Nah. We failed to execute on offense even in the early game.

THIS

It wasn't ALL on the refs, and it wasn't ALL on the line

But they both have a 50% share of it

say theoretically we have 10-11 mill to spend on a free agent. Where do you start and who do you like?

I’d sign a couple pass rushers. Watt + Charlton, Miller + Charlton, something to that effect.

Draft young talent for the offense primarily just looking at the depth of OL, WR in this class.

i thought that at first too. But looking back, that should have been a 7-6 game at halftime.

Who knows how we come out in the second half only trailing by one instead of 15.

We didn't play well but the refs ensured that we weren't going to ever have a chance.

I actually tend to agree.

There were a solid 3-4 really tough calls in that 2nd quarter to where I started to feel like we had very slim odds.

However, I try not to think or talk about it anymore because we don’t get a re-do. Hopefully we get right back there and as much as I think I’d want it to be against Brady, maybe that wouldn’t be a good thing reflecting back on the penalties.

Based on what? The bullshit holding penalty when we intercepted the ball still should've only led to 3 points but Hardman was a ****ing dumbass and lined up way the **** offsides on the FG attempt. The schadenfreude of the last drive before half was as much on Chiefs dumb****ery as it was on the refs. There shouldn't have even been a drive but Reid begged them to with the timeouts, the Evans PI was on Breeland being a total dumbass and letting Evans get out in front of him despite every one in the world knowing what the Buccaneers were doing, and the Mathieu PI would've been illegal contact at the very least.

Good news: James Palmer said he’s heard around the league that due to the cap situation a lot of players are going to try to go on one year deals to winners and try to make a super team.

Bad news: he said he’s heard a lot of players want to play....in Tampa Bay.

Florio reported yesterday that the owners are looking to double the price of their Broadcast Rights fees, which would put them somewhere around $18 billion per year.

If that happens, I'm pretty sure that the NFL won't adhere to the reported $181 million floor because with that much new money, they can increase the cap and spread the 2020 losses over a few seasons, making it far less painful.

Seems like everybody except Disney is going to acquiesce without much of a fight as well.

Jesus H. Christ. Everybody down here acts like they’re gonna win 10 more with this NBA rent-a-team. And now they ****ing might.

**** it. Give us a healthy OL and we’ll whip their ass next year and every year thereafter.

Tampa Bay has several important free agents of their own.

They can’t sign everybody.

And I’m sure that nobody wants to go to KC now!

Exactly!

Who is your week one starter at LT?

Of course they do. What better way to ensure a ring than to team up with Brady and his ref friends?

**** the NFL for continuing to prop up this piece of shit.

Man I respect you but really? How in the hell can you say that every free agent wants to bounce to Tampa Bay? Not feeling it. If this team revamps the OLINE we will be headed back to the promise land again. We lost SB 55 because of the refs and our depleted OLINE. Do not throw the towel in now - we have an incredible team starting with the offense and the D will only get better IMHO.

I was being sarcastic.

No state taxes...

Then please forgive me - no disrespect

they still pay taxes on their away games.

A capable LT. Doesn't have to be all pro. Just healthy and capable. Otherwise we go into the draft at a big disadvantage.

They’re gonna have to hurry this up then right? FA starts in just over 3 weeks so that seems like it won’t get done unfortunately.

If you are confident in the negotiations, then you could still flatten the cap hit. I don't think you have to have that deal entirely done.

I'm not bringing Charlton back.

Quite frankly, I wouldn't bring any of those broke ****ers back - Taco, Okafor, Watkins, they can all go.

I’d bring him back on a vet minimum deal and still draft one. Plus I would sign Okwara in FA.

A rotation of Clark, Okwara, Tryon, Taco and Danna would be pretty good.

Can we even afford that guy? I’d love to have him but damn it seems like he might be one of the guys that gets a nice deal somewhere

I don’t think he’s getting a top deal out there. The cap is down and he hasn’t lit it up every year. I’d offer him a 3 year deal with a lower cap hit in his first year and then we won’t have to worry about it when Clark is gone.

I'm actually surprised by this, i normally agree with you, but come on. Taco has no quality history other than the 2-3 games he started to look decent. Vet minish prove it deal, he knows the system, no downside unless they count solely on him.

Look at it this way. The Chiefs can get creative this year with the cap knowing that it’s probably going to go up in a couple of years with the new deals.

Dude hasn't been healthy for more than 11 games since his rookie seasonl

16 games, 11 games, 10 games, and then 7 games.

He's worth nothing.

That's the thing, it doesn't really matter to us if the league decides to borrow from future seasons to raise the cap now, because we have the long term deals to do it ourselves.

