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pugsnotdrugs19 02-07-2025 12:19 PM

I would say entering every other Super Bowl, as a fan of the team, my confidence in winning ranged anywhere from 50% to 60%. Last year was probably closer to low 50s. The previous Philly matchup would have been a solid 50%, that one had my relatively worried. Tampa was 50% because of the OL issues.

This year I'm 60-65%. Can we lose? Absolutely. But I feel better than I ever have.

smithandrew051 02-07-2025 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17954221)
This is completely false.

No team that gives up 4.3 YPC has the best run defense in the NFL.

Furthermore, the Rams were able to run on them.

If you believe PFF (which I typically don’t), their DTs are vulnerable against the run.

Their run defense grades are:

Carter - 59.3
Davis - 58.6
Ojomo - 56.4
Williams - 41.7

Chiefs likely aren’t running it outside for big gains, but Hunt between the tackles could be big. Even if he just converts the short yardage stuff and helps the Chiefs stay ahead of the sticks, his impact could be massive.

Fishels 02-07-2025 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17954172)
Best thread in the history of this site.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=256360 (for anyone that somehow hasn't read it)

Oh wow lol

pugsnotdrugs19 02-07-2025 12:28 PM

I've gotten the vibes from Andy all week that he knows this game plan is damn good with a nice chance to have Philly on their heels.

We'll see how they execute it.

RunKC 02-07-2025 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17954228)
I would say entering every other Super Bowl, as a fan of the team, my confidence in winning ranged anywhere from 50% to 60%. Last year was probably closer to low 50s. The previous Philly matchup would have been a solid 50%, that one had my relatively worried. Tampa was 50% because of the OL issues.

This year I'm 60-65%. Can we lose? Absolutely. But I feel better than I ever have.

Yup. What matters favors the Chiefs.

HC-Chiefs
QB-Chiefs
Entire coaching staff: Chiefs

Weakest QB and pass rush we’ve faced in our 5 SB’s. I will be really disappointed if they lose this game. It would be because of a ton of self inflicted errors.

Chiefnj2 02-07-2025 12:39 PM

The game will come down to the rush for both teams.

Vic Fangio plays mostly cover 3 and quarters. KC will need the OL, Pacheco, Hunt and Perrine to have a good day. They will need to establish the run early in order to open up the passing game.

Similarly, KC will need to limit Saquon without having the DB's cheat up too much, or else it will open up Philly's passing game.

Hammock Parties 02-07-2025 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17954239)
I've gotten the vibes from Andy all week that he knows this game plan is damn good with a nice chance to have Philly on their heels.

We'll see how they execute it.

I've never seen this kind of confidence in Andy.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-07-2025 12:42 PM

Last year, I kinda talked myself into thinking we could handle the 49ers and would win by at least 7 points. I thought we'd expose their defense and have overall command of the game. That did not happen at all, and it took a muffed punt to get us back in the game.

So yeah, I know we're talking big here, but I refuse to give myself that level of confidence. This is gonna be a close game, probably a 3 point or less game going into the last 2 minutes. That's just how we do it.

UChieffyBugger 02-07-2025 12:50 PM

Daniel Jeremiah made an interesting point saying he thinks KC should surprise the Eagles defense by playing with tempo. That way you can wear down the Eagles D-line and confuse their young secondary on the back end. He said forcing them to communicate quickly should be high on Andy's list.

And that's what the media folks don't understand. Most of the Eagles defense haven't played in a superbowl before. Mitchell, Dejean, Carter, Baun, Smith, Milton, Blankenship, Davis, Huff, Rogers etc. So there's an opportunity to really target those guys and test those nerves.

staylor26 02-07-2025 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17954250)
The game will come down to the rush for both teams.

Vic Fangio plays mostly cover 3 and quarters. KC will need the OL, Pacheco, Hunt and Perrine to have a good day. They will need to establish the run early in order to open up the passing game.

Similarly, KC will need to limit Saquon without having the DB's cheat up too much, or else it will open up Philly's passing game.

Yea Super Bowls are determined by RBs, not QBs! :rolleyes:

Lol no. It won't "come down to the rush for both teams".

DJ's left nut 02-07-2025 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17954250)
The game will come down to the rush for both teams.

