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Sofa King 03-15-2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15586658)
Question......if we sign Trent Williams and when we get to #31....Tevin Jenkins is the BPA.

Do you put Jenkins at RT and move Niang to RG?

Williams - Thuney - ??? - Niang - Jenkins

They're trading up so i think that situation isn't in play. He'll go big for Dline.

htismaqe 03-15-2021 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 15586666)
They're trading up so i think that situation isn't in play. He'll go big for Dline.

I hope they don't go trading up in the first round. This is a deep draft. It would be better to trade up in the 2nd.

In58men 03-15-2021 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15586658)
Question......if we sign Trent Williams and when we get to #31....Tevin Jenkins is the BPA.

Do you put Jenkins at RT and move Niang to RG?

Williams - Thuney - ??? - Niang - Jenkins

What if Terrace Marshall or Bateman is there though??

MahomesMagic 03-15-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15586670)
I hope they don't go trading up in the first round. This is a deep draft. It would be better to trade up in the 2nd.

Depends how far. If Jaelan Phillips or Rashod Bateman is there in the 20's I'm mighty tempted to go get one.

You only trade up into a perceived higher tier of player.

BossChief 03-15-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15586670)
I hope they don't go trading up in the first round. This is a deep draft. It would be better to trade up in the 2nd.

I mostly agree with that, but every draft is unique.

If someone we really covet falls to the early 20s that Veach thought would be gone in the top 10 and he wants to move up for him, I’d trust his informed decision making.

The Franchise 03-15-2021 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 15586678)
What if Terrace Marshall or Bateman is there though??

I’m taking either one of those guys in that situation.

htismaqe 03-15-2021 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15586684)
Depends how far. If Jaelan Phillips or Rashod Bateman is there in the 20's I'm mighty tempted to go get one.

You only trade up into a perceived higher tier of player.

Phillips isn't a higher tier of player. His concussion history is a big red flag. I wouldn't trade up for him at all.

htismaqe 03-15-2021 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15586686)
I mostly agree with that, but every draft is unique.

If someone we really covet falls to the early 20s that Veach thought would be gone in the top 10 and he wants to move up for him, I’d trust his informed decision making.

If a top 10 guy falls to the early 20's, there's an issue.

That being said, I'm not opposed to trading up 8-10 spots. I'm not trading up farther than that for anybody.

Hammock Parties 03-15-2021 08:27 PM

Bill paying Corey Davis money for Nelson Agholor is comical LMAO

MahomesMagic 03-15-2021 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15586707)
Phillips isn't a higher tier of player. His concussion history is a big red flag. I wouldn't trade up for him at all.

His talent is. It's on Chiefs medical if they think they can get 5 years.

I look to create knockout blows.

Healthy Jaelan, Frank Clark, and Chris Jones is deadly.

Hoover 03-15-2021 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 15586666)
They're trading up so i think that situation isn't in play. He'll go big for Dline.

Hell yes and then you can go back to drafting some late round fatties here and there.

htismaqe 03-15-2021 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15586715)
His talent is. It's on Chiefs medical if they think they can get 5 years.

I look to create knockout blows.

Healthy Jaelan, Frank Clark, and Chris Jones is deadly.

So was Dee Ford's.

Knockout blows are great and all but a wild swing that misses gets you knocked the **** out.

The Franchise 03-15-2021 08:31 PM

If we get Trent Williams....then I’m all in on Bateman or Marshall in the first.

MahomesMagic 03-15-2021 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15586720)
So was Dee Ford's.

Knockout blows are great and all but a wild swing that misses gets you knocked the **** out.

Dee Ford was a one trick pony. That's why we moved on.

htismaqe 03-15-2021 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15586725)
Dee Ford was a one trick pony. That's why we moved on.

Dee Ford was broken, we should have never drafted him in the first place.

I'm not trading up for Phillips under any circumstances.


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