler to the Dolphins

Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
New. Miami Dolphins have already reached out to Jay Cutler

BossChief 08-04-2017 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991445)
It's coder talk. No one outside of CP is saying anything about trading Alex Smith

Wrong

JakeF 08-04-2017 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991062)
Is someone upset that there boy Mahomes threw a pick?

I guess it's a board rule if you post anything negative about Mahomes you have to post 2 negative things about Smith.

penbrook 08-04-2017 01:13 PM

This obsession over Mahomes is ridiculous. Yes he has potential but wait till he plays a game first before people say he's better than Len Dawson. Right now he is the #3 QB. Smith is by far the best QB on the roster and honestly it's not even close. People need to calm down

JakeF 08-04-2017 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991470)
This obsession over Mahomes is ridiculous. Yes he has potential but wait till he plays a game first before people say he's better than Len Dawson. Right now he is the #3 QB. Smith is by far the best QB on the roster and honestly it's not even close. People need to calm down

It's triple fold: Hatred of Smith, excitement about the first 1st rd QB since '83 and passion about the upside about Mahomes' natural ability.

RunKC 08-04-2017 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991470)
This obsession over Mahomes is ridiculous. Yes he has potential but wait till he plays a game first before people say he's better than Len Dawson. Right now he is the #3 QB. Smith is by far the best QB on the roster and honestly it's not even close. People need to calm down

Until Alex beats a franchise QB in January as a Chief, Alex fans need to shut the hell up about making a SB with him.

Dayze 08-04-2017 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 12991483)
It's triple fold: Hatred of Smith, excitement about the first QB we drafted in the first round since '83 and passion about the upside about Mahomes' nature ability.

https://www.familyeducation.com/site...?itok=4a7t_x8d

RealSNR 08-04-2017 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 12991489)

I picture Alex Smith as the Man Vs. Wild guy, except it isn't more than 5 minutes into the adventure and he goes, "Welp, I need water to survive! Time to start drinking my own urine!" as there's a loud rushing mountain stream like 20 feet away in plain sight

RunKC 08-04-2017 01:34 PM

If Mahomes looks awesome in preseason and the Dolphins offer a first, you take it. We aren't winning a SB with Alex and the 1st would be more valuable.

Dayze 08-04-2017 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12991505)
I picture Alex Smith as the Man Vs. Wild guy, except it isn't more than 5 minutes into the adventure and he goes, "Welp, I need water to survive! Time to start drinking my own urine!" as there's a loud rushing mountain stream like 20 feet away in plain sight

LMAO LMAO LMAO

pugsnotdrugs19 08-04-2017 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991470)
This obsession over Mahomes is ridiculous. Yes he has potential but wait till he plays a game first before people say he's better than Len Dawson. Right now he is the #3 QB. Smith is by far the best QB on the roster and honestly it's not even close. People need to calm down

Who said he was better than Len Dawson? Throwing shit at the wall again? Ah I see.

penbrook 08-04-2017 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12991467)
Wrong

Please show me where they're saying rumors of smith getting traded. Only CP is saying that

JakeF 08-04-2017 01:50 PM

No obvious errors for Patrick Mahomes II in latest Chiefs practice
2:00 PM CT Adam Teicher ESPN Staff Writer

ST. JOSEPH, Mo. -- Kansas City Chiefs rookie quarterback Patrick Mahomes II bounced back Friday. A day after throwing an interception in his first competitive practice, Mahomes had no such obvious errors as he completed 10 of 14 passes in full team drills and 8 of 11 in 7-on-7 drills.

Wow moment: Mahomes didn’t have one, though he did fire a touchdown pass to tight end Gavin Escobar. He also was less inclined to force the ball into coverage, as he had been doing at times earlier in camp.

Whoa moment: Mahomes again underestimated the playmaking ability of linebacker Reshard Cliett. Cliett covered a lot of ground to break up a pass during a 7-on-7 drill. Cliett did the same thing against Mahomes in offseason practice and that play resulted in an interception.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-04-2017 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991512)
Please show me where they're saying rumors of smith getting traded. Only CP is saying that

It was up there in the tweets that Miami has offered a 2018 2nd and a conditional for Smith,

ottawa_chiefs_fan 08-04-2017 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12991394)
Well the thing is, we will never have to worry about having that debate.

why do you even watch if you give up before the first pre-season game? Being a fan like that just totally escapes me....why even bother?

DaneMcCloud 08-04-2017 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12991544)
It was up there in the tweets that Miami has offered a 2018 2nd and a conditional for Smith,

That was a poll by a local reporter asking if the Chiefs should trade Smith IF Miami offered a 2nd and a 5th.

It's not an actual thing.

Furthermore, Gase and Smith don't seem like a good match.

sedated 08-04-2017 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12991547)
That was a poll by a local reporter asking if the Chiefs should trade Smith IF Miami offered a 2nd and a 5th.

It's not an actual thing.

I skimmed something on twitter so it must be fact.

Bewbies 08-04-2017 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 12991552)
I skimmed something on twitter so it must be fact.

When you search 'Alex Smith' the first result is 'Alex Smith Dolphins' :D

Now please excuse me. I don't want to rush Mahomes, but the thought of trading Smith has given me wood.