Vic Fangio plays mostly cover 3 and quarters. KC will need the OL, Pacheco, Hunt and Perrine to have a good day. They will need to establish the run early in order to open up the passing game.

Similarly, KC will need to limit Saquon without having the DB's cheat up too much, or else it will open up Philly's passing game.

Man, I really want to see Hollywood and/or Worthy on some drags through that cover 3. Just pop that little lob pass out the back side of a zone and let him catch it with a head of steam and one man to beat down the sideline.

Just strikes me as a bad idea against this team. I'd force them over the top since that's the thing we haven't shown an ability to do with any regularity all season.

DJ's left nut 02-07-2025 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17954265)
Yea Super Bowls are determined by RBs, not QBs! :rolleyes:

Lol no. It won't "come down to the rush for both teams".

Yeah - there are FAR easier ways to punish that coverage and 'open up the passing lanes' than running Kareem Hunt into it.

Let 'em play quarters -- we'll vivisect that with just a little bit of time to throw.

Chiefspants 02-07-2025 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl1966 (Post 17953984)
I have yet to see an eagles site where the fans are as fragile or arrogant as chiefs fans here.

LMAO

You mean how your sub downvotes your own fans who are worried about the game to oblivion? Though I suppose that’s an improvement from how Philly fans beat the shit out of opposing fans or call them racial or gendered slurs.

FloridaMan88 02-07-2025 12:55 PM

They never learn…

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GjMXCKdW...jpg&name=large

DJ's left nut 02-07-2025 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17954245)
Yup. What matters favors the Chiefs.

HC-Chiefs
QB-Chiefs
Entire coaching staff: Chiefs

Weakest QB and pass rush we’ve faced in our 5 SB’s. I will be really disappointed if they lose this game. It would be because of a ton of self inflicted errors.

Grapes is the weakest QB we've faced and it's not particularly close.

siberian khatru 02-07-2025 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17954272)

Aww, after Greeny said all those nice things about the Chiefs the other day, too.

Chiefspants 02-07-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17954264)
Daniel Jeremiah made an interesting point saying he thinks KC should surprise the Eagles defense by playing with tempo. That way you can wear down the Eagles D-line and confuse their young secondary on the back end. He said forcing them to communicate quickly should be high on Andy's list.

And that's what the media folks don't understand. Most of the Eagles defense haven't played in a superbowl before. Mitchell, Dejean, Carter, Baun, Smith, Milton, Blankenship, Davis, Huff, Rogers etc. So there's an opportunity to really target those guys and test those nerves.

We are dead last playing with tempo in the Mahomes era with a huge gap between us and 31 on the list. It’s something Andy only does when he absolutely has to (like with 8 minutes left in Super Bowl 54. Which uh, hint hint, nudge nudge, it works and works really well).

Andy just loves having unique personnel packages and varying it up with each drive - and to be fair, it’s hard to argue with the results.

Chiefspants 02-07-2025 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17954245)
Yup. What matters favors the Chiefs.

HC-Chiefs
QB-Chiefs
Entire coaching staff: Chiefs

Weakest QB and pass rush we’ve faced in our 5 SB’s. I will be really disappointed if they lose this game. It would be because of a ton of self inflicted errors.

We can’t overlook Jalen Carter potentially working Smith and Caliendo getting worked through the game. This has game-wrecking or at the very least, drive stalling potential against our offense and it was this consistent pressure that nearly shut out our offense in the first half of Super Bowl 58.

The 49ers defense had just been trashed against the Packers and Lions, and yet we only managed one touchdown drive in that game, and much of that was the pressure the 49ers could get with 4 down lineman. If their interior creates similar pressure we’ll likely run into similar challenges.

Bearcat 02-07-2025 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954256)
Last year, I kinda talked myself into thinking we could handle the 49ers and would win by at least 7 points. I thought we'd expose their defense and have overall command of the game. That did not happen at all, and it took a muffed punt to get us back in the game.

So yeah, I know we're talking big here, but I refuse to give myself that level of confidence. This is gonna be a close game, probably a 3 point or less game going into the last 2 minutes. That's just how we do it.

Yeah, I feel like blowouts or even two-possession 'comfortable' games are caused by....
...multiple turnovers and quick scores, like pick sixes, scoop/score, starting drives in the red zone
...multiple big time injuries
...the worst refs imaginable
...a game that's just an awful, awful mismatch

The last thing doesn't often happen in the Super Bowl (and usually only the NFCCG in the last couple weekends since that conference is a shitshow of mediocrity).

