Mahomes is very good at avoiding sacks when pressured. Hes such a quick dude when it comes down to it even if he isn't fast. And his ability to change arm angles helps. Perhaps the Eagles amassed as many sacks as they did despite not best ever pressures was due to the avg qbs they faced.

Cuz they aint never seen someone like #15 before.

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:hmmm:

I'm not sure it's a Hurts thing. When healthy this year, he has thrown way better (accuracy and strength) than I ever thought he could. I was one of the many Hurts doubters coming into this season. Based on last season, I just didn't think he'd be able to make that big of an improvement on accuracy, and just as importantly to me, on being able to see the field and get past his first read. He took monumental steps in both of those this year. Unfortunately I think the injury will keep him from showing what he can actually do this game.

With regards to Smith, or even Brown, they will have games where they just seem to have an underwhelming stat line if you just look at box scores. But that has typically (not always) been because they had a lead and began running the ball more. It's also why their ypc is lower than it should be. Too many games where by the last quarter they were running alot and the defenses knew they were running so they were stacking the box.

Obviously as an Eagles fan I could wish that Smith was a bit taller (though he's not short) and a bit thicker, but the man can absolutely jump something crazy. The Eagles haven't had many receivers over the years that were true jump ball guys. Both Brown and Smith can fill that role, which has led to alot of success this year.

Yup. Townsend is going to make them pay if they underestimate him.

It’s a tarp!

This is a huge reason why KC fans feel confident in this game. If he was 100% healthy this would be a problem. I get Mahomes isn't 100% either, but it's to his ankle. An injury to a QBs throwing arm is really tough to overcome.

It's pretty interesting how both Samuel and Aiyuk have said pretty glaring things about the Eagles defense being trash and them having no QB is why they lost.

Comments like..."We were going to attack their DBs, all game long."

"They're quick to trigger on certain stuff that they see on film so we had stuff out of what we knew they'll bite off."

"They see the stem of a route and try to guess it."

Stuff like that makes me think Mahomes is gonna have a huge day.

If this is true then Andy will feast...both in-game and post-game.

It brings me back to that 2020 game vs the Ravens when Reid absolutely obliterated Marcus Peters.

:arrow::arrow::arrow::arrow::arrow:IN SPAG'S WE TRUST!:arrow::arrow::arrow::arrow::arrow:

Those Kurt Warner breakdowns are fantastic if you haven't watched them yet.

Seems like the Eagles struggle with crossers and are a bit more of a mess when playing man. And you can see them biting hard and selling out on routes, which is a double edged sword for them. Doing so allows them to ballhawk, but it also gets them burned and can leave dudes running wide open.

Kurt also broke down our defense and how we're vulnerable in the seams, but also points out the Eagles don't really like attacking the middle of the field.

I'll be fairly comfortable having Sneed follow brown and McDuffie focus on Smith

I worry a bit about Watson or Williams trying to run with him.

If he loses, he falls into that category of players that lost their first Super Bowl. The vast majority of QB's that lose their 1st SB never make it back.

We haven't shown a lot of our 13 stuff either.

This is where Andy may have a few tricks up his sleeve.

GIMME MY TONEY ON A VERT OPPOSITE A 3 TE BUNCH!!!

Yeah, that seems pretty obvious, but Sneed did say he wasn’t following anyone this week. So IDK.

I tend to disbelieve what Sneed said, personally.

I must not have been paying attention. How many Bengals fans were over here posting leading up to the AFCCG?

Several. Of course, you picked up the slack for those who didn't show with your 500+ posts in 2 months.

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Ok. That's what i was wondering. I only recall seeing one other Bengals fan. Wasn't sure if i missed more or if i was just representing the sack of shit fan base.

In our reality, you are the full embodiment of all sack of shit bengals fans. Thank you for your service as our resident Bengal whipping boy.

lol. I wish i could rep this but have to pass it around first. Anyway, this is an Eagles SB thread. Bengals are home and old news. Just needed clarity on my question. :thumb:

I still like you more than the Bills fans...

Dude, you've really been nothing but class, especially since the game.

I'll be honest - the Bengals fans I saw elsewhere were some of the worst I've ever seen and we've had some doozies over the years.

I mean, these people were calling the Bengals unstoppable for weeks leading up to the game and then completely switched to "rigged" after they lost. Many of them STILL haven't given that up.

So kudos to you for being the bigger person.

Bills fans hating Patriots fans should really create a cockholster singularity whereupon the concentrated douche causes the universe to fold in on itself.

It's like Yankees/Red Sox. Girls, girls, settle down - you're BOTH ****stains.

I see you’ve met my ex.

I've seen a few people who were making a lot of noise about it being b.s. at the end of the game and signs of it being rigged... backtrack when they re-watched the game sober. The Pacheco TD getting called back for a hold seems to be a key point there.

