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RealSNR 03-15-2020 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14842746)
Oh trust me I will just to prove your stupid ass wrong. Tell me the last really good DT that was let go or traded away.

Chester McGlockton!

dlphg9 03-15-2020 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14842757)
Chester McGlockton!

God damn you!

KChiefs1 03-15-2020 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14842757)
Chester McGlockton!



Don’t remind me of that lazy fatass.

Wallcrawler 03-15-2020 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14842746)
Oh trust me I will just to prove your stupid ass wrong. Tell me the last really good DT that was let go or traded away.

Ndomukong Suh, for starters.

Defensive rookie of the year, 4 pro bowls with Detroit, 3 first team.

Became highest paid defender in the league in 2015 leaving for Miami. 114 million, 60 guaranteed.

But teams would NEVER let a stud DT leave.

Chief Roundup 03-15-2020 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 14842816)
Ndomukong Suh.

Albert Haynesworth.

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OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-15-2020 08:28 AM

Whale, piranha or octopus to go with the shark

dirk digler 03-15-2020 09:34 AM

With the new CBA signed and a huge cap increase coming in 2021 I think they can work out something to get Jones signed.

Red Dawg 03-15-2020 09:43 AM

No. Get picks

dlphg9 03-15-2020 11:09 AM

With the additional $10 mil in cap space this, signing Chris Jones to a long term deal will be easy. Signing him to a 5 yr/$110 mil deal is completely doable and wouldn't handcuff us financially. The yearly cap hit could look something like this

Yr 1 - $13 mil
Yr 2 - $17 mil
Yr 3 - $26 mil
Yr 4 - $27 mil
Yr 5 - $27 mil

Keep it low in the 1st 2 years and then in year 3,4,5 it will probably look like a very good deal because contracts are about to go crazy.

TomBarndtsTwin 03-15-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14843222)
With the additional $10 mil in cap space this, signing Chris Jones to a long term deal will be easy. Signing him to a 5 yr/$110 mil deal is completely doable and wouldn't handcuff us financially. The yearly cap hit could look something like this

Yr 1 - $13 mil
Yr 2 - $17 mil
Yr 3 - $26 mil
Yr 4 - $27 mil
Yr 5 - $27 mil

Keep it low in the 1st 2 years and then in year 3,4,5 it will probably look like a very good deal because contracts are about to go crazy.

That’s great.

But are you taking into account the numbers of the Mahomes contract extension? How about the jumping cap numbers of Clark and Mathieu? The inevitable contract extension of Kelce (not a big jump, but will likely make him highest paid TE in league). So while you can make a Jones deal with low cap numbers the first 2 years, you still have to account for all the other rising caps numbers for those others.

That’s not even mentioning what we are doing at CB. I expect one high priced add there or a new contract for Fuller, which will likely be around $10 mil. annually.

Lot of factors to take into account when considering the Jones deal. Stuff I know Veach and his guys are already working on to see if it’s even possible.

I think it’s gonna hamstring us for a couple years if we resign him and I think Veach knows this. The question is does re-signing him outweigh what it’s gonna potentially cost us the next couple years? Likely roster depth and playmakers on offense, possibly an upgraded interior O-Line.

But I trust Veach so we’ll see what he does . . . . .

Red Dawg 03-15-2020 12:47 PM

Have we even tagged Jones yet?

Megatron96 03-15-2020 02:02 PM

Chris might still stay in KC. We're all thinking in terms of what we know, but with the new CBA ratified, going forward there might be room for two 20 million dollar DLs on the same team. Or two 20M WRs, or whatever. Hell, once the cap hits about 240 million, teams might be able to afford three 20M guys and a 35M QB . . .

BlackOp 03-15-2020 03:34 PM

Chiefs have 2 exceptional players on defense...Jones and HB.

They have 2 "very good" players in Clark and Pennel.

They have 4 "good" players in Fuller, Thornhill, Ward and Nnadi...I'd possibly put Breeland, Ogbah and Okafor here also.

All but four or five players are replaceable....Hitchens was a terrible move by Veach.

Chiefs need to keep Jones...the odds of getting a dominant players in return is unlikely.

RunKC 03-15-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14843717)
Chiefs have 2 exceptional players on defense...Jones and HB.

They have 2 "very good" players in Clark and Pennel.

They have 4 "good" players in Fuller, Thornhill, Ward and Nnadi...I'd possibly put Breeland, Ogbah and Okafor here also.

All but four or five players are replaceable....Hitchens was a terrible move by Veach.

Chiefs need to keep Jones...the odds of getting a dominant players in return is unlikely.

Frank Clark is as good as any player on this team not named Patrick Mahomes. It’s amazing that people still don’t acknowledge that

Red Dawg 03-15-2020 03:40 PM

Why haven't we tagged him yet?


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