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Mav 08-07-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9865195)
There was some debate over whether moving Jordan around would be acceptable in light of DJ, but since we're blindly flinging linemen all over creation, who the **** cares?

The bottom line is that few if any linemen are of the generational talent variety to warrant a high first round pick. A talented LB with a very visible mean streak can work in multiple packages, when you consider how the game has evolved. Talent is talent.

No disagreements. Many a convo happened this offseason on the browns board when they took Barkevious Mingo while having Sheard, and Kruger.

I get it. I don't pass up on talent either.

BossChief 08-07-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9865105)
I will give him that it does take a few years for linemen to "get it". But damn, don't be looking like junk if you're a 1.1.

That's a bullshit comment.

Offensive linemen don't "take years to develop" they almost always either hit the ground running or fall flat on their face and get salvaged by being moved to guard.

Branden Albert gave up 4 sacks as a rookie and handled Richard Seymour extremely well IN HIS FIRST NFL START.
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865107)
ROFL that was one play-Fish was off balance and lost his leverage.

it wasn't just one play...but go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9865129)
That's why Albert should have been traded.

It doesn't help this team, at all, to have Fisher on the right side for one season. Hell, it probably doesn't help this team, at all, to have him at right tackle, period.

Stephenson should be at right tackle, IMO.

No.

No
No

No.

That's not "why they should have traded Albert"

ITS WHY THEY SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED ANOTHER POSITION.

Our wideouts would have been damn near uncoverable if we had drafted Tavon Austin.

Flowers and Milliner?

Cordarelle Patterson and Bowe as the starters with Avery/DMC/Wylie in the slot and Cordarelle as the returner? Sick

Dion Jordan or Mingo?

**** it

If we wanted to upgrade the line...why not Cooper or Warmack?

Picking Eric Fisher was just wrong.



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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9865141)
Since we clearly drafted for need, yes. And **** you, I'll be here until the site is eradicated.


Chris Meck 08-07-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9865182)
Yeah, people poke at the 1.1 pick, but didn't 6 olinemen including 2 guards go in the top 10, and with DJ Fluker going at 12 that puts 7 in the top 12. It unfortunately was an unsexy draft.

Roger that. It's too bad. I was really hoping Geno Smith was going to be our Luck/RG3/Wilson. Unfortunately, it looks like there just wasn't a guy anywhere near that in this draft.

Maybe we get lucky with Bray. It IS pretty much the ideal situation for him.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-07-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9865198)
Nah, little kids aren't addicted to heroin. Plus, they're generally smarter than this rube.

Rube? You didn't even know who Brown was, you stupid ****! Anywho, I'm done kicking your ass here for a while.

Good day, sir.

Mav 08-07-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865192)
Austin would have be perfect paired up with Mccluster for all the double midget formations Andy loves to run.

A #1 for Austin-ROFL

I can understand the Austin thing. He returns kicks, can line up like Percy Harvin. Every where. He is just like Randall Cobb. The dude is a menace. He is going to give teams fits this year.......

People knock him for his size. Guaranteed, he is priority number one for every defense that faces the rams this year.

Chris Meck 08-07-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9865204)
If we wanted to upgrade the line...why not Cooper or Warmack?

Picking Eric Fisher was just wrong.

Not if Reid and Dorsey feel he was the best player.

Halfcan 08-07-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9865154)
yeah, Charles wasn't any good before Fisher showed up...


anyone want to tell the over/under on the next time a team drafts a RT at #1 (since it's teh new fad and all)?

1yr
5yr
10yr
20yr
never

Fish can play Both sides. Since B A was Not traded- he moved over there. They took the Best available-end of story.

And yes JC had a great year- but was stuffed for losses because of Poor blocking- far to often.

DaneMcCloud 08-07-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9865204)
No.

No
No

No.

That's not "why they should have traded Albert"

ITS WHY THEY SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED ANOTHER POSITION.

Our wideouts would have been damn near uncoverable if we had drafted Tavon Austin.

Flowers and Milliner?

Cordarelle Patterson and Bowe as the starters with Avery/DMC/Wylie in the slot and Cordarelle as the returner? Sick

Dion Jordan or Mingo?

**** it

If we wanted to upgrade the line...why not Cooper or Warmack?

Picking Eric Fisher was just wrong.

That's your opinion, not mine. Albert has been nothing but a serviceable left tackle on a very bad football team. He'll be 29 years old mid-season, so he most likely has less than 3 years before his play declines.

Dumping Albert in favor of Fisher would have been a move with an eye on the future. As it stands, it stunts Fisher's growth as a left tackle and takes up $10 million dollars in cap space.

Any way you look at it, it's a bad football decision.

Tribal Warfare 08-07-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9865205)
Roger that. It's too bad. I was really hoping Geno Smith was going to be our Luck/RG3/Wilson. Unfortunately, it looks like there just wasn't a guy anywhere near that in this draft.

Maybe we get lucky with Bray. It IS pretty much the ideal situation for him.


Then it'l be booze, waterskis, and bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Douchefactor

O.city 08-07-2013 01:50 PM

I doubt very seriously an Andy Reid led team will lead the league in rushing.

Halfcan 08-07-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9865211)
I can understand the Austin thing. He returns kicks, can line up like Percy Harvin. Every where. He is just like Randall Cobb. The dude is a menace. He is going to give teams fits this year.......

People knock him for his size. Guaranteed, he is priority number one for every defense that faces the rams this year.

We already have Dexter that can do all of the above and has already been moved around a lot in camp.

DaneMcCloud 08-07-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9865206)
Rube? You didn't even know who Brown was, you stupid ****! Anywho, I'm done kicking your ass here for a while.

Good day, sir.

Um, as a K-State fan and someone who actually attended that university, I absolutely knew about Arthur Brown.

I just couldn't understand who in the ****ing wide world would even suggest taking an inside linebacker at #1 overall.

Good grief, stop with the drugs.

Mav 08-07-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9865205)
Roger that. It's too bad. I was really hoping Geno Smith was going to be our Luck/RG3/Wilson. Unfortunately, it looks like there just wasn't a guy anywhere near that in this draft.

Maybe we get lucky with Bray. It IS pretty much the ideal situation for him.

Yeah, it is sad, and I felt bad for you guys. Talking with a Packer buddy of mine, he was asking how you guys were Taking Alex Smith, and I said that some like, some hate. It is shitty. The year before, you guys watch as the best qb draft class in 30 years goes by, and this year, you have 1.1 and there isn't a true number one in the draft class. I felt horrible for you guys. At least when the browns drafted in 1999, their were legit number ones, we just took the wrong one.

I get it. I think that Dorsey, and Reid at the end of the day said we cant find a Franchise qb, lets draft the best we can, and try to build up the rest of the roster. The price they paid shows just how little they considered the draft class, and the free agent qbs.....

Pitiful.

Hey, at least you aren't stuck with Brandon Weeden.....

BigMeatballDave 08-07-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9865206)
Rube? You didn't even know who Brown was, you stupid ****! Anywho, I'm done kicking your ass here for a while.

Good day, sir.

LMAO Dude, you have no room to talk shit about this.

Dan Saleaumua? OL? LMAO

Mav 08-07-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865223)
We already have Dexter that can do all of the above and has already been moved around a lot in camp.

That's fair now, that we are in Camp........But, there was a lot of hate directed towards DMC before the draft.......

and tavon Austin fits that explosive player mentality that the eagles had adopted with DJax, and Maclin. Not advocating, just understanding where SDH is coming from.


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