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CaliforniaChief 03-01-2016 11:16 AM

At the end of the day (or contract), every player's going to want top dollar.

But this was a good way for the Royals to add control and gain a sense of trust. The Gordon/Perez deals will go over very well in the clubhouse.

Again, not saying this gets Hosmer any closer to a deal, but I think it's a good move. Is there a more respected front office inside baseball than ours? I mean, even Scott Boras likes working with us.

CaliforniaChief 03-01-2016 11:17 AM

2 added years of control.

duncan_idaho 03-01-2016 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12107069)
Do we get more years of control? I thought they just turn the last 2 club option years into guaranteed years.


Previous team options ran through 2019. This adds two years to the deal.

suzzer99 03-01-2016 11:18 AM

Awesome!

Halfcan 03-01-2016 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12107059)
Barring a minor miracle, he and Moose are both going to test free agency. They don't have midwest ties like Gordon did, nor were they locked into a very team-friendly deal like Salvy.


Mike Moustakas agreed to a two-year, $14.3 million contract with the Kansas City Royals on Thursday to avoid arbitration, Jon Heyman of MLB Network reports.

They just gave Moose a big pay raise. If he continues to keep improving- I bet they won't let him go. Same with Hosmer.

These guys are Big fish in a little pond. This is home. They would most likely get more money elsewhere-but would be just another player. Money isn't everything.

duncan_idaho 03-01-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12107059)
Barring a minor miracle, he and Moose are both going to test free agency. They don't have midwest ties like Gordon did, nor were they locked into a very team-friendly deal like Salvy.


I've long expected them to leave as free agents, with maybe an outside chance at keeping Moustakas.

Because the team keeps surprising me, I think I have adjusted the likelihood of them staying in KC up a few notches.

Keeping Perez, Hosmer, and Moustakas together for five more years (and incorporating younger players at the positions that require major athleticism - CF and SS) doesn't seem impossible at this point.

Nightfyre 03-01-2016 12:05 PM

Duncan, don't let the recent success fool you! Expectations management is critical to weathering the long droughts KC sports brings.

alnorth 03-01-2016 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12107122)
Mike Moustakas agreed to a two-year, $14.3 million contract with the Kansas City Royals on Thursday to avoid arbitration, Jon Heyman of MLB Network reports.

They just gave Moose a big pay raise. If he continues to keep improving- I bet they won't let him go. Same with Hosmer.

These guys are Big fish in a little pond. This is home. They would most likely get more money elsewhere-but would be just another player. Money isn't everything.

Buying out arbitration years really doesn't mean anything to me re: willingness to sign long-term. Its low risk for the player to add a bit of security for years where he's stuck with the team in case he has a bad year and is staring at an unpleasant arbitration hearing.

Scott Boras believes that even if you want to stay with your team, even if you want to give them a discount, you should still test free agency to find out what you are worth. Then you can go back to your team and say "I found out that I'm actually worth X. I'll give you a discount of Y, but you gotta at least do that much"

frozenchief 03-01-2016 12:20 PM

A bit off topic but Justice Sotomayor referenced the "World Champion Kansas City Royals" in a Supreme Court opinion today:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...-8358_o7jp.pdf

Nice to see the Royals recognized in legal opinions.

duncan_idaho 03-01-2016 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 12107176)
Duncan, don't let the recent success fool you! Expectations management is critical to weathering the long droughts KC sports brings.


Not saying I love the chances, but they now seem better than the nearly zero percent chance I previously would have put on it.

Of course, if Hosmer goes 300/30/100/100/.375/.550 this year and next, they dim again.

I like the commitment to the players and to winning that is being displayed.

Prison Bitch 03-01-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12107056)
Prison Bitch will be apoplectic.

DM can do whatever he wants, he's earned that right. I'd rather have it go to Perez than Glass. But it's still bullshit it's a 1-way street. Sal earns a raise sure....but Outfante damn well deserved a cut

alnorth 03-01-2016 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 12107199)
A bit off topic but Justice Sotomayor referenced the "World Champion Kansas City Royals" in a Supreme Court opinion today:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...-8358_o7jp.pdf

Nice to see the Royals recognized in legal opinions.

This is awesome. The case is a rather dry one where in this phrase: “relating to aggravated sexual abuse, sexual abuse, or abusive sexual conduct involving a minor or ward.” does "involving a minor or ward" apply to only the third item in the list, or all 3? (The court said only the last item by a vote of 6-2)

To make that point, Sotomayor (who is a huge Yankees fan) wrote this:

Quote:

For example, imagine you are the general manager of the Yankees and you are rounding out your 2016 roster. You tell your scouts to find a defensive catcher, a quick-footed shortstop, or a pitcher from last year’s World Champion Kansas City Royals. It would be natural for your scouts to confine their search for a pitcher to last year’s championship team, but to look more broadly for catchers and shortstops.

siberian khatru 03-01-2016 12:38 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Salvy Perez, Lo Cain and the new tattoo <a href="https://t.co/twgs4BPlXU">pic.twitter.com/twgs4BPlXU</a></p>&mdash; Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/status/704735258055299073">March 1, 2016</a></blockquote>
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ChiefsCountry 03-01-2016 12:42 PM

We got Gordon and Salvy locked up now for the future.

Here is how I would rank the next class in importance of getting signed/value:
1. Hosmer
2. Moose
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3. Cain
4. Esky

RealSNR 03-01-2016 12:50 PM

Typically, do players like LoCain see a sharp drop-off related to age?

Personally, if there were one player we were planning on keeping between Hosmer, Moustakas, Escobar, and Cain, I would prefer Cain.


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