Then you hope the refs and injuries don't happen.

And then you're left with one team imploding.

And that goes beyond say the Chiefs being up 21-10 in the AFCCG as we saw, or the Chiefs being down 10 in the Super Bowl without possession of the ball, because teams at this stage are usually explosive enough to get back into it.

I'd be ecstatic if they just kept it at arms length in the 2nd half for the most part and the Eagles never have possession with a chance to take the lead... if it's more out of hand than that, the Eagles are either the fakest SB contender ever or have seriously screwed the pooch (and of course the same goes for the Chiefs if they found themselves in the same spot).

UChieffyBugger 02-07-2025 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954256)
Last year, I kinda talked myself into thinking we could handle the 49ers and would win by at least 7 points. I thought we'd expose their defense and have overall command of the game. That did not happen at all, and it took a muffed punt to get us back in the game.

So yeah, I know we're talking big here, but I refuse to give myself that level of confidence. This is gonna be a close game, probably a 3 point or less game going into the last 2 minutes. That's just how we do it.

I'm not talking big here at all and i never have before big games. But remember last years team had plenty of problems offensively and they didn't even score in the second half vs the Ravens so those struggles in the SB was just a continuation of previous issues. But this year since Hollywood came back this team has put up 27, 29, 23, 32. They have also got into the redzone five or more times in all of those games and converted 13/21 of those drives. And it would have been more but for some kneeldowns. So I do think this offense is better this year going into the big dance.

UChieffyBugger 02-07-2025 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17954272)

They all picked KC the day before so it looks like it was a calculated stunt because Jeff Saturday even hinted before that that "he might change his pick".

Anyway Stephen A Smith, Mad Dog Russo and Shannon Sharpe (as always) picked the Eagles. Cam Newton was the only one going with KC.

Chiefspants 02-07-2025 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17954274)
Grapes is the weakest QB we've faced and it's not particularly close.

That closed eye interception is often forgotten because of how early it happened, but that shit was a Cassielian game-swinging moment for us. We could not stop their offense and ours was struggling to sustain drives at that point in the game.

Since then, I’m not sure a QB has thrown us a gift like that in a Super Bowl.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-07-2025 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17954285)
Yeah, I feel like blowouts or even two-possession 'comfortable' games are caused by....
...multiple turnovers and quick scores, like pick sixes, scoop/score, starting drives in the red zone
...multiple big time injuries
...the worst refs imaginable
...a game that's just an awful, awful mismatch

The last thing doesn't often happen in the Super Bowl (and usually only the NFCCG in the last couple weekends since that conference is a shitshow of mediocrity).

Then you hope the refs and injuries don't happen.

And then you're left with one team imploding.

And that goes beyond say the Chiefs being up 21-10 in the AFCCG as we saw, or the Chiefs being down 10 in the Super Bowl without possession of the ball, because teams at this stage are usually explosive enough to get back into it.

I'd be ecstatic if they just kept it at arms length in the 2nd half for the most part and the Eagles never have possession with a chance to take the lead... if it's more out of hand than that, the Eagles are either the fakest SB contender ever or have seriously screwed the pooch (and of course the same goes for the Chiefs if they found themselves in the same spot).

I think there's a 10% chance we win by 7 points or more. Like you said, something crazy like multiple turnovers or Mahomes completely torching this defense are the only way that happens. It's fun to think about and it's not outside of the realm of possibility, but let's be real here. It's extremely unlikely. This is probably gonna be a close one.

Balto 02-07-2025 01:12 PM

Eagles vs Bucs game could be the way. Dink and Dunk, Dink and Dunk. quick short passes. Watch the highlight BUT I'd suggest put it on mute so you can't hear that dumbass Brady talking.

Bearcat 02-07-2025 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954295)
I think there's a 10% chance we win by 7 points or more. Like you said, something crazy like multiple turnovers or Mahomes completely torching this defense are the only ways that happen. It's fun to think about and it's not outside of the realm of possibility, but let's be real here. It's extremely unlikely. This is probably gonna be a close one.