It’s time for us to attack DE in the draft. If they don’t get one in the first rd then they need to draft a measurables/speed player in the mid rds even if they get someone in FA.

I don’t consider Danna to be an example. He’s a nice rotational player but I want a physical freak with upside out there.

Yep.

Physical freaks with upside at DE go in the top 12 picks. Good luck getting one of those dudes at 31

You mean, like KPass?

Phillips and Oweh will be in our range and they both fit the description.

If they end up really fitting what he's looking for, I'm skeptical they're around at 31.

I'd take Phillips, but I'm guessing he ends up in the top 20.

Oweh won't make it that far down if he actually delivers at whatever equivalent the NFL has of the combine this year.

Well, he did say in the mid rounds.

KPass gets a lot of snaps, it's just that he was a 2nd rounder. If he would have been a 4th rounder, that pick would look a lot better.

Sounds like it's just going to be pro days and individual workouts at this point.

Who is the Montez Sweat of this draft? That’s the guy I wanted before we traded for Clark...and Sweat was a beast last year and had full blown elite measurables at the SC that fell to 26.

Oweh. His unofficial numbers are almost identical except that ridiculous 4.33 40.

It's not just about the measurables, they need to have some production in college as well. Of course, Sweat did.

The reason Sweat fell was because of his heart condition.

If I had to guess, this year's version is Jaelen Phillips.

Can’t be true. I was told in the draft section that Oweh isn’t even a 1st rounder because of the lack of production in 2020.

;)

If he’s not a Chief, I really hope he gets picked before the Browns.

Garrett and Phillips would be an unreal duo.

Sweat had the college production to match his measurables. Oweh really didn't.

Not saying I don't like Oweh as a prospect, just saying there's not a lot of similarities with Sweat outside of the athleticism.

No. Kpass was 289 lbs and 6’7”. He was never a fit for DE. He was always a better fit at DT

Imagine trading 2 1st rounders for a safety only to turnaround and trade your franchise QB for 3.

Wtf?

Pest wants a guy in FA who was undrafted who had high potential athleticism that was realized. Somehow a guy who had 9 sacks his last year of college with these measurables went undrafted:

6’4”
263 lbs
34+ inch arms
4.90 40
7.38 3 cone
23 bench reps

Happens more often than people think

Holy crap! He will get noticed if he runs a 4.33 at the combine or pro-day.

I would try and sign him for a minimum $990,000 deal. If another team offers more, then goodbye.

Taco Charlton – He is still only 26 years old.
2017 – Played 16 games with Dallas Cowboys, 399 snaps, 19 tackles, 11 QB hurries, 3 sacks
2018 – Played 11 games with Dallas Cowboys, 401 snaps, 27 tackles, 4 QB hurries, 1 sack. Shoulder Labrum tear, missed 5 games. He also had off season ankle surgery.
2019 – Cowboys released 2 games into season after not playing. Played 10 games Miami Dolphins, 396 snaps, 21 tackles, 1 FF, 5 sacks. Ankle sprain missed 1 game. Elbow sprain missed 1 game. Ankle sprain missed 2 games.
2020 – Played 7 games for Chiefs, 90 snaps, 7 tackles, 2 sacks. Ankle fracture and tore LCL. Missed 9 regular season plus post season games.

Most of the injuries have been the ankle. Sign him and invest in lots of tape.

I'd also try and keep, (dependent on if they can sign them to club friendly deals) -

Daniel Sorensen - Spagnuolo, Madison, and Merritt know better how to use Daniel Sorensen in defense. I think Sorensen has a bad reputation from past years where Bob tried to have him cover fast receivers.
2020 – 91 tackles, 3 INTs, 5 PDs, 2 FF.

Damien Wilson 81 tackles in 2019 and 73 tackles in 2020. Hopefully we have a LB that comes along and is better, but I we don't want to be worse.

Mike Remmers - Not as a starter but as a backup that can fill in when it is needed.

I'd also like to keep WR Byron Pringle, OL Andrew Wylie, CB Charvarius Ward, and RB Darrel Williams. They are all on their RFA year. Would prefer a club friendly deal, but Ward and maybe Wylie will probably get paid elsewhere if you don't use the RFA designation on them.

Also if Austin Reiter isn't getting much interest, might try and bring him back on a club friendly deal.

Wylie can go

Yeah, but only on their game checks, a lot of free agents get big signing bonuses which are not subject to the away game taxes. When Ndamukong signed with Tampa last year, it was for $8 million, $5 was signing bonus, which only leaves $3 million for game checks. Half of that, $1.5 million, is the only amount of Suh’s $8 million contract which is subject to away game state taxes.

