ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs *****OFFICIAL 2013 Kansas City Chiefs Training Camp Thread*****

Wow, I have to say I'm loving this fan forum.

Some of you guys are straight beasts. talkin bout each others mom's, **** u's, eating dicks, etc.

Damn i thought the days of being internet gangsta's were done. Half that disrespect would probably piss in their pants if they actually knew the other person on the otherside of the forum. but damn, with some its not even anger or frustration with the team. many ive been reading are just straight insulting, and nothing about the team whatsoever.

its about TC now (2013), and we goin back to days of Deberg.

Def. gonna like posting in here. :)

As some said tho, Smith is just a piece of the puzzle.

We had what 6 pro-bowlers that should be even better this year. picked up another great CB.

on O we have Smith, Bowe, Charles, maybe one or two TE's that maybe can really make some noise, and hopefully a few Wr's that can step up.

Def look forward to seeing what we can do this season, and if we've made a step in the right direction. only time will tell.

...but being how crazy some are in here, if we have a losing record in pre-season, we are doomed for the regular season...

Shut up Noob-lol

RealSNR

08-07-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865388)

So that is why you were pimping for Tavon so hard before the draft? ROFL

I don't think I heard Anyone saying him for #1- not even draft experts- but I could be wrong.

Now he is being used for an excuse to not pick Fish- classic. Rose Colored Hindsight is 20/20.

I was pimping Geno hard before the draft, but when I finally accepted the terrible fate a few days after the Alex Smith trade happened, I strongly advocated for Tavon Austin or another big time playmaker as the alternate. My order of preferences was (if we weren't going to take a QB):

1. Trade down at any cost. The #1 overall pick is worthless, so take the best offer with the extra picks and move on.

2. Sheldon Richardson

3. Tavon Austin or another WR with skills that we currently lack

4. Dion Jordan, Dee Milliner, or another defensive player from the top 15 who fills a hole for us

5. Fisher + Albert trade

6. Just Fisher

7. Joeckel

Halfcan

08-07-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9865386)

Do you really think that Kaeps productivity isn't similar to that of a first round QB? Do you think that there aren't several teams for not selecting him in the first round?

Yes and several wanted to draft him on here. But the Chiefs felt Brady Quit could do the job-lol :(

DaneMcCloud

08-07-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865388)

There were four guys that should have been considered at 1.1, IMO.

Fisher, Austin, Mingo and Richardson.

There were a few people (myself included) that suggested Austin. I really liked Mingo as a person and his production, size and speed could have easily justified him as 1.1.

IIRC, Sorter was a big fan of Richardson and IMO, the Jets d-line will be among the best in the league with his addition.

Milliner, IMO, should never have been in the discussion at 1.1, nor should have Warmack, Cooper or Smith.

BossChief

08-07-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9865353)

I don't think it's "Rose Colored Glasses", it's that not everyone knows about guys like Tavon Austin.

On the surface, they appear to be similar players and that's what most people see.

FWIW, Halfcan's a good dude. There's no reason to insult him because he doesn't know the diff between Austin and McCluster.

This is ChiefsPlanet. If you "don't know about guys like Austin" then don't put your foot in your mouth.

No difference than belittling SDH about Brown.

Jersey49chief

08-07-2013 03:05 PM

Thanks

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9865396)

BTW... Clay still trying to pass off using the 2011 rankings LMAO

I was gonna say looking at the stat sheet, where did he get those... not nfl.com or anything. and thanks i was like they looked pretty old...

I will say this with S. Smith. maybe we can agree that the 49ers have a pretty good defense, so when i heard that the Eagles, Chiefs, 49ers, and Bucs were going after him. I'd say the main team, the 49ers wanted him and didnt get him.

so stats aside, pretty telling if an almost winning SB team wanted to pick him up.

Hammock Parties

08-07-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9865395)

Hey Clay... how does PFF rank Alex Smith?

#1 in the league.....in sack percentage.

Looking forward to 50 sacks this year!

Jersey49chief

08-07-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865406)

Shut up Noob-lol

LMAO... all in good fun brotha....:thumb:

Marcellus

08-07-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9865372)

thats been my argument, should have just taken whatever CB, FS, DL, or Tavon Austin @ 1 if there was plans to keep Albert.

Donald Stephenson can start in this league this year, so by next year we better have a spot for him.

I actually agree with this post though I don't think the original plan was to keep Albert. The market was softer than they expected I think. I wanted to go defense once it was obvious there wasn't a QB worth taking near 1.1 and it wasn't going to happen.

That being said I'm lol'ing at the people suggesting Fisher is going to struggle.

He was widely considered to be cream of the crop in this draft. Not by Chiefs fans (insert gif) but by draft experts.

Yea he could end up being a bust, every single player has that potential, but its very highly unlikely.

The Fisher hatred is just butt hurt.

Hammock Parties

08-07-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey49chief (Post 9865417)

I was gonna say looking at the stat sheet, where did he get those... not nfl.com or anything. and thanks i was like they looked pretty old...

Take your pick.

2011 - worst CB in football
2012 - allowed more first downs than anyone

Sounds like a guy who can really play CB at a high level.

Marcellus

08-07-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9865418)

#1 in the league.....in sack percentage.

Looking forward to 50 sacks this year!

Clay you aren't going to make it to week 4 before you pass yourself going the other direction.

O.city

08-07-2013 03:07 PM

I would have rather taken Sheldon Richardson, but there wasn't any "playmakers" polished enough to be worth the pick. There will inevitably be some come from this draft but none were "worth" the first pick

Sorter

08-07-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865408)

Yes and several wanted to draft him on here. But the Chiefs felt Brady Quit could do the job-lol :(

Kaepernick was drafted before Brady Quinn was a member of the Chiefs.

Marcellus

08-07-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9865421)

Take your pick.

2011 - worst CB in football
2012 - allowed more first downs than anyone

Sounds like a guy who can really play CB at a high level.

Where was Brandon Flowers ranked last year?

Halfcan

08-07-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9865407)

Okay so by your own list your #1 option was to trade out that nobody was worth- that includes tavon. Then you have Richardson ahead of him as well. But yet you are critisizing me that I didn't think it would have been smart to take him #1? :hmmm: I guess I am confused by your logic.

Yes he might end up being the stud of the draft adn if the Chiefs took him- could have been awesome-but they didn't.

Time to let it go-Fish is the Pick and has been for a LONG time now. lol

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