Yeah, because we really NEED AJ Hawk.

This is crazy stupid. Crazy stupid.

That type of thinking ALWAYS applies. Unless you want to be like the Lions and Bengals forever.

I am using my head. Sadly, far too many people here, who complain about "business as usual" under Peterson, are arguing that the Chiefs should conduct "business as usual" in the draft.

The irony involved seems to have been missed.

"Well, I REALLY wanted a cheeseburger with lettuce, onions, and mayo. But since the only thing you have on the menu is a shit sandwich, I guess I'll take that."

ROFL

Taking a non-pass rushing LB and giving him $50M before he's ever played a down is precisely the type of thing Carl would do.

This is nothing at all like Carl Peterson's business as usual, unless you're wanting it to be.

There is absolutely a top 5 typical prospect in the draft. They play QB, WR, LT, DE and from time to time DT.

The teams that stray from that more often than not regret it later. When you draft in the top 5 you suck, and you need to take core positions, not complimentary ones.

I was purposely ignoring it because it doesn't prove anything.

First of all, Vernon Gholston played DE in college and he was drafted to play 3-4 OLB. That's not the same thing as drafting an OLB like Curry.

Second, you are completely ignoring positional value. Rivers and Mayo would NOT be drafted in the top 5 even knowing what we know now because even LBs that grade very highly in the draft almost never get a top 5 pick. Patrick Willis had ironclad credentials and STILL didn't get drafted in the top 10. Because LB HAS LOW POSITIONAL VALUE.

But okay, let's play your game. Knowing what you know now, would you draft Rivers or Mayo over Jake Long, Chris Long, Matt Ryan, McFadden or Dorsey? I wouldn't, when you factor in the top 5's potential.

Let's play your other game. Assume we had a re-draft knowing what we know now. You're really going to draft Mayo or Rivers above Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Ryan Clady, Branden Albert, Chris Johnson, Matt Forte, Leodis McKelvin, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Eddie Royal, Sam Baker, Brandon Flowers, Steve Slaton? Those are at least 10 players who would easily be drafted higher than either of those two.

The problem with the Lions was that they DID choose the normal positions.

Care to bet that the Lions would like to have taken Suggs or Barnett instead of Rodgers, just for one example?

Why would they have done that when hindsight says they could have traded down and not only got Suggs and another player? Furthermore, Suggs is a pass rusher and has far more value than Curry.

First of all, Suggs was a DE in college. Second of all, Suggs would have been a disaster in Detroit, given that they run a 4-3.

Finally, Barnett's a decent player. But a top 3 pick and top 3 money? You must be outside your mind. The Lions probably regret the Rogers pick, but not because they passed on Nick Barnett. There are dozens of other names you would put above that. The funny thing is, one of the few draft picks they hit on was Ernie Sims. He's obviously been a very big difference maker for that franchise.

Ok, thanks for posting this. It lets me know that you know nothing about football.

Why do you people keep trying to move the goalposts? Taking the "normal" value position was a mistake. Taking either of the top LBs taken would have been the smarter play. It's why this nonsense about "positional value" is stupid in general, and more stupid than usual when there are no top prospects separating themselves from the pack.

Suggs was drafted with the ability to play both positions. Furthermore, the Ravens have played both the 4-3 and the 3-4 during Suggs' tenure there. That is, in fact, one of the reasons they had the hassle with his franchise tag:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3394771

Did someone really throw out Suggs as an example? The guy put up 20+ sacks in 1 year, please don't ever compare him to someone like Curry...

Suggs also hurt himself a bit going into that draft because he put on weight to show he could play DE and he ended up running really bad 40 times with the extra weight.

suggs contract hassle was about money. LB gets paid less than DE.

When Dan williams got tagged Carl argued he was basically a DT even though listed as a DE in the Hybrid scheme when DT played the Falcon.