5-13 postseason record.

I think it's safe to say he sucks in the playoffs.

Sure, he had some bad luck. And later on, he made some bad decisions in the playoffs. But part of the problem was that Schottenheimer was one of the greatest regular season coaches ever. He coached up teams with less talent, and they wound up losing to more talented teams in the playoffs.

It's easy to look at his 5-13 playoff record and have a knee jerk reaction that says he must have sucked as a playoff coach. But nobody can take away the fact that Schottenheimer was a damn good coach, no matter how much the haters want to hate.

Actually, Marty was fired for insubordination. He insisted on trying to hire his own brother as defensive coordinator when both Dean AND AJ told him not to.

AJ and Marty bickered for sure, but they were both equally to blame, since Marty lost his shit upon finding out that AJ didn't always agree with him on all personnel decisions, and AJ eventually started giving Marty the silent treatment instead of settling differences and trying to work with him.

Just because the Chargers replaced Marty with a bad coach doesn't somehow make Marty into a great coach. I'll also add that Norv, for all his faults, got us a hell of a lot closer to the Super Bowl in his first year alone than Marty ever got in his whole time in San Diego.

How am I "bitter" for stating facts? Marty was a bad coach in the playoffs. He made irrational changes, his playcalling was overconservative, and he had no control over his emotions. This has nothing to do with the Chargers particularly, since he pulled this shit throughout his entire career.

I'm surprised any Chiefs fan still defends his playoff performances, since he lost you a playoff game by making an unnecessary quarterback change, and another one by (shocker!) settling for too many field goals when the other team's offense was led by Dan ****ing Marino.

His 5-13 postseason record really says it all. Blame the players all you want, but Marty's teams always failed in the postseason, whether it was in Cleveland, Kansas City, or San Diego. Players came and went, GM's came and went, coordinators came and went, but the one constant in all these chokejobs was Marty himself.

Bullshit. His Chargers teams were loaded with talent, and he still failed in the same exact ways as he did in Kansas City and Cleveland. You can have all the talent in the world, but it doesn't matter if you can't coach them properly - this is just as true in the playoffs as it is in the regular season.

Marty was a great regular season coach and a playoff choker, end of story. Unfortunately for him, once a team becomes good, they start being judged by what they do in the postseason, not the regular season.

Marlon McCree's fumble was bad luck.

Marty subsequently throwing a shitfit and challenging that clear fumble when he had zero chance of getting it overturned was bad coaching.

Inevitably losing the challenge, getting docked a timeout, and being forced to leave the game up to another known playoff choker, Nate Kaeding, was bad coaching. He obviously learned nothing from '04.

Going for it on 4th and 11 for no reason from the Pats' 30-yard line in the first quarter was bad coaching.

I imagine him and Bryce Brown split more than you think.

Whether Chip Kelly is successful or not doesn't change the fact the Andy Reid is a tremendous upgrade from Romeo f'n Crennel. Whether Reid is an elite coach or simply a good one, time will tell.

I mostly agree, but that kind of a record isn't born of coincidence.

Yes. Those individual plays were bad luck. The problem with Marty (and Herm and thank goodness John Fox) is that they play not to lose. Once you get a lead go conservative. If they would keep playing to WIN those "unlucky" plays don't matter.

It absolutely was Marty's fault he had such a piss poor post season record.

Chips Ahoy!

For Philly's sake this better work out but it hasn't in the past. Even Saban couldn't make it in the NFL.

Great hire by the eagles. They need chip Kelly for the same reason we need Andy Reid.

I would have hired Gus Bradley. But this is a hire that says its super bowl or bust.

Oh, and even though it's a good hire, I still think Kelly is a weasel.

I WATCHED the Drive and the Fumble.

I watched Lin Elliott miss a kick and Tony Gonzales get called for a PI penalty that never actually happened.

I watched Marlon McCree fumble and I watched Nate Kaeding miss a kick not once but three times in the same game.

When a team is CONSTANTLY in position to lose because of ONE PLAY, that's on the coach. Period.

Some of his best teams were LOADED with talent. This idea that he turned a bunch of slapdicks into contenders is a myth.

Knee Jerk reaction? Hardly.

Watching him make the same postseason mistakes over and over and over again leads one to only one conclusion - he was a horrible postseason coach.

That's not hating, that's accepting reality.

It's going to be interesting to see how much Chip Kelly's offense changes in the NFL.

More than anything else, the tempo of the offense creates issues for the defense in substituting and getting lined up.

However, that offensive tempo is drilled into the players through repetition, in practice. He runs his practices at the same tempo as he runs the gameday offense.

That won't fly in the NFL - the new CBA likely won't even allow it.

I have more respect for a former player who became an espn employee than a random trolling philly fan anyday!