And he kind of did two seasons ago (at least in the 2nd half), but even when Hurts wasn't throwing dimes, he could just throw some Lamar specials towards Brown or Smith to run under.... granted, I'd be surprised if their offense looks THAT good this time around.

UChieffyBugger 02-07-2025 01:22 PM

Just saw on twitter Dr Jesse Morse spoke about the injuries for this game.

1. Concerned about Smith's hamstring. Think he reaggravated a previous hamstring problem in the last game.

2. Thinks Hurts is still carrying that knee injury.

3. Thinks Cam Jurgens will tough it out but back may still be an issue.

If Smith doesn't get a full practice in today then alarmbells may start ringing. He missed week 12 and 13 in the regular season with the same hamstring problem.

staylor26 02-07-2025 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954295)
I think there's a 10% chance we win by 7 points or more. Like you said, something crazy like multiple turnovers or Mahomes completely torching this defense are the only way that happens. It's fun to think about and it's not outside of the realm of possibility, but let's be real here. It's extremely unlikely. This is probably gonna be a close one.

I strongly disagree, because all it would likely take is the Chiefs getting out to an early 2 score lead. With a QB like Mahomes on one side and Hurts on the other, I don't think it's "extremely" unlikely.

ChiefsHawk 02-07-2025 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17954307)
Just saw on twitter Dr Jesse Morse spoke about the injuries for this game.

1. Concerned about Smith's hamstring. Think he reaggravated a previous hamstring problem in the last game.

2. Thinks Hurts is still carrying that knee injury.

3. Thinks Cam Jurgens will tough it out but back may still be an issue.

If Smith doesn't get a full practice in today then alarmbells may start ringing. He missed week 12 and 13 in the regular season with the same hamstring problem.

The other aspect is the flu going around

pugsnotdrugs19 02-07-2025 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17954307)
Just saw on twitter Dr Jesse Morse spoke about the injuries for this game.

1. Concerned about Smith's hamstring. Think he reaggravated a previous hamstring problem in the last game.

2. Thinks Hurts is still carrying that knee injury.

3. Thinks Cam Jurgens will tough it out but back may still be an issue.

If Smith doesn't get a full practice in today then alarmbells may start ringing. He missed week 12 and 13 in the regular season with the same hamstring problem.

And Chao thinks Dickerson is either playing through an ACL or meniscus type injury....

Bearcat 02-07-2025 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17954308)
I strongly disagree, because all it would likely take is the Chiefs getting out to an early 2 score lead. With a QB like Mahomes on one side and Hurts on the other, I don't think it's "extremely" unlikely.

They were so ****ing close to a 14-3 lead in the AFCCG... if they can duplicate that start without the turnover, shit gets real interesting.

DJ's left nut 02-07-2025 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17954322)
They were so ****ing close to a 14-3 lead in the AFCCG... if they can duplicate that start without the turnover, shit gets real interesting.

I do feel like the degree of diffuculty in Philly's offense is low enough that the 'yips' are less likely.

I mean Allen just came out tight and looked like balls for 2 drives.

Philly's offense just doesn't really subject itself to that kind of thing as much. Coming out tight won't get in the way of "Hand it to Saquon and wait for him to make a guy in the 2nd level miss..."

I feel like a substantial lead is going to need to be a 'water over rocks' sort of thing where we just keep plugging away, they keep stalling after a 1st down or 2, maybe they settle for a FG in there, and suddenly it's 17-6 and they're having to look to get more aggressive as halftime approaches.

THEN you might see some big mistakes. But I don't see that happening in the early parts of the game.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-07-2025 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17954308)
I strongly disagree, because all it would likely take is the Chiefs getting out to an early 2 score lead. With a QB like Mahomes on one side and Hurts on the other, I don't think it's "extremely" unlikely.

I'm sorry I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid on this one. There are reasons to believe the Eagles D-Line will slow us down with Caliendo being a weakness and Trey having to line up against Carter.

The Eagles O-Line is absolutely outstanding. Even if we contain Barkley, if they get consistent push on our D-Line where Barkley and Hurts get 2 yards before contact, they can ride that kind of running game to points and most importantly, keep Mahomes off the field.

