Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 13646741)

Beat me to it.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13646751)

Yeah and honestly I'd argue at this point the trade deadline isn't the area to add talent that it used to be. It's basically turned into a garage sale where teams trade off their expiring contracts for low level prospects.

At this point you might be better off waiting until the winter meetings when everyone's looking to make moves and not the 12 teams who are in playoff contention.

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13646746)

I'd take that as an explanation for a single year, but this has been the case his entire tenure. I find it hard to believe that we've never had good offers for our valuable players. Moore got the same criticism back before the world series teams. I think he repeatedly overvalues our players.

I also expect that if we hold on to Whit that he'll play okay the next couple of years and then start to decline around the age of 32-33 when he loses his greatest strength (athleticism). Then he will have lost any value he had and we still will not have had a winning season. I expect a similar trajectory for Danny Duffy.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13646755)

We've been in the playoff race every year for the last five years. Why would he be trading off guys? Other than that, who should he have traded off? Soria is probably the only guy he missed out trading. He sent off Greinke with no problem, but that was in the offseason. I don't understand this argument at all. Dayton's biggest strength may be he's made some real solid trades in the offseason.

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 13646749)

If they do, Royals should try and pick him up for nothing. Work with, reclaim some of his value and possibly flip him at trade deadline next year for another prospect.

This is a no lose proposition with where the Royals are right now.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13646772)

BAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

A) He's a pending FA.

B) You said 'value' in the same sentence as that washed up piece of trash. Seriously - Mike Maddux is among the better pitching coaches in baseball. Our manager was a reerun but our pitching coach is damn good. The problem isn't 'coaching him up'.

The problem is that Greg Holland is a lazy ****stain who can/should get hit by a goddamn bus for all I care. Seriously - go take a look at the guy in a uniform and let me know if you can recognize him through the extra 30 lbs and 2 chins he's carrying around.

That piece of shit sat ass the entire off-season just dead certain he was going to get a long-term deal. It didn't come together and he had to scramble for a make-good deal. And since he sat ass, he made it to the team in miserable shape and was generally gassed after about 6 pitches (most of which were nowhere near the zone).

You can go ahead and appreciate Greg Holland for what he did for you all you want - that's cool. But that guy is absolutely among the laziest sacks of shit I've seen in a long time. He didn't wait to get paid before lounging around during the offseason. He went ahead and lounged around in the offseason presuming he was going to get paid.

**** him in his face.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13646772)

BAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!



A) He's a pending FA.



B) You said 'value' in the same sentence as that washed up piece of trash. Seriously - Mike Maddux is among the better pitching coaches in baseball. Our manager was a reerun but our pitching coach is damn good. The problem isn't 'coaching him up'.



The problem is that Greg Holland is a lazy ****stain who can/should get hit by a goddamn bus for all I care. Seriously - go take a look at the guy in a uniform and let me know if you can recognize him through the extra 30 lbs and 2 chins he's carrying around.



That piece of shit sat ass the entire off-season just dead certain he was going to get a long-term deal. It didn't come together and he had to scramble for a make-good deal. And since he sat ass, he made it to the team in miserable shape and was generally gassed after about 6 pitches (most of which were nowhere near the zone).



You can go ahead and appreciate Greg Holland for what he did for you all you want - that's cool. But that guy is absolutely among the laziest sacks of shit I've seen in a long time. He didn't wait to get paid before lounging around during the offseason. He went ahead and lounged around in the offseason presuming he was going to get paid.



**** him in his face.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13646772)

BAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

A) He's a pending FA.

B) You said 'value' in the same sentence as that washed up piece of trash. Seriously - Mike Maddux is among the better pitching coaches in baseball. Our manager was a reerun but our pitching coach is damn good. The problem isn't 'coaching him up'.

The problem is that Greg Holland is a lazy ****stain who can/should get hit by a goddamn bus for all I care. Seriously - go take a look at the guy in a uniform and let me know if you can recognize him through the extra 30 lbs and 2 chins he's carrying around.

That piece of shit sat ass the entire off-season just dead certain he was going to get a long-term deal. It didn't come together and he had to scramble for a make-good deal. And since he sat ass, he made it to the team in miserable shape and was generally gassed after about 6 pitches (most of which were nowhere near the zone).

You can go ahead and appreciate Greg Holland for what he did for you all you want - that's cool. But that guy is absolutely among the laziest sacks of shit I've seen in a long time. He didn't wait to get paid before lounging around during the offseason. He went ahead and lounged around in the offseason presuming he was going to get paid.

**** him in his face.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13646772)

BAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

A) He's a pending FA.

B) You said 'value' in the same sentence as that washed up piece of trash. Seriously - Mike Maddux is among the better pitching coaches in baseball. Our manager was a reerun but our pitching coach is damn good. The problem isn't 'coaching him up'.

The problem is that Greg Holland is a lazy ****stain who can/should get hit by a goddamn bus for all I care. Seriously - go take a look at the guy in a uniform and let me know if you can recognize him through the extra 30 lbs and 2 chins he's carrying around.

That piece of shit sat ass the entire off-season just dead certain he was going to get a long-term deal. It didn't come together and he had to scramble for a make-good deal. And since he sat ass, he made it to the team in miserable shape and was generally gassed after about 6 pitches (most of which were nowhere near the zone).

You can go ahead and appreciate Greg Holland for what he did for you all you want - that's cool. But that guy is absolutely among the laziest sacks of shit I've seen in a long time. He didn't wait to get paid before lounging around during the offseason. He went ahead and lounged around in the offseason presuming he was going to get paid.

**** him in his face.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13646772)

BAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

A) He's a pending FA.

B) You said 'value' in the same sentence as that washed up piece of trash. Seriously - Mike Maddux is among the better pitching coaches in baseball. Our manager was a reerun but our pitching coach is damn good. The problem isn't 'coaching him up'.

The problem is that Greg Holland is a lazy ****stain who can/should get hit by a goddamn bus for all I care. Seriously - go take a look at the guy in a uniform and let me know if you can recognize him through the extra 30 lbs and 2 chins he's carrying around.

That piece of shit sat ass the entire off-season just dead certain he was going to get a long-term deal. It didn't come together and he had to scramble for a make-good deal. And since he sat ass, he made it to the team in miserable shape and was generally gassed after about 6 pitches (most of which were nowhere near the zone).

You can go ahead and appreciate Greg Holland for what he did for you all you want - that's cool. But that guy is absolutely among the laziest sacks of shit I've seen in a long time. He didn't wait to get paid before lounging around during the offseason. He went ahead and lounged around in the offseason presuming he was going to get paid.

**** him in his face.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13646228)

They just announced that Judge is out for at least 3 weeks. Brilliant move, knock Judge out so they trade for Moose.

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13646829)

Where would you rank him on the hate scale between a 1-Brandon Moss

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13647114)

Eduardo Escobar traded to Arizona, one fewer option for a trade partner.

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 13647150)

One less tradeble asset to compete against.