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smithandrew051 10-15-2023 09:46 PM

Oh man, the studio ref trying to justify not throwing the flag.

The more you watch this, the more obvious it is that the hold was the only reason Waller didn’t catch it.

lcarus 10-15-2023 09:46 PM

Even if they called it, the Giants would've found a way to **** it up. They're a joke.

jerryaldini 10-15-2023 09:46 PM

Ok so everyone in the booth is calling it a flag. Ref afraid to throw it. Daboll shoulda been out there going crazy

GloryDayz 10-15-2023 09:46 PM

I'm sure that super-secret group of people who oversee and evaluate NFL official's performance will once again enjoy a huge pancake and omelet buffet and never watch any film.

St. Patty's Fire 10-15-2023 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17171940)
A lot of those teams suck. They'll be fine.

On paper, Cowboys/Chiefs/Eagles are better and the Jets/Bengals seem to own them. Chargers/Bucs games are toss ups. Broncos obviously have no chance. They almost just lost to the Giants at home and we’re gonna act like these games aren’t gonna be incredibly tough for them?

smithandrew051 10-15-2023 09:47 PM

The only thing stopping Waller from getting that left hand up was the hold. Easy catch with no grab of his jersey.

EPodolak 10-15-2023 09:47 PM

Studio ref thought it was a foul too.

Titty Meat 10-15-2023 09:47 PM

That was absolutely a hold and PI whatever ****ing definition they want to use

wazu 10-15-2023 09:47 PM

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Ron Swanson 10-15-2023 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17171944)
Oh man, the studio ref trying to justify not throwing the flag.

The more you watch this, the more obvious it is that the hold was the only reason Waller didn’t catch it.

Yep, that was ridiculous. Just say it was clearly a foul and the ref missed it. That's why I hate refs.

RealSNR 10-15-2023 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 17171917)
to be fair his qb is old tyrod taylor and his ol is made of duct tape and super glue

Better old Tyrod Taylor than young Daniel Jones

KC_Connection 10-15-2023 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17171944)
Oh man, the studio ref trying to justify not throwing the flag.

The more you watch this, the more obvious it is that the hold was the only reason Waller didn’t catch it.

There's some kind of debate as to whether that was a penalty? Seriously?

Felt pretty clear that they just didn't want to call two DPIs in a row.

suzzer99 10-15-2023 09:50 PM

Yep, just keep doing it until they don't call it.

St. Patty's Fire 10-15-2023 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17171956)
Better old Tyrod Taylor than young Daniel Jones

taylor did look more competent than jones, end of the half debacle included

In58men 10-15-2023 09:51 PM

Josh Allen currently having x-rays done. No word on what

St. Patty's Fire 10-15-2023 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17171960)
Josh Allen currently having x-rays done. No word on what

the bills will be fine tho LMAO

kcpasco 10-15-2023 09:53 PM

I was told only KC gets favorable calls.

smithandrew051 10-15-2023 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17171957)
There's some kind of debate as to whether that was a penalty? Seriously?

Felt pretty clear that they just didn't want to call two DPIs in a row.

Collinsworth said it was clear that the jersey grab prevented Walller from getting his left hand up.

Terry said the jersey pull didn’t matter because the ball was already in the air (which I’m doubtful that the ball was in the air when he first started pulling the jersey). Then Terry said that the jersey pill must significantly hinder Waller’s ability to catch the ball to be a foul. He said the ref must have felt the pull wasn’t significant.

We all know what actually happened. The ref just decided not to throw it. Pretty simple.

St. Patty's Fire 10-15-2023 09:55 PM

if only waller was the one with tay tay

suzzer99 10-15-2023 09:55 PM

Terry was just trying to be diplomatic to his fellow ref.

jerryaldini 10-15-2023 09:57 PM

Giants 0-5 in the red zone. Shoulda just handed that last one to Barkley

smithandrew051 10-15-2023 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17171971)
Giants 0-5 in the red zone. Shoulda just handed that last one to Barkley

That looked like a pretty good play call to me.

If the DB doesn’t grab Waller’s jersey, he catches it pretty easily. He just needs to get that left hand up and the Giants win.

If a DB can get away with that, you don’t have much of a chance.

wazu 10-15-2023 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17171973)
That looked like a pretty good play call to me.

If the DB doesn’t grab Waller’s jersey, he catches it pretty easily. He just needs to get that left hand up and the Giants win.

If a DB can get away with that, you don’t have much of a chance.

Untimed down I agree with SR. Run the ball there.

ThyKingdomCome15 10-15-2023 10:20 PM

Almost the freakiest day of football ever lol. So close Giants.

MahomesMagic 10-15-2023 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17171973)
That looked like a pretty good play call to me.

If the DB doesn’t grab Waller’s jersey, he catches it pretty easily. He just needs to get that left hand up and the Giants win.

If a DB can get away with that, you don’t have much of a chance.



Hard to go up and catch it when they grab your jersey like that. Buffalo gambled that the refs would not want to call 2 PI calls in a row.

jerryaldini 10-15-2023 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17171995)
Hard to go up and catch it when they grab your jersey like that. Buffalo gambled that the refs would not want to call 2 PI calls in a row.

Which is a reason I run it there. You're probably gonna get held
Give it to your best player

lcarus 10-15-2023 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17171998)
Which is a reason I run it there. You're probably gonna get held
Give it to your best player

I would've had Barkley take the snap and have 2 players push from behind. It would have been such an epic play to watch.

jerryaldini 10-15-2023 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 17172000)
I would've had Barkley take the snap and have 2 players push from behind. It would have been such an epic play to watch.

Daboll was asked about that because they've used it successfully before. He just said he thought they had the right play

MarkDavis'Haircut 10-15-2023 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17171924)
Pretty obvious jersey pull.

And don’t tell me the refs won’t throw the flag again in that situation.

I have a Chiefs Raiders game you should watch from 2017.

One of the five good memories since 2003.

MarkDavis'Haircut 10-15-2023 11:02 PM

The replacement refs got a raw deal.


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