Do I think that means we're ****ed? Absolutely not. But it's enough to slow us down, and enough to keep the game close, where anything can happen. The Eagles made it the Super Bowl for a reason, they aren't gonna just lay down for us. Chances are this game is close.

htismaqe 02-07-2025 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954332)
I'm sorry I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid on this one. There are reasons to believe the Eagles D-Line will slow us down with Caliendo being a weakness and Trey having to line up against Carter.

The Eagles O-Line is absolutely outstanding. Even if we contain Barkley, if they get consistent push on our D-Line where Barkley and Hurts get 2 yards before contact, they can ride that kind of running game to points and most importantly, keep Mahomes off the field.

Do I think that means we're ****ed? Absolutely not. But it's enough to slow us down, and enough to keep the game close, where anything can happen. The Eagles made it the Super Bowl for a reason, they aren't gonna just lay down for us. Chances are this game is close.

And if it is close, who do you think that favors?

I'm going with the team that simply doesn't lose close games.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-07-2025 01:49 PM

Great news, Jason McIntyre picks against the Chiefs again. As he does every week in playoff games, for years now.

Mecca 02-07-2025 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954332)
I'm sorry I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid on this one. There are reasons to believe the Eagles D-Line will slow us down with Caliendo being a weakness and Trey having to line up against Carter.

The Eagles O-Line is absolutely outstanding. Even if we contain Barkley, if they get consistent push on our D-Line where Barkley and Hurts get 2 yards before contact, they can ride that kind of running game to points and most importantly, keep Mahomes off the field.

Do I think that means we're ****ed? Absolutely not. But it's enough to slow us down, and enough to keep the game close, where anything can happen. The Eagles made it the Super Bowl for a reason, they aren't gonna just lay down for us. Chances are this game is close.

What happens when the Chiefs run trap and Smith ear holes Carter?

staylor26 02-07-2025 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954332)
I'm sorry I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid on this one. There are reasons to believe the Eagles D-Line will slow us down with Caliendo being a weakness and Trey having to line up against Carter.

The Eagles O-Line is absolutely outstanding. Even if we contain Barkley, if they get consistent push on our D-Line where Barkley and Hurts get 2 yards before contact, they can ride that kind of running game to points and most importantly, keep Mahomes off the field.

Do I think that means we're ****ed? Absolutely not. But it's enough to slow us down, and enough to keep the game close, where anything can happen. The Eagles made it the Super Bowl for a reason, they aren't gonna just lay down for us. Chances are this game is close.

You're absolutely drinking that Eagles Kool-Aid.

I'm not even saying it's likely, but "extremely unlikely" is way too much Eagles dick sucking for me. They aren't THAT ****ing good. They got blown out by the ****ing Bucs, so no, I don't think it's "extremely" unlikely, even if it's unlikely.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-07-2025 01:53 PM

This Eagles line is not as good as two years ago if for no other reason, the injuries.

Besides that, Chris Jones showed he can beat their tackles, even Lane Johnson, in the RS matchup last season.

Look for them to attack that way and let the Omenihu's, Danna's, Wharton's of the world really test out the agility of this interior.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-07-2025 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17954333)
And if it is close, who do you think that favors?

I'm going with the team that simply doesn't lose close games.

Well that's why I think we win.

We have an advantage in the 4th quarter, 9 minutes to go, 3 point game situation. Eagles fans and players aren't gonna be feeling great if Mahomes is driving late in a close game, they know what's coming. They'd have to put the game out of reach to truly slay us, or do what they did to Brady and come up with a crazy clutch turnover.

But us putting the game out of reach for the Eagles I think is unlikely in a game like this. Possible, but unlikely.

staylor26 02-07-2025 01:54 PM

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DJ's left nut 02-07-2025 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17954340)
You're absolutely drinking that Eagles Kool-Aid.

I'm not even saying it's likely, but "extremely unlikely" is way too much Eagles dick sucking for me. They aren't THAT ****ing good. They got blown out by the ****ing Bucs, so no, I don't think it's "extremely" unlikely, even if it's unlikely.

I called them a better version of the Bills.

But I think they're actually a worse version of the Ravens.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-07-2025 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17954338)
What happens when the Chiefs run trap and Smith ear holes Carter?

If Trey actually does that and Carter starts throwing punches in frustration then we're golden. That's absolutely best case scenario.

Mecca 02-07-2025 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17954342)
This Eagles line is not as good as two years ago if for no other reason, the injuries.

