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BWillie 02-09-2023 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16795038)
Yup. Townsend is going to make them pay if they underestimate him.

Fat fingered trying to #15 it.... lol

kccrow 02-09-2023 11:42 PM

To use the Eagles DC's quote against him... "we're going to gut these" birds.

Pitt Gorilla 02-09-2023 11:57 PM

Have folks discussed the news that several of our defenders are battling illness? Heard that on the radio today.

Hammock Parties 02-10-2023 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16796645)
Have folks discussed the news that several of our defenders are battling illness? Heard that on the radio today.

they're going to be so hopped on drugs during this game nothing will matter

you might see chris jones start foaming at the mouth

FloridaMan88 02-10-2023 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16796645)
Have folks discussed the news that several of our defenders are battling illness? Heard that on the radio today.

They would be listed on the injury report if it was affecting their practice participation or potential game availability and no one is listed so all is fine.

Rainbarrel 02-10-2023 03:24 AM

The US is bookend with a green bird at each coast. The one on the west is one for three in Super Bowls. The one on the east is one for tthree so far

ChiefsFanatic 02-10-2023 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16796645)
Have folks discussed the news that several of our defenders are battling illness? Heard that on the radio today.

Chris Jones sounded terrible in his little MVP speech to Mahomes. Andy Reid also sounds terrible.

It would be sickening, no pun intended, to lose because a local sports radio person got the Chiefs sick.

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MahomesMagic 02-10-2023 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16795810)
Feels like everybody's picking the Eagles, but I think it's mostly a bunch of ESPN tools. NFL Pickwatch shows a slight edge to the Eagles among hundreds of analysts. 6 of 9 from The Athletic picked KC.

Barnwell also picked the Chiefs. He has a long breakdown at espn.com.

The media talking heads are all in on Philadelphia and so is the public. I was at lunch yesterday and overheard a table discussing how unstoppable the Eagles are.

Bob Dole 02-10-2023 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16796605)
They could do it because they played shitty QBs with poor OLs and worse pocket awareness.

Why not jump the route? He's not gonna freeze a safety with his eyes and hit the backside with it. Or be patient enough to wait on a double move.

Maybe they did it because they knew they could and it's not something they'll do this weekend - who knows? But they'll get vivisected if they try that shit on Mahomes. He'll absolutely toy with them.

Nah. They played Dak Prescott! /Eaglefan

cmd227 02-10-2023 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 16796140)
I ran into an Eagles fan today. He was wearing a hat from the year they won. He was talking about how much he liked Andy Reid and his kids going to school with Andy's. I mentioned the SB they lost and he was like, "no, they have only been to one." Me: "I remember Donovan McNabb puking all over the field.” Him: “nope, McNabb never made it.”

Maybe he was in a coma for several months and when he woke up, no one had the heart to tell him. :shrug:

That dude was no true Eagle fan. This is their fourth and Donnie was horrible. Rumor has it he partied a bit too much the night before.

Rainbarrel 02-10-2023 06:47 AM

Watson was sick two weeks ago. I would imagine they're all use to the croop

crispystl 02-10-2023 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 16796534)
You should be sleeping in that all year, what the **** man, why do you take it off? Do you hate us?


I save it for when we really need it.
Duh.


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staylor26 02-10-2023 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16796687)
Chris Jones sounded terrible in his little MVP speech to Mahomes. Andy Reid also sounds terrible.

It would be sickening, no pun intended, to lose because a local sports radio person got the Chiefs sick.

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JFC Jones was sick 2 days ago now and not a single player has missed practice due to illness or even been limited.

On top of that, the game isn't even until Sunday. ****ing relax.

TambaBerry 02-10-2023 07:16 AM

I am weirdly calm again for this game as I was before the AFC championship. Another win is incoming

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-10-2023 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16796741)
I am weirdly calm again for this game as I was before the AFC championship. Another win is incoming

Same. Felt this way right before SB54. Just felt like we had nothing to lose. Obviously ill be a wreck during the game, but right now I'm on cloud nine.

Mulliganman 02-10-2023 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16796687)
Chris Jones sounded terrible in his little MVP speech to Mahomes. Andy Reid also sounds terrible.

It would be sickening, no pun intended, to lose because a local sports radio person got the Chiefs sick.

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Holtus?

Realbaddog 02-10-2023 08:35 AM

Found this interesting statement on Jerick McKinnon:

McKinnon’s rushing numbers don’t pop—72 carries, 291 yards, one touchdown—but that’s never been the case. However, he has in ways been the Tyreek Hill replacement in the passing offense that the Chiefs needed and posted career-bests of 56 catches, 512 yards, and nine touchdowns.

Jerick McKinnon caught more touchdowns this season than Justin Jefferson, Jaylen Waddle, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, DK Metcalf, Mike Evans, Christian Kirk, Brandon Aiyuk, and yep, Tyreek Hill.

Link: https://www.sbnation.com/2023/2/9/23...rade-offseason

New World Order 02-10-2023 08:36 AM

What’s the word on Sneed

The Franchise 02-10-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16796805)
What’s the word on Sneed

He’s good.

Sofa King 02-10-2023 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16796805)
What’s the word on Sneed

He'll be ok

Chris Meck 02-10-2023 08:56 AM

I really think, given the Eagles ferocious front four-and make no mistake-they ARE formidable-

I really think that the difference in this game will be Pacheco and Mckinnon.

