And I'm not trying to be harsh but there's some serious holes in your logic, O.

You want to trade multiple first round picks because "if they see the guy they want" they should go get him. You flat out said that my concern about said player being a bust was twisting your words because you're convinced that if they see the guy they want, it's worth the cost.

But then you turn around and say they're not good at 1st round picks.

So which is it?

Because if it's the second one, then the first one makes ZERO sense. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while so if they're bad at 1st round picks, having more of them would at least give them a chance to hit. Trading them away for one guy just increases the chance that they get nothing.

And if it's the 2nd one, then you basically just nullified your entire argument.

Sorry, but you've completely contradicted yourself.

Truly, if you're THAT worried about left tackle and they haven't been good at first round picks, the ONLY logical choice is to trade #31 for an established player. Anything else is doomed to failure.

Dunlap back with the Seahawks

Carlos Dunlap back to Seattle. DE options running very thin

What about a trade with NO for Michael Thomas?

If they’re gonna keep sitting at the end of the first round and taking guys like they had been, yeah, odds aren’t in their favor that they’ll hit. Once you get past pick 14 or so, things usually get pretty dicey.

They’re “hit” on a first rounder was when they were picking first overall and when they traded up fir he guy they wanted.

They’re gonna be good for a while and will be at the back end of the first round. It’s hard to draft back there hence why we see those same teams there every year trading those picks a bit more because they just don’t value them like they used too.

In the chiefs current offensive system, the tackle spots are extremely important, so I’m not overly excited in just “patching” it up.

It may be what they have to do because the options just aren’t there, but I I’m always going to be pro “be aggressive and go trade for a guy you like” over sitting and taking scraps

So you’re logic that if they lost out on two first round picks crippling them is what?

Like DRob, we’ll bring K-pass back. I was hoping for some new blood.

They aren’t going to bring KPass back till after the draft and before camp, if needed.

They will sign a FA DE before the draft...I highly doubt that’s Kpass.

2 years ago it was a CB. We would have no picks if you were the GM.

Likely the case

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/10/7a...c54a66fc32.jpg

I guess we hope Ingram changes his mind? Or Houston actually does want to play for us again?

Terms

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Free-agent DE Carlos Dunlap is resigning with the Seahawks on a two-year deal, $16.6 million deal that includes $8.5 million guaranteed, per his agent <a href="https://twitter.com/DrewJRosenhaus?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DrewJRosenhaus</a>.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1375254213047898116?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Okung, Bouye, Alexander, Brown still out there along with some decent tight end options....what the feck is Veach waiting for?? Ugh.

looks he’s putting the rest of the eggs in on the draft picks

Dont fret we have one of the best coaching staffs in the league whoever plays LT we'll be fine we have a very solid interior line now and wont be playing 4 guys out of playing out of position with 2 weeks notice.

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I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.

You notice most of these guys are taking short deals with the teams they played for last season.

The cap dropped almost $20m. It's going to go up a bunch.

They're staying put where they're already sure of their situation and banking on a better payday later.

We're not the only ones mostly re-signing our own guys.

Were there any rumours of us being in for Suh? Disappointed we haven't gone in for more of the Bucs players. They are our biggest competition so even if we couldn't sign them it would have been good to push their prices up a bit.

They have brought them all back at a steal.

see the post directly above this one.

I would consider floating a 4th or 5th for Ertz, especially since we have multiple 4’s

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We don’t see this that often, but it’s good. Some players value loyalty over money, loyalty over winning. It’s good to see that there are some players left that don’t chase the bag or ring. They’d rather be loyal.

When a player chooses money over winning, they get scrutinized.

Marshawn Lattimore just got arrested. Receiving stolen property.

Let's stop mentioning brown as an option. Not because he's a lunatic piece of shit but mainly because he is good friends with Tom Brady.

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And especially since they haven’t spent much of the cap space.

I’d send them a third this year for Ertz + Dillard. Maybe a bit more.

