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stevieray 02-10-2014 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 10423807)
Now all the white knighting or black knighting has begun.

some people's whole identity rests on it...

Al Bundy 02-10-2014 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10424145)
As this progresses I hope every part a fat-man's life (and family's) don't becomes public and exploited. I'm wondering if there are any OSU fans back in his hometown? If so this could get ugly as I'm sure they'll put "walk away" to the test. I pray his kids/grandkids are left out of this who mess.

I hope everybody shows the restraint that's due in a case like this...

This should be the end of it.

KC native 02-10-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10424145)
As this progresses I hope every part a fat-man's life (and family's) don't becomes public and exploited. I'm wondering if there are any OSU fans back in his hometown? If so this could get ugly as I'm sure they'll put "walk away" to the test. I pray his kids/grandkids are left out of this who mess.

I hope everybody shows the restraint that's due in a case like this...

**** him. He's a sand aggie fan.

O.city 02-10-2014 08:52 AM

Fran frashila (sp?) and the 810 guys just had a great discussion about Smart.

His biggest strength (competitive spirit) became his biggest weakness here. You could also, like Fran said, see something like this (not necessarily shoving a fan) coming. Had a late T against KSU that cost them a game, the chair kick, the leaving the court, etc, and that he probably realized once Cobbins went down they just weren't a good enough team to win te Big 12.

Also with all of that, it's pretty obvious that Ford wasn't exactly putting the stop to anything and was probably more enabler than anything.

GloryDayz 02-10-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 10424168)
This should be the end of it.

We'll find out over the coming weeks at fat-man's family prolly starts paying the price for him wanting to be a bad-ass. Kids are cruel, and if there's an OSU fan in his kid's/grandkid's school, I'm sure they're going to be ribbed ruthlessly.

Kinda sucks for the family/kids close to fat-man...

GloryDayz 02-10-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10424186)
**** him. He's a sand aggie fan.

Yeah, I get it, but he prolly just drug his whole family into the fray and the further testing of what can be said while having the expectation that no matter what's said, the person receiving the comments is supposed to just walk away.

If there are kids in his life, his own or grandkids, this could get ugly...

Bugeater 02-10-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 10423508)
One thing that is quite clear to me is how disappointed KC_Connection is that a racial slur wasn't said. It is pretty sad how many people were praying this was going to be a race issue.

Eh, if Smart is accusing the guy of using a racial slur when he didn't, then it is still a race issue. Accusing someone of racism when there isn't any is just as bad as racism itself IMO.

GoChargers 02-10-2014 10:42 AM

Why isn't Smart getting more criticism for lying and playing the race card? How are we ever going to get past racism if those who cry wolf about it aren't called out?

KC_Connection 02-10-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10424426)
Why isn't Smart getting more criticism for lying and playing the race card? How are we ever going to get past racism if those who cry wolf about it aren't called out?

Why are you assuming he's lying?

GoChargers 02-10-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10423803)
There is something to be mentioned though, that in the NBA those guys push and shove each other all the time, it's very much a "don't disrespect me, bitch, or I'm going to deck you" culture. A "I have to gesture in your face if I score on you" culture... etc. That's what these guys emulate.

There's a big difference between players shoving each other and players going into the stands and getting violent with the fans. When Malice at the Palace happened, the NBA arguably overreacted in order to save their image as a league.

GoChargers 02-10-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10424430)
Why are you assuming he's lying?

Because I saw the video and clearly heard "you piece of crap," and to the best of my knowledge, none of the other fans nearby have stepped forward to back up Smart's version of events.

Don't get me wrong, Orr is still a no-life loser who gets his jollies by insulting college athletes, but that doesn't automatically make him a racist.

Jimmya 02-10-2014 11:00 AM

Race card....easy and fast for some.

KC_Connection 02-10-2014 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10424442)
Because I saw the video and clearly heard "you piece of crap," and to the best of my knowledge, none of the other fans nearby have stepped forward to back up Smart's version of events.

I don't get how anybody can listen to that video and claim they hear anything with certainty. For me, I can't hear the word "crap" at all. It's incredibly inconclusive. Also, how do we know the audio picked up the entire dialogue of the confrontation as well?

King_Chief_Fan 02-10-2014 11:10 AM

Coward dumb fan standing behind his fan shield heckling and saying stupid things to college kids should have expected more that what happened.

These are college kids playing a game...what is the purpose of a grown man being this stupid to a kid?

lcarus 02-10-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 10424510)
Coward dumb fan standing behind his fan shield heckling and saying stupid things to college kids should have expected more that what happened.

These are college kids playing a game...what is the purpose of a grown man being this stupid to a kid?

Shit happens all the time and I can't recall any other college players ever laying their hands on fans. What if it was a student? Because you know there's always gonna be drunk students talking trash. It's part of the game and always has been. The difference is, Smart is a hothead and apparently an idiot.


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