I'm sure someone posted the meme but the Chiefs had more yards, more 1st downs, a higher 3rd down conversion rate, more sacks, more ToP, and fewer turnovers than the Bengals.

Blaming the refs for that game is dumb.

So basically rigged?

Eagles fans are really talking themselves into that their Defense will stop Patrick as if they beat the best offenses.

Good luck, guys.

I hate the ****ing Eagles.

Awwww you're so sweet.

Haven’t browsed this thread much, but I’m assuming there has been talk on the status of Hurts and his shoulder? Maybe 2 weeks of rest have helped, but he hasn’t really been all that effective in the 3 games since he returned from injury. His y/a is down, hasn’t thrown for many yards, and even his running numbers are down.

The author of this post runs a betting website. I've posted another Twitter thread he made about Hurts v Mahomes performance. TL;DR version is that Hurts play, as measured by EPA, drops tremendously when facing a good defense.

THis new thread analyzes why he thinks the Chiefs are seriously undervalued as underdogs in the SB. He gives 3 factors in this gave that favor the Chiefs and 1 that favors the Eagles. TL;DR version on this one is that the strong numbers from the Eagles' defense come from how they play and that style does not match up well against offenses like KC's and Mahomes in particular. Anyway, it's a lengthy thread so I can't really post it but it's well worth the time to review.

https://twitter.com/SharpClarkeNFL/s...32605966319619

Feels like everybody's picking the Eagles, but I think it's mostly a bunch of ESPN tools. NFL Pickwatch shows a slight edge to the Eagles among hundreds of analysts. 6 of 9 from The Athletic picked KC.

Barnwell also picked the Chiefs. He has a long breakdown at espn.com.

Yeah, every year. It’s actually usually cooler there than Florida that time of year.

Hurts was sacked almost twice as much as Pat with the protection of the run game passing way less , playing mostly with the lead against cupcake opponents all year why is their O line considered the best again when ours had the number one pass win rate.

I'm sure this has already been said in this thread but I can't be ****ed to read it: the Eagles defense are basically untested versus an elite offense. They've faced Trevor Lawrence and Aaron Rodgers for half a game. Let's give them a baptism of fire. Our defense has faced far scarier offenses than theirs and have kept us in the game. Let's see if theirs can do the same. My money is on the Chiefs.

They have given up more 30 point games that us vs much weaker Os 40 to Dak , 35 to Goff 32 to heineke 30+ to bad GB team we gave up 31 to TB in garbage time

It should be noted that we played Tampa in week 4, without Trent McDuffie and with a bunch of rookies in the secondary.

Since McDuffie came back, the Chiefs have given up more than 24 points just 3 times in 12 games. They've given up 20 or less 7 times and have given up an average of 19.75 points per game.

They haven't given up more than 28 points in any game since McDuffie came back.

It's a very difficult defense to deal with when McDuffie and Sneed are on the field.

Mostly because Spags is a tinkerer and when he has 2 guys he can put in man coverage out there and one of them is a guy like Sneed that he can put essentially anywhere on the field, it allows him to switch up coverages on a play to play basis and keep QBs guessing.

McDuffie was just such a perfect pick and he's an ideal complement to Sneed. They unlock a TON of what Spags wants to do on the back end. The more I watched that Bengals game, the more I realized how varied Spags was being in his coverage and how much that impacted what Poverty Cleveland was able to do with their passing attack.

Then you look at the gravity that Jones creates and the complementary nature of Bolton/Gay and Thornhill/Reid - fellas, this defense is REALLY capable. I'm not going to predict a sub 20 point game from Philly....but I won't dismiss the possibility.

I truly think McDuffie is going to be as big of a chess piece as Sneed. They can both play outside, they can both play the slot, they can both defend the run well.

You're exactly right. Spags loves to tinker and now he's got TWO guys that can pretty much do everything.

538 has us 57/43 in their model.

I would be willing to bet right now that Philly won't score more than 24. I think this defense is going to surprise some people on Sunday.

I won't be surprised, it's all setup. The Chiefs offense comes out scoring and gets Philly off script which I think will lead to Hurts pressing and turning it over.

Nate Taylor said on the Times Ours pod that this team was very relaxed. I think they know their enemy and are very confident in their plan.

I mean damn. I would be too. Jalen Hurts is a good player but where would he rank on the AFC playoff side?

Mahomes>Hurts
Burrow>Hurts
Allen>Hurts
Lawrence>Hurts
Herbert>Hurts

I’d say Hurts is better than Tua but I’m not convinced Hurts is better than a healthy Lamar Jackson.

He’s very system dependent just like Jimmy G

So Florio and Chris Simms both picked the Chiefs, that caught me off guard.

