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MagicHef 04-25-2019 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14226668)
Hmmm ...

That Melisandre, Azor Ahai, Lightbringer theory seems pretty solid. I dig it.

FAX

It does seem pretty solid. The only issue I have is that Azor Ahai loved Nissa Nissa, making her death a sacrifice. Jon does not love Melisandre.

Also: Melisandre is consistently wrong, especially about specific identities. She may very well be correct about the sacrifice mechanics, but be incorrect about who it is that will be sacrificed.

Clyde Frog 04-25-2019 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 14227694)
It does seem pretty solid. The only issue I have is that Azor Ahai loved Nissa Nissa, making her death a sacrifice. Jon does not love Melisandre.

You know who Jon does Love and who has not been portrayed in the best light (pun intended) recently?

MagicHef 04-25-2019 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Clyde Frog (Post 14227710)
You know who Jon does Love and who has not been portrayed in the best light (pun intended) recently?

I know who you're referring to. However, I think Jon loves Arya more than anyone.

Setsuna 04-25-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 14227721)
I know who you're referring to. However, I think Jon loves Arya more than anyone.

Agreed.

The Franchise 04-25-2019 10:39 AM

Dany has to sacrifice herself so that Jon can use her heart to create Lightbringer to stop the NK.

RustShack 04-25-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 14227694)
It does seem pretty solid. The only issue I have is that Azor Ahai loved Nissa Nissa, making her death a sacrifice. Jon does not love Melisandre.

Also: Melisandre is consistently wrong, especially about specific identities. She may very well be correct about the sacrifice mechanics, but be incorrect about who it is that will be sacrificed.

She misinterpreted signs, wasn’t necessary “wrong”. Stannis wasn’t the price who was promised, but he was needed to save Jon, the Wall, and so on. Her Kings blood magic worked, even when melting the snow. You could tell she felt something stronger in Jon when she met him.

notorious 04-25-2019 11:21 AM

I don’t think it was a coincidence the red witch was mentioned before Arya popped her cherry.

BleedingRed 04-25-2019 11:26 AM

Strategically a stand at Winterfell is reeruned. It would have been much smarter had Jon moved the people of the north south....

-Leave a delaying force at Moat Cailin
-And used the River Lands to dictate engagements.......

Silly idiots

Chiefspants 04-25-2019 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14227982)
Strategically a stand at Winterfell is reeruned. It would have been much smarter had Jon moved the people of the north south....

-Leave a delaying force at Moat Cailin
-And used the River Lands to dictate engagements.......

Silly idiots

Pretty clear from the books that this fight will be near the Trident imo.

Loneiguana 04-25-2019 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14227982)
Strategically a stand at Winterfell is reeruned. It would have been much smarter had Jon moved the people of the north south....

-Leave a delaying force at Moat Cailin
-And used the River Lands to dictate engagements.......

Silly idiots

Its why I suspect the NK will just go around them. (Danny's vision of the red keep in ruins is from him attacking it with his dragon) The large force is feint. Why attack a strong, fortified position with an army that doesn't sleep, doesn't tire, doesn't need to eat. Either starve them out or just leave them sitting there and go on your way. But limited episodes, so who knows.)

Yes Yes, the producers gave us that 'excuse' that the NK is after Bran specifically, but again, why the rush (again, I know, limited episodes)?

Either way, there is definitely a twist coming (Martin laid out 3 big ones for the producers..... Shireen, Hodor, and one we haven't seen yet.)

Does Cersei offer her baby to the NK, as Caster had did, to be left alone?
Does the Red Witch show up and deus ex machina the whole thing? (Don't know if that's a twist, depends on what happens)
Does the NK die, just to have someone take his place? (Is there a continuation of his species aspect to the NK?)

BleedingRed 04-25-2019 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Loneiguana (Post 14228199)
Its why I suspect the NK will just go around them. (Danny's vision of the red keep in ruins is from him attacking it with his dragon) The large force is feint. Why attack a strong, fortified position with an army that doesn't sleep, doesn't tire, doesn't need to eat. Either starve them out or just leave them sitting there and go on your way. But limited episodes, so who knows.)

Yes Yes, the producers gave us that 'excuse' that the NK is after Bran specifically, but again, why the rush (again, I know, limited episodes)?

Either way, there is definitely a twist coming (Martin laid out 3 big ones for the producers..... Shireen, Hodor, and one we haven't seen yet.)

Does Cersei offer her baby to the NK, as Caster had did, to be left alone?
Does the Red Witch show up and deus ex machina the whole thing? (Don't know if that's a twist, depends on what happens)
Does the NK die, just to have someone take his place? (Is there a continuation of his species aspect to the NK?)

I think the golden company switches sides, I also wouldn't be surprised to see Dario show back up or be the reason Golden Company switches.

ChiefBlueCFC 04-25-2019 01:59 PM

I finally caught up on this last night after starting it in February!

ChiefBlueCFC 04-25-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14227982)
Strategically a stand at Winterfell is reeruned. It would have been much smarter had Jon moved the people of the north south....

-Leave a delaying force at Moat Cailin
-And used the River Lands to dictate engagements.......

Silly idiots

you know what pissed me off... when they went north to get one of the dead to prove to Cersei, and Daenerys flew in on her dragaons. She landed and everyone in the party was getting on the dragon and Jon's like nahhhhh I gotta personally fight 16 more dead for XP so I can level up! It's not like the ****ing dragon couldn't have covered him as he got on it. Then one of the dragons might not be on the side of the dead.

I mean, I get then the story would be a lot shorter and its not the way the story plays out... but goddamn that pissed me off unreasonably.

DrRyan 04-25-2019 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14228477)
I think the golden company switches sides, I also wouldn't be surprised to see Dario show back up or be the reason Golden Company switches.

The Dario reprise would be awesome. There definitely are Golden Company switching sides theories out there but not sure it happens. Just so little time left in the show. They definitely have played up (in the books even more) that they have never broken a contract. Along with the Targaryen/Blackfyre connection, which would seem to do anything but ingratiate the GC to the Targaryen side. I could see it going either way...

ThaVirus 04-25-2019 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14227982)
Strategically a stand at Winterfell is reeruned. It would have been much smarter had Jon moved the people of the north south....

-Leave a delaying force at Moat Cailin
-And used the River Lands to dictate engagements.......

Silly idiots

The wight army isn't one you can take potshots at here and there. Every time you face them, you get weaker and they get stronger.

It makes sense to hole up in a fortified castle and make a final stand. I'm sure they'd all like to be chilling in Dorne with a unified seven kingdoms, but obviously it didn't work out that way.


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