Besides that, Chris Jones showed he can beat their tackles, even Lane Johnson, in the RS matchup last season.

Look for them to attack that way and let the Omenihu's, Danna's, Wharton's of the world really test out the agility of this interior.

They have a guard with a bad knee, a center with a bad back and a RG that's size is a detriment to how quickly he moves. The space between C and RG is going to be exploitable.

Mecca 02-07-2025 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17954348)
I called them a better version of the Bills.

But I think they're actually a worse version of the Ravens.

Worse version of the Ravens is spot on, Hurts isn't near the issue Allen is which without that Buffalo wouldn't be a difficult matchup.

duncan_idaho 02-07-2025 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17954199)
One other thing that has been a trend with those other fanbases is that they are so convinced that they will win and win comfortably. To them it’s inconceivable that they could lose. Once it happens then all the excuses like field/script/rigged etc come out because of the aforementioned bias. I get it as New England used to be the same way. Biggest difference is that some of their success is tainted.

Yeah, it's a microcosm of modern society.

People get convinced they're right and their side/team/whatever is going to win, and then when they don't, instead of accepting that - perhaps! - they were just wrong or missed something that mattered, it has to be a conspiracy against them.

UChieffyBugger 02-07-2025 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954332)
I'm sorry I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid on this one. There are reasons to believe the Eagles D-Line will slow us down with Caliendo being a weakness and Trey having to line up against Carter.

The Eagles O-Line is absolutely outstanding. Even if we contain Barkley, if they get consistent push on our D-Line where Barkley and Hurts get 2 yards before contact, they can ride that kind of running game to points and most importantly, keep Mahomes off the field.

Do I think that means we're ****ed? Absolutely not. But it's enough to slow us down, and enough to keep the game close, where anything can happen. The Eagles made it the Super Bowl for a reason, they aren't gonna just lay down for us. Chances are this game is close.

Folks love to talk about Caliendo but despite playing against some good DLines dude has held up well. They just put the "weakness" tag on him because it's lazy and he's not Joe Thuney. And like I've stated previously. This defense has faced Lamar and Henry and Allen and Cooks. They've seen similar rungames already. And even when Barkley has had big games they lost to Washington and was in huge danger of losing to the Rams late.

SHOWTIME 02-07-2025 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17954334)
Great news, Jason McIntyre picks against the Chiefs again. As he does every week in playoff games, for years now.

And Chris Berman picked the Chiefs to win 27-24...he's been right the past 5 of 6 years.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-07-2025 02:06 PM

I hope people realize I'm not doubting the Chiefs. My base beliefs are that it's likely to be a close game, and we're gonna need some serious outliers for it to swing one way or the other.

Last year I drank the Kool-Aid that we had a serious advantage over the 49ers defense, we really didn't and I was frustrated the game was close. I'm not falling into that again.

siberian khatru 02-07-2025 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17954359)
And Chris Berman picked the Chiefs to win 27-24...he's been right the past 5 of 6 years.

I think I saw something yesterday that Peter Schrager has correctly picked the SB winner going back to 2019. And he picked us to win this year.

smithandrew051 02-07-2025 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954360)
I hope people realize I'm not doubting the Chiefs. My base beliefs are that it's likely to be a close game, and we're gonna need some serious outliers for it to swing one way or the other.

Last year I drank the Kool-Aid that we had a serious advantage over the 49ers defense, we really didn't and I was frustrated the game was close. I'm not falling into that again.

You were frustrated with a close Super Bowl win?

WilliamTheIrish 02-07-2025 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl1966 (Post 17953984)
I have yet to see an eagles site where the fans are as fragile or arrogant as chiefs fans here.

Fragile and arrogant?

Peg Bundy voice “Ohhh Al”… you ****ing loser.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-07-2025 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17954363)
You were frustrated with a close Super Bowl win?

I was pretty pissed we were losing deep into the 3rd quarter to ****ing Brock Purdy and that the supposed "weak Niners defense" was stone-walling us. Obviously that changed when we got back into the game, but I didn't like how wrong I was about the Niners defense after hearing from a ton of sources I trusted that we'd put up points on them.

So yeah, I don't really predict blowouts anymore because it puts me in a foul mood if we don't meet that expectation.