**** Florio.

Not yet.

In time, probably. But McDuffie looked real uncomfortable with those slot responsibilities in the Bengals game. He rallied and kept punching and by the end of the game was adequate, but he's not there yet.

McDuffie was playing against one of the best slot receivers in the game. Yeah he struggled a bit. But he didn't struggle in previous games.

I agree with you. He's not quite there yet. But he will be. I think he's going to be a star.

I said early in the season that red zone defense would be our strength. I thought the length of the new CBs combined with the shorter field that would paper over some of Bolton's shortcomings in space would really work to our advantage in those tight spaces. Then you throw in Karlaftis/Dunlaps ability to block passing lanes and get their hands up for timing routes and I would've been dead certain that, while we may struggle in between the 20s, we'd be nails in the red zone.

The numbers say I was dead-ass wrong and in fact we were a pretty terrible red zone defense.

If we don't improve over our average in the red zone, the game stays relatively close but Mahomes is too much for them and we pull it off. But if we play to where I THOUGHT the strengths of this team might be and tighten up our red zone efficiency, we could very easily dominate this ballgame.

I mean 2 trips down there that turn into FGs for Philly will absolutely cost them this game. They could maybe survive 1, but anything beyond that and I think they're toast.

So glad Veach jumped Buffalo to get him.

With friends like Florio...

I'm getting ****ing triggered at work right now



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And Spags.

Meh, $100 says Mahomes charity feeds more people in an hour than whoever this is does in a year... all of those cans are probably ****ing lima beans anyway

They're LA people. They don't know shit about football, they all thought the Eagles logo was from Silver Linings Playbook

LMAO

I'm baffled as to why Sneed doesn't get more love from the national press. He's probably a top 10 DB in the entire league but they treat him lioke an afterthought. Hopefully McDuffie can be just as good or better.

I'm surprised that Dane hasn't stopped by yet since it's SB week

Not enough splash plays. Only 8 INTs over three seasons, meanwhile we had Diggs a year or two ago snag like 6 in one season?

Hurts has thrown a grand total of 2 TD’s in his last 4 games he’s started. 121 passing attempts and that’s it.

I’m not convinced he’s better than Jimmy G when we played him in the Super Bowl.

Plus his shoulder on his throwing arm is still injured.

If you can stop the run he’s gonna have a real hard time

It’s a theme….

Really? I didn’t know Buffalo was trying to get him before KC.

Yeah Andy will eat that shit alive.

49ers pumping up Chiefs...
Not sure if serious

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo has said that he&#39;s talked to college coaches about how to defend the read option and the RPO game.<br><br>Turns out Urban Meyer was one of those coaches. He talks about him and how the Eagles are a little different. <a href="https://t.co/2hh9SwrK4c">pic.twitter.com/2hh9SwrK4c</a></p>&mdash; PJ Green (@PJGreenTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/PJGreenTV/status/1623715160891301888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Spags on the Read Option offense

Lolz, no. Though i bet they wish they had now. Their fanbase sure does.

No I meant Spags had a hand in drafting McDuffie, that's all.

They saw something in the film, I have no doubt at this point. This isn’t sour grapes in my opinion anyway.

If they were confident Purdy could exploit it, they know Mahomes will.

Deebo seems to like the Eagles.

Watch a few Eagles game highlights and you'll see it as well. Their DBs are all ball-hawking; they're jumping routes all the time (not every time, but a ton), basically selling out to make a big play.

Andy/Pat/Kelce will absolutely make them pay for that.

Its serious, they're salty and want revenge by proxie

I ran into an Eagles fan today. He was wearing a hat from the year they won. He was talking about how much he liked Andy Reid and his kids going to school with Andy's. I mentioned the SB they lost and he was like, "no, they have only been to one." Me: "I remember Donovan McNabb puking all over the field.” Him: “nope, McNabb never made it.”

Maybe he was in a coma for several months and when he woke up, no one had the heart to tell him. :shrug:

Let’s talk about the Eagles (Super Bowl edition!)
 

Don’t worry guys I’m wearing my Mahomes jersey and it’s undefeated.
Including…
The 13 second game
The Bucs drubbing this year
And the 2023 afc championship


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So PFF reporting Sneed was a LP with a knee injury today?

You should be sleeping in that all year, what the **** man, why do you take it off? Do you hate us?

They could do it because they played shitty QBs with poor OLs and worse pocket awareness.

Why not jump the route? He's not gonna freeze a safety with his eyes and hit the backside with it. Or be patient enough to wait on a double move.

Maybe they did it because they knew they could and it's not something they'll do this weekend - who knows? But they'll get vivisected if they try that shit on Mahomes. He'll absolutely toy with them.

Yeah. Spags is definitely gonna make his mentor proud..

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