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duncan_idaho 07-27-2018 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13647448)
You're right again, we haven't had many opportunities. But, I'll say again (and someone will accuse me of moving the goalposts), we'd have more big time players to move if Moore hadn't been so awful at finding talent in the draft.



What I'm angry at right now is seeing Mike Moustakas likely walking for nothing after this season. The word on twitter has been that the Yankees are interested but that the asking price is too high. Lowering the asking price on a player you're about to lose is better than getting nothing at all.



I shouldn't get mad about something that hasn't happened yet, but I have zero faith that Moore will trade Duffy and Merrifield in the offseason, which absolutely should happen. I don't think Moore has any real direction he's going in, besides taking almost all college pitchers on the false premise that we can expedite the rebuild and contend in 2020-2021 (we can't). I feel like a more involved owner would put pressure on their GM to see results, however I think Glass is pretty aloof from the day to day operations as long as he keeps making money. With the new TV contract coming soon Glass is going to get some nice big paychecks, so I'm afraid the on field crap we'll see for the next 4-5 years won't be enough to motivate Glass to give Moore any ultimatums on returning to competitive baseball.


And I’ll say again that you don’t trade big valuable pieces when you’re in a contention cycle.

They could have gotten a ton for Gordon in 2012. Or Shields after 2013. Or Hosmer, Cain, Moustakas, Ventura, Perez, Duffy, Davis, Herrera after 2015.

I want them to trade Moustakas, too, but it also balances against the return. If the return is organizational filler, I have no problem keeping him. I don’t think they’re in that type of market for him right now, but the return has to be something that at least has a chance to help you down the road.

I understand your fears. I think we’ll see at least one of Merrifield/Duffy moved. But time will tell.

Strongside 07-27-2018 08:43 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OF Brett Phillips a healthy scratch tonight for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brewers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Brewers</a>’ Triple A affiliate. Per sources, he is one of prospects in play in MIL’s talks with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> about Mike Moustakas. Also was part of MIL’s talks with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Orioles</a> about Manny Machado, and those teams remain in discussions.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1023026499073581056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Twitter is abuzz over Moose to the Brewers right now.

tk13 07-27-2018 08:44 PM

Major buzz on Twitter about the Royals and Brewers and Moose. If we got Brett Phillips out of it I would be ecstatic.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OF Brett Phillips a healthy scratch tonight for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brewers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Brewers</a>’ Triple A affiliate. Per sources, he is one of prospects in play in MIL’s talks with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> about Mike Moustakas. Also was part of MIL’s talks with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Orioles</a> about Manny Machado, and those teams remain in discussions.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1023026499073581056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Strongside 07-27-2018 08:44 PM

Jinx biiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch

OKchiefs 07-27-2018 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13647582)
Major buzz on Twitter about the Royals and Brewers and Moose. If we got Brett Phillips out of it I would be ecstatic.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OF Brett Phillips a healthy scratch tonight for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brewers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Brewers</a>’ Triple A affiliate. Per sources, he is one of prospects in play in MIL’s talks with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> about Mike Moustakas. Also was part of MIL’s talks with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Orioles</a> about Manny Machado, and those teams remain in discussions.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1023026499073581056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Damn, I'll come off as a huge whiny bitch if he gets traded after all of my bitching. Oh well.

However, the Brewers have also been in talks with the Orioles about either Gausman or their 2B (can't remember his name), so it's possible it's involved with that trade as well. I hope it's Moose though, reunite him with Cain.

tk13 07-27-2018 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13647584)
Jinx biiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch

LMAO You got me.

Seriously though, Dayton would win the trade deadline with that move. That would probably be the first move of this deadline where I feel like the team giving up the veteran actually won the trade. I guess the Padres maybe, but they gave up about 8 years of quality relief pitching to get the Indians best prospect.

It'd be fun to see Moose and Cain back together, although I still think it's a questionable move for the Brewers. Shaw at 2B? Doesn't seem like a good idea. Phillips is a legit ML outfielder with an absolute rocket launcher on his right shoulder.

tk13 07-27-2018 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13647593)
Damn, I'll come off as a huge whiny bitch if he gets traded after all of my bitching. Oh well.

However, the Brewers have also been in talks with the Orioles about either Gausman or their 2B (can't remember his name), so it's possible it's involved with that trade as well. I hope it's Moose though, reunite him with Cain.

The fact that so many national writers are tweeting about Phillips being out and hinting that they're in talks about Moustakas is awfully fishy though. This is what they all do when they know something but can't officially say they know something.

Strongside 07-27-2018 09:08 PM

I would be overjoyed with that trade.

TomBarndtsTwin 07-27-2018 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13647593)
Damn, I'll come off as a huge whiny bitch if he gets traded after all of my bitching. Oh well

Relax.

You already come off as a huge whiny bitch, regardless of what happens with Moustakas.

lewdog 07-27-2018 09:13 PM

You're a fan of the Royals.

You aren't going to get year after year of competitive baseball.

Some dumb mother****ers in this thread.

OKchiefs 07-27-2018 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 13647614)
Relax.

You already come off as a huge whiny bitch, regardless of what happens with Moustakas.

This is true

Strongside 07-27-2018 10:33 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source: The Royals have agreed to a deal with the Brewers for Mike Moustakas for Minor Leaguers Brett Phillips and Jorge Lopez.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/1023063194166808576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Strongside 07-27-2018 10:33 PM

**** yes. Great value.

KChiefs1 07-27-2018 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13647582)
Major buzz on Twitter about the Royals and Brewers and Moose. If we got Brett Phillips out of it I would be ecstatic.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OF Brett Phillips a healthy scratch tonight for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brewers?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Brewers</a>’ Triple A affiliate. Per sources, he is one of prospects in play in MIL’s talks with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> about Mike Moustakas. Also was part of MIL’s talks with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Orioles</a> about Manny Machado, and those teams remain in discussions.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1023026499073581056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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HR trade.

KChiefs1 07-27-2018 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13647681)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source: The Royals have agreed to a deal with the Brewers for Mike Moustakas for Minor Leaguers Brett Phillips and Jorge Lopez.</p>— Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/1023063194166808576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



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