Bearcat 02-07-2025 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17954363)
You were frustrated with a close Super Bowl win?

Seems pretty common around here... we set really high expectations and then for a lack of a better word, "settle" when those expectations that we completely made up aren't met. Just like the Jordan video posted last night, really.

And it could be for perfectly good, rational reasons... like they're playing against a quarterback who looks like a little kid who dressed up as an NFL quarterback for Halloween, in his first ever Super Bowl.

I was trying real hard not to be pissed off while sitting at Arrowhead against the Texans in the first half of that game... didn't think they'd lose, but goddamnit it's the playoffs and it's the ****ing Texans.

Mecca 02-07-2025 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17954359)
And Chris Berman picked the Chiefs to win 27-24...he's been right the past 5 of 6 years.

Jeff Chadiha picked the Chiefs, what kinda bizarro world is this?

Mecca 02-07-2025 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17954363)
You were frustrated with a close Super Bowl win?

There are people that want a 49ers 55-10 moment.

RunKC 02-07-2025 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17954342)
This Eagles line is not as good as two years ago if for no other reason, the injuries.

Besides that, Chris Jones showed he can beat their tackles, even Lane Johnson, in the RS matchup last season.

Look for them to attack that way and let the Omenihu's, Danna's, Wharton's of the world really test out the agility of this interior.

Five sacks in the first half last time we played them. FIVE

Also Chris Jones will destroy Landon Dickerson

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/i7C0yGrDs9">https://t.co/i7C0yGrDs9</a> <a href="https://t.co/EYpgC0n70K">pic.twitter.com/EYpgC0n70K</a></p>&mdash; 𝘙𝘑 (@RJLockedIn) <a href="https://twitter.com/RJLockedIn/status/1887910224222109828?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bearcat 02-07-2025 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17954352)
Yeah, it's a microcosm of modern society.

People get convinced they're right and their side/team/whatever is going to win, and then when they don't, instead of accepting that - perhaps! - they were just wrong or missed something that mattered, it has to be a conspiracy against them.

And they take it so damn personally, or like an overprotective parent who can't ever admit their kid ****ed up or maybe just isn't good enough.

That's one way I've kind of removed myself from losing sleep over losses... externalize that shit, because it's external.

No need to go through the stages of grief on behalf of the team (granted, lots of people don't get past denial, as you said).

RunKC 02-07-2025 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17954274)
Grapes is the weakest QB we've faced and it's not particularly close.

Not sure I agree here. Hurts has not been the same QB since Steichen left.

Pepe Silvia 02-07-2025 02:38 PM

2 more days. It's coming.

Indian Chief 02-07-2025 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17954390)
Not sure I agree here. Hurts has not been the same QB since Steichen left.

True. Also, Jimmy never had a game like Hurts had in that Super Bowl.

kccrow 02-07-2025 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17954373)
There are people that want a 49ers 55-10 moment.

I would love for us to win like that this time around just to shut the media and fans up about the rest of the bullshit. Leave no doubt about who the king of the mountain is... but that will likely never be a reality.

Megatron96 02-07-2025 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17954390)
Not sure I agree here. Hurts has not been the same QB since Steichen left.



Really? So you’d take Jimmy G. Over Hurts in some game situations? Would love to read your reasoning on that.


Because for me I’d never take G in any football game if I could get Hurts instead.

RunKC 02-07-2025 02:50 PM

The Chiefs have been waiting for this game for an entire year.

They want this badly. They’re locked in. And I think they’re gonna come out on ****ing fire like they did vs the Bills.

smithandrew051 02-07-2025 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17954369)
Seems pretty common around here... we set really high expectations and then for a lack of a better word, "settle" when those expectations that we completely made up aren't met. Just like the Jordan video posted last night, really.

And it could be for perfectly good, rational reasons... like they're playing against a quarterback who looks like a little kid who dressed up as an NFL quarterback for Halloween, in his first ever Super Bowl.

I was trying real hard not to be pissed off while sitting at Arrowhead against the Texans in the first half of that game... didn't think they'd lose, but goddamnit it's the playoffs and it's the ****ing Texans.

I predict a blow out every week then I’m happy if the Chiefs win by 1.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-07-2025 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17954404)
I predict a blow out every week then I’m happy if the Chiefs win by 1.

You have no idea how much I wish I could live like this as a fan.

