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Dunerdr 01-17-2025 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17914007)
We attempted more mid and long range passes against Pitt and Houston than we did against SD when Humphries played 85% of the game.

All these narratives that Thuney hurt the long passing game, caused a smaller playbook and hurt the run game are all bunk not supported by the actual stats.

No one said he hurt it. The clearly had lower time to throw. Not depth of target.

Shields68 01-17-2025 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17913978)
I've watched those games more than once. The play calling was obviously different.

Sure, but it corresponded with a healthy Hollywood and the natural expansion of Worthy's use. Which has to factor in. Not to mention the teams we faced.

Dunerdr 01-17-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17914014)
Sure, but it corresponded with a healthy Hollywood and the natural expansion of Worthy's use. Which has to factor in. Not to mention the teams we faced.

It also corresponds with a guard at tackle. I have no issue with thuney starting but let’s not act like sticking with him changed the facts.

Iconic 01-17-2025 11:36 AM

Honestly surprised. Figured they'd at least give Humphries a go of it.

But yeah, trust in Reid. If he didn't feel it was worth a try with Humphries after all the practice they have had - it's got to be for good reason.

htismaqe 01-17-2025 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17914014)
Sure, but it corresponded with a healthy Hollywood and the natural expansion of Worthy's use. Which has to factor in. Not to mention the teams we faced.

It absolutely factors in when you watch the routes they ran and the drops they took to get the ball out.

It's moot at this point, looks like Thuney is going to start. Onwards and upwards.

Shields68 01-17-2025 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17914017)
It also corresponds with a guard at tackle. I have no issue with thuney starting but let’s not act like sticking with him changed the facts.

My comment was, I do not see the change being 100% on Thuney. I think who ever played tackle would have had the same offense. Brown helps them run a quick passing attack offense. He is able to do things Watson is not able to do. Worthy also has been progressing. I think they are going to turn both of them loose in the playoffs and catch a lot of teams by surprise.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-17-2025 11:43 AM

Humphries must not have shown it in practice. That's all I can think about this decision.

htismaqe 01-17-2025 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17914031)
My comment was, I do not see the change being 100% on Thuney. I think who ever played tackle would have had the same offense. Brown helps them run a quick passing attack offense. He is able to do things Watson is not able to do. Worthy also has been progressing. I think they are going to turn both of them loose in the playoffs and catch a lot of teams by surprise.

Dude, we watched like 13 games before Thuney took over. Sure, it wasn't the only thing that changed but there was a massive shift in philosophy the minute Thuney moved. They were doing things for him that they didn't really even attempt with the other guys.

The difference is plainly visible when watching the games.

Hammock Parties 01-17-2025 11:44 AM

So we're getting shut out now right?

I mean our offense is SO EASY TO DEFEND now CHRIST!

Shields68 01-17-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17914023)
It absolutely factors in when you watch the routes they ran and the drops they took to get the ball out.

It's moot at this point, looks like Thuney is going to start. Onwards and upwards.

Thuney did a good job against some top flight DE's. He did not get beat by speed. Which was killing us prior to him going to LT. He did get over powered a few times. But even then Patrick had time to get the ball out, it was never the oh shit I totally mised .5 second sack. Which I do not think Humphries is moving at 100% and did allow in Denver game.

Shields68 01-17-2025 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17914033)
Dude, we watched like 13 games before Thuney took over. Sure, it wasn't the only thing that changed but there was a massive shift in philosophy the minute Thuney moved. They were doing things for him that they didn't really even attempt with the other guys.

The difference is plainly visible when watching the games.

It also coincided with getting a player back which allowed those "new" things to be effective and starting to turn Worthy loose (which is about the same time they turned Rice loose last year)

htismaqe 01-17-2025 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17914035)
So we're getting shut out now right?

I mean our offense is SO EASY TO DEFEND now CHRIST!

There's that hyperbole we all expected.

New World Order 01-17-2025 11:50 AM

Thuney can give us Eric Fisher tackle-like play

htismaqe 01-17-2025 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17914041)
It also coincided with getting a player back which allowed those "new" things to be effective and starting to turn Worthy loose (which is about the same time they turned Rice loose last year)

You're right. Many things contributed. But the fact they did different things for Thuney is a fact.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-17-2025 11:51 AM

I would like to point out that Andrew Wylie according to one of our fellow CP posters "blew goats" at RT and we rode him all the way to a SB in 2022.

We can do this. We can make it work.


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