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kcpasco 10-16-2018 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13822505)
Didn't he get fat as **** too?
Must be all those painkillers

Frosty 10-16-2018 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13822331)
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How do you have the ball for nearly half the game and score three points while gaining just 185 total yards? By doing shit like engineering a 14-play, eight-minute drive that only travels 45 yards down the field.
I'm getting flashbacks.

In58men 10-17-2018 10:33 AM
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Eleazar 10-17-2018 10:49 AM
Gruden is trying to re-implement the dink and dunk offense from decades ago, back when slow lopin' Rich Gannon was running it.

staylor26 10-17-2018 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13822497)
Because Cooper really isn't that good? He had the 3rd highest drop rate between 2015-2017. You can say he's being misused and I'd agree with you, but a lot of his problems are on him.
He has 1 drop this year.

There’s no reason he should be on pace for significantly less than 1,000 yards again this year.

ChiefBlueCFC 10-17-2018 10:55 AM
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If you haven't, I highly recommend heading there and taking a gander.

staylor26 10-17-2018 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13822460)
It makes me just a little bit sad we end the season at home against the Raiders and there’s a better than average chance it’ll be Henne and not Mahomes who gets to shred their defense.
If that’s the case, at least we might be handing them a W to possibly **** up their draft position.

Sassy Squatch 10-17-2018 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13824230)
He has 1 drop this year.

There’s no reason he should be on pace for significantly less than 1,000 yards again this year.
2 drops on 25 catchable balls. Not exactly world beating.

staylor26 10-17-2018 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13824242)
2 drops on 25 catchable balls. Not exactly world beating.
Aren’t one of those from him getting KTFO on Sunday?

Guys drop balls. That doesn’t mean that he’s to blame for them not getting him the ball. The advanced stats say he is still getting separation. If Kelce drops a couple like he did early in the season should we stop trying to get him the ball too?

Sassy Squatch 10-17-2018 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13824269)
Aren’t one of those from him getting KTFO on Sunday?

Guys drop balls. That doesn’t mean that he’s to blame for them not getting him the ball. The advanced stats say he is still getting separation. If Kelce drops a couple like he did early in the season should we stop trying to get him the ball too?
Did Kelce have the 3rd worst drop rate for the prior 3 years?

Buehler445 10-17-2018 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13824269)
Aren’t one of those from him getting KTFO on Sunday?

Guys drop balls. That doesn’t mean that he’s to blame for them not getting him the ball. The advanced stats say he is still getting separation. If Kelce drops a couple like he did early in the season should we stop trying to get him the ball too?
That ball wasn't very catchable.

staylor26 10-17-2018 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13824278)
Did Kelce have the 3rd worst drop rate for the prior 3 years?
That’s not my point. Yes, Cooper has worse hands than Kelce. That doesn’t change the fact that he’s by far the best receiver on his team. You have to get him the ball regardless of his drops.

The Franchise 10-17-2018 11:23 AM
If I'm Cooper.....I want out. The Colts should offer up a 2nd round pick for him.

Sassy Squatch 10-17-2018 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13824324)
That’s not my point. Yes, Cooper has worse hands than Kelce. That doesn’t change the fact that he’s by far the best receiver on his team. You have to get him the ball regardless of his drops.
We're talking about 2 different things, then. I'm talking about his value on the market since the Raiders have decided that he's expendable.

staylor26 10-17-2018 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13824338)
We're talking about 2 different things, then. I'm talking about his value on the market since the Raiders have decided that he's expendable.
Gotcha. Sorry then.

I still think he’s a 1,000+ yards 6+ TD’s a year caliber guy without that cuck at QB.


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