Bearcat 02-07-2025 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17954404)
I predict a blow out every week then I’m happy if the Chiefs win by 1.

I assume some people bet on games and then have conflicting feelings of losing money on the spread and the Chiefs still winning (one guy next to me during the Texans game had some prop bets for a Kelce touchdown and was pissed every time Pacheco was in because he needed Hunt to do well).

smithandrew051 02-07-2025 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954412)
You have no idea how much I wish I could live like this as a fan.

Being a ****ing idiot has its perks

htismaqe 02-07-2025 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954349)
If Trey actually does that and Carter starts throwing punches in frustration then we're golden. That's absolutely best case scenario.

I said this a couple of days ago. Go at him. He's the type of hothead that will end up throwing a punch.

staylor26 02-07-2025 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17954430)
I said this a couple of days ago. Go at him. He's the type of hothead that will end up throwing a punch.

And I think they absolutely will. That's the kind of shit Trey does.

htismaqe 02-07-2025 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17954412)
You have no idea how much I wish I could live like this as a fan.

You can. It's called Xanax. :drool:

wazu 02-07-2025 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17954413)
I assume some people bet on games and then have conflicting feelings of losing money on the spread and the Chiefs still winning (one guy next to me during the Texans game had some prop bets for a Kelce touchdown and was pissed every time Pacheco was in because he needed Hunt to do well).

I really can't imagine betting on Chiefs games. I don't need the game to be any more exciting or interesting. And I for damn sure don't want to be bummed on any level when we barely win but don't cover the spread.

That said, I do kind of root for us to cover the spread because I generally figure a lot of other Chiefs fans or at least Chiefs believers benefit from it.

MahomesMagic 02-07-2025 03:47 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Skyy Moore is doubtful for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SBLIX?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SBLIX</a> against the Eagles.</p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1887958844728385940?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 02-07-2025 03:51 PM

lol at that post. They’re just having fun with this.

Dartgod 02-07-2025 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17954444)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Skyy Moore is doubtful for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SBLIX?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SBLIX</a> against the Eagles.</p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1887958844728385940?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Never more appropriate.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/nwoJ4BS0X...-no-anyway.gif

ChiTown 02-07-2025 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17954094)
"Viciously attacked..."

God help you if you ever have your feet torn off by a roller-coaster. Or steal a laptop. Or have a weak jaw line. Or get an ugly tattoo.

This just may not be the place for you, bucko.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

ChiTown 02-07-2025 04:03 PM

Skyy Moore has played his last season in KC having 3 targets and not making a catch...

https://media.tenor.com/0uc7hVri9qMA...t-chapelle.gif

RunKC 02-07-2025 04:08 PM

Holy shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jalen Hurts and the Eagles vs free rushers. <a href="https://t.co/IprKffTl98">pic.twitter.com/IprKffTl98</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1887967371845059048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 02-07-2025 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17954465)
Holy shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jalen Hurts and the Eagles vs free rushers. <a href="https://t.co/IprKffTl98">pic.twitter.com/IprKffTl98</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1887967371845059048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The 2nd view from behind the offense - that Saints blitz/sim pressure was almost identical the overload Spags called against the Bills.

smithandrew051 02-07-2025 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17954465)
Holy shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jalen Hurts and the Eagles vs free rushers. <a href="https://t.co/IprKffTl98">pic.twitter.com/IprKffTl98</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1887967371845059048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

For all the talk of the field conditions benefiting the Chiefs last time, is it just a coincidence that Hurts had the game of his life when the pass rushes were basically nonexistent?

How does this guy have a great OL yet get sacked more than Mahomes in fewer games this year?

Answers coming on Sunday.

MahomesMagic 02-07-2025 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17954465)
Holy shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jalen Hurts and the Eagles vs free rushers. <a href="https://t.co/IprKffTl98">pic.twitter.com/IprKffTl98</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1887967371845059048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



We need a strip sack of Hurts on one of those....

wazu 02-07-2025 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17954465)
Holy shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jalen Hurts and the Eagles vs free rushers. <a href="https://t.co/IprKffTl98">pic.twitter.com/IprKffTl98</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1887967371845059048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not sure what we're supposed to take away from this. I would imagine somebody could compile a similar montage of Mahomes getting sacked.


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