Reerun_KC 08-04-2017 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 12991560)
When you search 'Alex Smith' the first result is 'Alex Smith Dolphins' :D

Now please excuse me. I don't want to rush Mahomes, but the thought of trading Smith has given me wood.

You should consult a Dr if wood becomes long term woodage.

Red Dawg 08-04-2017 02:28 PM

Mahomes will grow to be a bad ass.

DaneMcCloud 08-04-2017 02:29 PM

Smith is a bad fit for Gase's offense.

Osweiler to Miami makes much more sense than Alex Smith.

JakeF 08-04-2017 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 12991565)
Mahomes will grow to be a bad ass.

Good chance, as long as we don't screw it up.

RealSNR 08-04-2017 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12991544)
It was up there in the tweets that Miami has offered a 2018 2nd and a conditional for Smith,

No deal. They can pay 2 2nds just like we had to ****ing do.

Discuss Thrower 08-04-2017 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12991573)
No deal. They can pay 2 2nds just like we had to ****ing do.

Sam Bradford trade tho..

Bewbies 08-04-2017 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12991562)
You should consult a Dr if wood becomes long term woodage.

I'll be in the 4 hour range when the rumors become more official. :eek:

penbrook 08-04-2017 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12991544)
It was up there in the tweets that Miami has offered a 2018 2nd and a conditional for Smith,

No it wasn't!! It was a poll. I didn't know polls were facts now. Was this the same pol that said Hillary Clinton would be president?

Bewbies 08-04-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991580)
No it wasn't!! It was a poll. I didn't know polls were facts now. Was this the same pol that said Hillary Clinton would be president?

triggered.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wfRmc27lS88" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Hammock Parties 08-04-2017 02:51 PM

LMAO

Best election ever.

penbrook 08-04-2017 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 12991586)
triggered.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wfRmc27lS88" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

ROFL

Coogs 08-04-2017 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991445)
It's coder talk. No one outside of CP is saying anything about trading Alex Smith

I heard a discussion on 610 about this topic a couple of hours ago, so it is not just here.

Marcellus 08-04-2017 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottawa_chiefs_fan (Post 12991545)
why do you even watch if you give up before the first pre-season game? Being a fan like that just totally escapes me....why even bother?

I spent $400+ and drove 3 hours in freezing rain to watch Smith shit his pants against the Steelers in the playoffs.

Kiss my ass.

Hammock Parties 08-04-2017 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12991612)
I spent $400+ and drove 3 hours in freezing rain to watch Smith shit his pants against the Steelers in the playoffs.

Kiss my ass.

Nothing like a Chiefs fan scorned.

It warms the cockles of my black heart.

Pablo 08-04-2017 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12991612)
I spent $400+ and drove 3 hours in freezing rain to watch Smith shit his pants against the Steelers in the playoffs.

Kiss my ass.

Poor bastard. That was not a nice day trip up to KC. I do remember feeling sorry for all the ****ers out there in the stands watching six field goals beat us. Just another day in the life of a Chiefs fan.

penbrook 08-04-2017 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 12991619)
Poor bastard. That was not a nice day trip up to KC. I do remember feeling sorry for all the ****ers out there in the stands watching six field goals beat us. Just another day in the life of a Chiefs fan.

If only we had a run D and didn't allow Bell to have 178 yards rushing things would be different.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-04-2017 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991627)
If only we had a run D and didn't allow Bell to have 178 yards rushing things would be different.

If only we had a QB who could throw to wide open WRs, several times. You can't seriously be this f**king stupid?

penbrook 08-04-2017 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12991632)
If only we had a QB who could throw to wide open WRs, several times. You can't seriously be this f**king stupid?

You can't put all the blame of Smitty

pugsnotdrugs19 08-04-2017 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991633)
You can't put all the blame of Smitty

You can't put all the blame on the run defense when they didn't even allow a touchdown. NOT A DAMN TOUCHDOWN.

penbrook 08-04-2017 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12991636)
You can't put all the blame on the run defense when they didn't even allow a touchdown. NOT A DAMN TOUCHDOWN.

I'm not putting all the blame on the run D or Smitty. But you can't tell me that the Run D wasn't one of the reasons why we lost

Coogs 08-04-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991627)
If only we had a run D and didn't allow Bell to have 178 yards rushing things would be different.

If only the punt returner hadn't fumbled twice, the 49ers would have beat the G-men. I used to believe that too!

I now understand what the 1 for 13 on third down side of the arguement was saying. It is who Alex is.

BigCatDaddy 08-04-2017 03:24 PM

Sounds like a Flynn/Wilson situation coming up.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-04-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12991641)
I'm not putting all the blame on the run D or Smitty. But you can't tell me that the Run D wasn't one of the reasons why we lost

Exact quote from your post just minutes ago:

Quote:

If only we had a run D and didn't allow Bell to have 178 yards rushing things would be different.
Not a single mention of Alex missing multiple wide open receivers throughout that game, even though that is what all of the analysts point to as the primary reason for the loss (Chris Simms, Baldinger, etc.)


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