ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs *****OFFICIAL 2013 Kansas City Chiefs Training Camp Thread*****

There were four guys that should have been considered at 1.1, IMO.

Fisher, Austin, Mingo and Richardson.

There were a few people (myself included) that suggested Austin. I really liked Mingo as a person and his production, size and speed could have easily justified him as 1.1.

IIRC, Sorter was a big fan of Richardson and IMO, the Jets d-line will be among the best in the league with his addition.

Milliner, IMO, should never have been in the discussion at 1.1, nor should have Warmack, Cooper or Smith.

Mingo would have been a pick I'd agree with as well.

O.city

08-07-2013 03:11 PM

I gotta say half can and sdh are neck and neck in terms of football knowledge

Halfcan

08-07-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9865428)

Kaepernick was drafted before Brady Quinn was a member of the Chiefs.

I would have loved if the Chiefs got him- but they didn't. Hell we could have drafted Tom Brady too but we didn't.

DeezNutz

08-07-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9865426)

I would have rather taken Sheldon Richardson, but there wasn't any "playmakers" polished enough to be worth the pick. There will inevitably be some come from this draft but none were "worth" the first pick

There wasn't an OT "worth" the first pick, either, but that didn't stop anyone. Look, no one mocked the Rams for taking Austin #8 overall. Therefore, there's nothing wrong with taking him 1/1.

Hammock Parties

08-07-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9865429)

Where was Brandon Flowers ranked last year?

Near the top. Why is this even a question? ROFL

Jersey49chief

08-07-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9865421)

Take your pick.

2011 - worst CB in football
2012 - allowed more first downs than anyone

Sounds like a guy who can really play CB at a high level.

Oh well since u only took some of the posting that i said... dont forget the part where i said the almost SB winning 49ers went after Smith hard, and would of loved to have him sign. as well as the eagles, bucs, and cards... but main point was if the 49ers went after him hard, he cant be too bad.

Let me ask u this, which one means more to u ??

tons of stats, or putting up W's on the board ??

ive been a part of a few other fan forums, and they wouldn't admit it,

but a qb throws for lets say 225yds, 2tds and a win....

then another throws for 300-400yds, 4-5 td's and they lose,

and i swear you'd think they would rather had lost the game, and just had their fantasy pts. up... crazy

Rausch

08-07-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9865407)

I was pimping Geno hard before the draft, but when I finally accepted the terrible fate a few days after the Alex Smith trade happened, I strongly advocated for Tavon Austin or another big time playmaker as the alternate. My order of preferences was (if we weren't going to take a QB):

1. Trade down at any cost. The #1 overall pick is worthless, so take the best offer with the extra picks and move on.

2. Sheldon Richardson

3. Tavon Austin or another WR with skills that we currently lack

4. Dion Jordan, Dee Milliner, or another defensive player from the top 15 who fills a hole for us

5. Fisher + Albert trade

6. Just Fisher

7. Joeckel

Once it was clear we weren't going Geno I would have preferred what the Raiders did. Take less than value to move down and get our 2nd back.

Warmack or Milliner (after a trade down) would have been nice but after signing two CB's that wasn't going to happen.

Halfcan

08-07-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9865437)

I gotta say half can and sdh are neck and neck in terms of football knowledge

I guess I should just keep crying about the past forever like you guys. :deevee:

Oh the chiefs should have done this or that or drafted so and so. It never ends. Every day, every thread :deevee:

This is a Training camp thread- not a Alex and Fisher sucks thread. Think of something new to cry about will ya.

Hammock Parties

08-07-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey49chief (Post 9865446)

Let me ask u this, which one means more to u ??

tons of stats, or putting up W's on the board ??

Alex Smith has two wins for his ENTIRE CAREER against teams that scored 24 or more points.

That's worse than our last QB.

He's not winning shit here.

Hammock Parties

08-07-2013 03:17 PM

Brandon Flowers gave up 22 first downs and TDs combined last year...Sean Smith gave up 46....that should give you an idea of the vast chasm in ability between these two CBs.

RealSNR

08-07-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865432)

Okay so by your own list your #1 option was to trade out that nobody was worth- that includes tavon. Then you have Richardson ahead of him as well. But yet you are critisizing me that I didn't think it would have been smart to take him #1? :hmmm: I guess I am confused by your logic.

Yes he might end up being the stud of the draft adn if the Chiefs took him- could have been awesome-but they didn't.

Time to let it go-Fish is the Pick and has been for a LONG time now. lol

Tavon wasn't my first preference in 2013, no. Eric Berry wasn't my first preference in 2010, either.

That doesn't mean Berry was a shitty pick, and it clearly doesn't mean I don't think Austin was worth the #1 overall. In THIS particular draft year and with no hope of taking a QB at that spot, he absolutely would have been a good player to take at #1 overall.

A HELL of a lot better pick than taking an offensive lineman who isn't even as talented as the top offensive tackle from the year before, who was not picked at #1 overall. THAT'S taking a loss with the pick even more than trading down. Especially when we've already got a pretty damn good starting LT that we franchise tagged.

-King-

08-07-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9865421)

Take your pick.

2011 - worst CB in football
2012 - allowed more first downs than anyone

Sounds like a guy who can really play CB at a high level.

ROFL

BTW, that 2011 ranking has him ranked 42nd right? There are 64 starting CBs in the NFL. How would he be the worst CB in football?

Troll harder mane.

Sweet Daddy Hate

08-07-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9865214)

Not if Reid and Dorsey feel he was the best player.

Well shit, there we have it. Reid and Dorsey have spoken. Let's all just shut the **** up now and accept our forthcoming shit sandwich!

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9865221)

Then it'l be booze, waterskis, and bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Douchefactor

We can only hope.

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865223)

We already have Dexter that can do all of the above and has already been moved around a lot in camp.

Dexter needs to get his ****ing shine box, Jimmy, and GTFO.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9865224)

Um, as a K-State fan and someone who actually attended that university, I absolutely knew about Arthur Brown.

I just couldn't understand who in the ****ing wide world would even suggest taking an inside linebacker at #1 overall.

Good grief, stop with the drugs.

Someone let you in to a college? JFC, there are no standards.

-King-

08-07-2013 03:19 PM

The good news is that we got rid of Brandon Carr. That piece of shit was ranked even lower than Sean Smith on PFF.

O.city

08-07-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865448)

Where have I cried about these things?

I stated that I would have rather taken Richardson but I'd hardly consider that crying.

But carry on

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