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ChiefsCountry 07-26-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13645028)
You're so kind. Thank you for offering such constructive criticism in an intelligent manner.

It's shame you weren't in Ventura's car.

OKchiefs 07-26-2018 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13645036)
It's shame you weren't in Ventura's car.

Such a nice guy. I wish you well.

Discuss Thrower 07-26-2018 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13644979)
I don't agree with his take on us winning by pure luck, but I do agree with a lot of the rest that he said. He said the Royals rested on their laurels and didn't do enough after the world series to continue to build a sustainable system. He's right. They kept all of our star players for nostalgia and basically coasted into 2016 and 2017. Fans would have been initially pissed, but if the front office had done a better job of projecting their outlook for 2016-2017 they could have easily made the decision to sell off our assets and gotten the rebuild started sooner. 2 postseasons and 3 winning seasons in 12 or so years for this regime just isn't enough. We shouldn't have to go through 7 year rebuilds every decade just to have 2-3 years of winning baseball.

K.

Dayton Moore trades Duffy, Hosmer, Moustakas and Perez for a collection of prospects before St. Patrick's Day 2016 and lets Gordon walk.

Would that be "building a sustainable system"?

ChiefsCountry 07-26-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13645052)
K.

Dayton Moore trades Duffy, Hosmer, Moustakas and Perez for a collection of prospects before St. Patrick's Day 2016 and lets Gordon walk.

Would that be "building a sustainable system"?

Yep just blow the bitch up and start from scratch to make kcchiefsus, Fangraph douchebag and Dane happy.

Even though in 2016 it was Cain and Moose being hurt and 2017 Ventura's death that caused them not to make it 4 straight playoff appearances.

OKchiefs 07-26-2018 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13645063)
Yep just blow the bitch up and start from scratch to make kcchiefsus, Fangraph douchebag and Dane happy.

Even though in 2016 it was Cain and Moose being hurt and 2017 Ventura's death that caused them not to make it 4 straight playoff appearances.

Are you okay? Why so angry?

Discuss Thrower 07-26-2018 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13645063)
Yep just blow the bitch up and start from scratch to make kcchiefsus, Fangraph douchebag and Dane happy.

Even though in 2016 it was Cain and Moose being hurt and 2017 Ventura's death that caused them not to make it 4 straight playoff appearances.

Shit, forgot about Cain.


Whatever though. The options were to either blow up the 25 man roster Loria style or let things play out as they had with the idea that a cornerstone player in Ventura isn't going to die tragically.

Mecca 07-26-2018 09:56 AM

ChiefsCountry has really turned into Dane Jr over the years he never use to post like that.

The Royals have a high payroll and a terrible team they can absolutely critiqued on how they've done things. Responding with personal insults literally answers no questions that are being posed here, it's just a deflection.

Discuss Thrower 07-26-2018 09:59 AM

Today I Learned that "high payroll" is defined as being in the bottom half of the league.

Dartgod 07-26-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13645063)
Yep just blow the bitch up and start from scratch to make kcchiefsus, Fangraph douchebag and Dane happy.

Even though in 2016 it was Cain and Moose being hurt and 2017 Ventura's death that caused them not to make it 4 straight playoff appearances.

I think BWillie is in that camp too.

Mecca 07-26-2018 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13645086)
Today I Learned that "high payroll" is defined as being in the bottom half of the league.

When your payroll is over 100 million dollars you should not hit the all star break with one of the 5 worst records in the history of baseball.

The Royals are literally marred by a ton of bad decisions yet somehow Dayton Moore shouldn't be held to the fire about, how's this make sense?

TomBarndtsTwin 07-26-2018 10:23 AM

I don't think GMDM should be immune to criticism, but to see that guy (Dan) imply that the Royals should have 'Blown things up' in either 2016 (while they were still the defending World Champs) or 2017 prior to the trade deadline, when they were actually sitting in the second Wild Card spot, is just unbelievably stupid.

I mean, it's great to have 20/20 hindsight and all, but you would have had a fan revolt if Moore traded off all the star players while they were still competing for a playoff spot.

BWillie 07-26-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13645089)
I think BWillie is in that camp too.

I didn't want them to blow things up. I wanted them to pick an identity. EITHER - go for it. Or don't. I don't like stop gaps. Either get max value from the guys you have that are controllable (other teams like that) - or go for it.

ChiTown 07-26-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13645036)
It's shame you weren't in Ventura's car.

Dude, you have become unhinged talking about this stuff. It's gonna be OK, ok?

OKchiefs 07-26-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13645151)
I didn't want them to blow things up. I wanted them to pick an identity. EITHER - go for it. Or don't. I don't like stop gaps. Either get max value from the guys you have that are controllable (other teams like that) - or go for it.

That's my take as well. If they weren't going to blow it up they should have gone all in. Instead they just stayed in the middle and basically rode the roster as it was without doing everything possible to have one last chance. Signing marginal talents like Kennedy or that stupid Padres trade obviously weren't nearly enough.

Prison Bitch 07-26-2018 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13645073)
Are you okay? Why so angry?

He's been a shithead from day 1. He was spat out his mom's ass that way, don't blame him.


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