Idea would be to run more 12 personnel, give Kelce more of a break, and give the WR room some opportunities to develop.

Dillard would compete with a draftee for the LT spot. Competition. Depth.

For everyone that wants to trade for Ertz? What are you doing with that contract? We can’t pay two top TEs.

His cap hit this year is $8.5 million and the rest of his contract is voided. The reason the Eagles are having a problem with him is because he wants a new deal.

This was tweeted 4 days ago from The Gunslingest

“My best guess is Chiefs sign someone like Okung on a 1 yr deal, draft 2 tackles and maybe a C. Also they’ll sign someone like TY”

You mean like, bring back Robinson?

This dude is a joke, can we stop posting his shit as well as NFL Rumors?

I think he’s only been talked about once or twice so far this season. Talk to Penbrook about NFL Rumors. That’s his jam.

And since Okung was brought up.

I wonder if Okung is the fall back option AFTER the draft. Signing him depends on who they’re able to get at LT in the first three rounds.

Maybe, are they thinking that someone they are interested in might be cut? It doesn't seem likely to me, but I don't understand why not go ahead and sign someone like Okung before the draft so you are not locked in going into the draft and or coming out without one if there is a run on OT and then Okung has more leverage.
I also have a hard time seeing Reid breaking from his history.

I doubt that's it.

It's about consistency and familiarity.

If you were taking a 1 year deal hoping to parlay it into a big payday when the cap rises, would you join a new team with a new scheme and have to learn all that in a covid offseason, or would you stay with the same scheme, the same city and focus on improving your game while not having to take two steps backwards first?

What you're seeing is players being smart enough to understand that they have better odds of success in 1 year deals if they improve on what they know already, rather than blowing it up and starting over, especially in what will be another irregular offseason.

Some people feed off this guy, I think Mahomo is one of them too.

If they have the opportunity to trade up for a LT (if that’s their plan), then signing Okung is wasted money. Okung isn’t signing with us to be a backup LT.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ok, another form of the VSB here with KC taking advantage of Taco missing part of the season by using the 137,500 as per game roster bonus rather than SB. Cap hit will be $840,156 with $60,156 being LTBE roster bonus incentive. <a href="https://t.co/bxcNaEpeTQ">https://t.co/bxcNaEpeTQ</a></p>&mdash; ChiefBearcat (@Chief_Bearcat) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chief_Bearcat/status/1375447445069516804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Da Fuq?? I have never wanted Okung as a Chief. Orlando Brown and Villanueva yes, Okung **** no

Your reading comprehension is shit.

Is there an update on Reiter or Ingram? Seems like they are just lingering out there

Give a listen to the latest Times Ours podcast regarding Ingram and Reiter. Taylor basically said that Ingram is known to be a shrewd negotiator. He has an idea in his mind of what he’s worth and he isn’t going to sign for less than that without seeing what other teams are offering. It’s positive that both Ingram and the Chiefs wanted to meet in person.

Reiter: Taylor said that the thought is that Reiter wants a multi year deal and the Chiefs want him back on a one year deal.

Ouch Lattimore had possession of a stolen handgun. Loaded in his car and failed to notify police about it.

Damn well I hope we get both.

Reiters not even taking any visits anywhere. What's his leverage?

Bucs re sign Fournette

Maybe waiting until after the draft?

Yeah, it’s fantastic that the only time it happens is at our expense.:spock:

Rappoport called him Lombardi Lenny... pretty pretentious.

Right but Reid has never started a rookie at LT. So the draft pick would be the one setting.

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Bucs just resigned Fournette. This is the first time since the salary cap era began where a defending champ brought back all 22 starters.

Raiders sign WR Willie Sneed

lulz

Tight. Sucks they made him quit though.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have &#39;checked in on&#39; free agent LT Russell Okung <a href="https://t.co/gp6SpxlcSX">https://t.co/gp6SpxlcSX</a></p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1375165388380590082?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Great post

I wouldn’t mind this.. He was solid last year for Carolina.. 32.. We better draft a LT though

I would think bringing in Okung would signal exactly that.