Wylie can GTFO. He single handed LT cost us the super bowl. Well him and Remmers were fighting it out for who could be worse

Should Jayon Brown be a target as a coverage linebacker? I think Veach should try and spread the money around in key areas instead of going big on one guy.

For example.

Brown
Okung
Clowney
Reed
Samuels
Dunbar

Those are guys who shouldn't break the bank and are veteran guys who could all contribute from day one. You could chop and change names of course but wouldn't that help us more than signing JJ Watt and Allen Robinson to big deals? That's what I'm pondering over right now

The only “huge” FA deal that makes sense to me is if there’s interest with Trent Williams.

Rest of deals should either be midsized value adds (like Curtis Samuel, maybe Romeo Okwara or Carl Lawson) or ones that take advantage of the market.

From Matt Miller’s scouting notebook:

Gotta agree here. But good news is that this appears to be a pretty good FA class for pass rushers.

Lot of great options for us to get someone then take a project later in the draft.

Yeah, it kind of bangs the drum for waiting and taking a project type in round 4 or 5 versus spending high value picks on them. Especially since teams are going to be trying to copycat Tampa.

I know nothing of the talent available, but unless they feel really confident in a player in the first I agree waiting may be best. After using high picks on DL projects the past 3 years like Kpass, Speaks, and Saunders I’m a little skeptical on their evaluation there. Nnadi is clearly the best of the bunch but not exactly a world beater. Danna and Wharton were two bright spots of 2020, thankfully Veach was able to scout them where he did.

We need that presence opposite Clark, just skeptical of actually finding one that isn’t a bonafide sure fire prospect.

Man, I'd love to add Watt and Lawson. Work on the OL and offense in the draft early.

I think that would make the DL pretty interesting.

One name I haven't really seen that we would probably have legit interest in is Haason Reddick.

In Week 14 against the New York Giants, Reddick recorded five sacks and 3 forced fumbles during the 26–7 win. It was an Arizona Cardinals franchise record

This is before cuts too. I know not all these guys will make it to the market but goddmamn look at all these options. This is one of the better FA’s I’ve seen with a position

JJ Watt
Von Miller
Melvin Ingram
Carl Lawson
Matt Judon
Shaq Barrett
Olivier Vernon *injured
Bud Dupree
Leonard Floyd
Yannick Ngakoue
Justin Houston
Ryan Kerrigan
Romeo Okwara
Jadeveon Clowney

Nnadi isn't supposed to be a world beater, he's a hole plugger. He's not ever going to be Chris Jones.

KPass and Speaks are the two major blunders. Saunders had injury problems, too early to tell.

If Brown is cheap, sure. Clowney and Samuels, at least, won't be cheap, so not sure why they're on the list.

Okwara or Lawson are good with me.

Yep, might not be a bad idea...

I’d be down for this too if he took a fair deal. Only 30 and still playing well

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Clowney should be super cheap

Sneed
Ward
Fenton
Baker
Keyes

I’m not sure spending $ on another corner would be wise.

He's going to hold out for his. There's definitely going to be better options, especially if you want a pass rush.

He held out last year and got a lower dollar type deal.

He had zero sacks last year and went on IR in November with a torn meniscus.

It’s a big time edge rusher FA.

He’s not going to get another big payday until he shows the ability to warrant a big deal.

How the **** does KPass even count?

Dorsey and Sutton have nothing to do with Veach and Spags.

Saunders had an injury and got lost in the rotation because Wharton was a stud UDFA. How exactly is that a knock on Veach and the defensive staff?

Nnadi is a run stuffing NT. He’s great for what he’s asked to do.

Danna was an excellent late round find.

Let’s not forget how good they’ve been at finding guys in the bargain bin like Ogbah and Taco.

You’re “a little skeptical of their evaluation there” because you’re an idiot that doesn’t have a clue.

I’d keep my eye out for Melvin Ingram and Ryan Kerrigan. Both these guys heading into camp at 32. They aren’t getting huge deals anymore.

Both would be great gets IMO and wouldn’t cost a ton

The whole Speaks situation is crazy. Even out of position and overweight, he flashed some ability as a rookie and dropped weight and looked fit before getting cut and then nobody even gave him a shot in another system.

Did I miss something there? Did he have something off the field happen?

It’s odd that nobody picked him up.

He signed for 1 year and $13M. That's not "lower dollar".

OPL help big time.

And his value took a huge nosedive since then...

I'd stick with Breeland assuming the price is the same.

He's a known in this defense.