Good, go post this on the Bucs board, and BTW, stay there.

Until last year, Reid had also never drafted a RB in the first round.

Were they able to come to terms yet with the same refs who helped their playoff run?

He likely won’t sign till after the draft unless someone blows him away with an offer that exceeds all others significantly.

His agent knows that after the draft, someone will be desperate and overpay him after missing out on a LT in the draft. To be completely honest, I’m not really that interested in signing him. He’s the Sammy Watkins of left tackles.

I’d rather let the kid we draft play next to Thuney and spend the cap space on another offensive weapon.

It says an awful lot that Andy, EB and Nagy had to design plays specifically for Mecole bc he still struggles running routes. And that was with Robinson here.

We’re drafting a WR early. I don’t see how they wait til round 3

Two words..... TERRACE MARSHALL

Marshall Jr. Or Bateman should likely be there at 31. Id be pumped for either.

I don’t really see the value there at 63 though. The value is in rounds 3-5 IMO.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chase Daniel&#39;s career is biblical<br><br>...an undrafted QB...<br><br>...who made $38,000,000 for 5 starts in 12 seasons...<br><br>...and won only two of them...<br><br>...who has averaged 6.5 YPA...<br><br>...with one less INT than TD...<br><br>...and has been sacked 26 times...<br><br>...and he&#39;s NOT DONE YET <a href="https://t.co/PksUcmd3hM">https://t.co/PksUcmd3hM</a></p>&mdash; Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1375628630580207629?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nate is now my go to for insider chiefs news now that Terez is gone. Everything he said on the pod recently was that the Chiefs didn’t trust Mecole and had to cut the playbook down significantly to involve him.

That and Tyreek/Kelce aren’t gonna have career years like last year every year. You have to prepare for one of them to get hurt at some point as bad as that sounds. Also the Chiefs offense goes super Saiyan when that 2nd WR is forcing defenses to take attention away from Tyreek/Kelce.

Nate has also been dropping DE hints for weeks. I think we’re still drafting one even if we get Ingram or another vet.

It’s not difficult to see obviously, but I think it’s very fair to say that OL and WR are coming first followed by DE. Well I guess you could put DE and OL first with how deep the class is. Never know.

I don’t think they’re going into the draft knowing what position they’re going to be drafting each round, although I’m sure there’s some pressure to take a LT in the 1st.

I honestly have no clue what to expect. I’m excited and anxious.

He also said that he’s confident that we’ll have the DE spot locked up before the draft.

Fun fact. Marshall’s uncle is Joe Delaney. Marshall is born to be a Chief

Don't care as long as we stay the **** away from Georgia WRs this time.

LMAO, good for Chase Daniel. Living the ****ing football dream most of us dream about.

I know I’m in the minority’s but I see WR as our biggest need. Get a stud there and watch the offense go to new levels.

Don’t think Bateman will be there. Most mocks are starting to come to a consensus that he’s going mid-20’s

Yep

Or a TE 2. I tend to agree. As much as the OL has been patched up, if we get someone who means that people can't focus on Tyreek and Kelce all the time then we could be unplayable. Especially if Clyde comes into his own this year.

A bigger need than not having a left tackle or a center?

As big of a need. A big part of the issues in the SB were related to guys not being able to get open when Kelve and Tyreek were blanketed. You can’t pin your ears back on every down of it will get you burned.

We need OL AND more playmakers. They’re not mutually exclusive.

We have quality playmakers, but we need a higher quantity. Good NFL teams are too smart to let a couple of guys beat them off a bye week.

You have to have a counterpunch, and unfortunately we didn’t have that.

Terrace Marshall Jr and Walker Little in the first two rounds.

That would be sweet.

and then Odeyingbo in the 3rd.