Gary Cooper 02-10-2023 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 16796745)
Same. Felt this way right before SB54. Just felt like we had nothing to lose. Obviously ill be a wreck during the game, but right now I'm on cloud nine.

This thread has convinced me there's no reason to even watch the game. We'll be leading by so much at halftime that I'll even enjoy Rihanna's performance.

FloridaMan88 02-10-2023 10:07 AM

The armada is coming in for the WIN…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have 3 charter planes coming in from Kansas City tomorrow carrying over 1,000 friends and family of team employees, coaches and players. Good on the Hunts for taking care of their people this week.<br><br>Many of those folks missed KC&#39;s last Super Bowl bc of the pandemic.</p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1623812819606200320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 02-10-2023 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16796844)
This thread has convinced me there's no reason to even watch the game. We'll be leading by so much at halftime that I'll even enjoy Rihanna's performance.

Go watch some ESPN or NFLN. You'll go back to feeling like the Chiefs have no chance.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-10-2023 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16796844)
This thread has convinced me there's no reason to even watch the game. We'll be leading by so much at halftime that I'll even enjoy Rihanna's performance.

Yeah I think we're being pretty homer-ish in this thread. I maintain that it'll be close and a 1-score game going late into the 4th quarter.

FloridaMan88 02-10-2023 10:15 AM

ROFL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eagles defensive players say QBs Gardner Minshew and Ian Book have been doing a great job in practice playing the role of Patrick Mahomes.<br><br>The QBs studied Patrick and have been improvising like Patrick does and even throwing some no look passes in practice this week.😂 <a href="https://t.co/mL7V7Qyln6">pic.twitter.com/mL7V7Qyln6</a></p>&mdash; John Clark (@JClarkNBCS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JClarkNBCS/status/1624075109677035521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

fan4ever 02-10-2023 10:23 AM

I don't know about the rest of the country but there's some sh*t going around here in AZ. Just about everyone we know has been sick the past few months. I myself just finished off 2 days of vomiting and diarrhea followed by a head cold chaser. The good thing is the Eagles are exposed too.

htismaqe 02-10-2023 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fan4ever (Post 16796976)
I don't know about the rest of the country but there's some sh*t going around here in AZ. Just about everyone we know has been sick the past few months. I myself just finished off 2 days of vomiting and diarrhea followed by a head cold chaser. The good thing is the Eagles are exposed too.

Had a family member go through this exact thing. Turns out she has COVID.

ChiTown 02-10-2023 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16796741)
I am weirdly calm again for this game as I was before the AFC championship. Another win is incoming

A Mahomes Winter is Coming for the Eagles this Sunday.......

Tonka83 02-10-2023 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16796963)
ROFL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eagles defensive players say QBs Gardner Minshew and Ian Book have been doing a great job in practice playing the role of Patrick Mahomes.<br><br>The QBs studied Patrick and have been improvising like Patrick does and even throwing some no look passes in practice this week.😂 <a href="https://t.co/mL7V7Qyln6">pic.twitter.com/mL7V7Qyln6</a></p>&mdash; John Clark (@JClarkNBCS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JClarkNBCS/status/1624075109677035521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL if it were that easy, every QB in the league would be doing it.
32 co-MVPs

Gary Cooper 02-10-2023 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by fan4ever (Post 16796976)
I don't know about the rest of the country but there's some sh*t going around here in AZ. Just about everyone we know has been sick the past few months. I myself just finished off 2 days of vomiting and diarrhea followed by a head cold chaser. The good thing is the Eagles are exposed too.

COVID spread in America right after the Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020. Maybe we win right before another pandemic. It's a sign from above.

DJ's left nut 02-10-2023 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16796996)
COVID spread in America right after the Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020. Maybe we win right before another pandemic. It's a sign from above.

Worth it.

The Franchise 02-10-2023 10:51 AM

The main question that anyone should be asking when it comes to this game.

If the Eagles get down...can Hurts lead a passing attack to bring them back and win them the game? We know Mahomes can because he's shown it time and time again.

The only shot the Eagles have is that they get out to a big enough lead and our offense falters.

Sofa King 02-10-2023 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16797025)
The main question that anyone should be asking when it comes to this game.

If the Eagles get down...can Hurts lead a passing attack to bring them back and win them the game? We know Mahomes can because he's shown it time and time again.

The only shot the Eagles have is that they get out to a big enough lead and our offense falters.

My thoughts too. Hopefully our 20 or so scripted plays result in 4 TD's lol

Rainbarrel 02-10-2023 11:01 AM

Two SBs two tragedies, it's the other side's turn(copter-car)

fan4ever 02-10-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16796996)
COVID spread in America right after the Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020. Maybe we win right before another pandemic. It's a sign from above.

I remember thanking my lucky stars that all took place AFTER...

DJ's left nut 02-10-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16797025)
The main question that anyone should be asking when it comes to this game.

If the Eagles get down...can Hurts lead a passing attack to bring them back and win them the game? We know Mahomes can because he's shown it time and time again.

The only shot the Eagles have is that they get out to a big enough lead and our offense falters.

Not a question I'm asking because I already know the answer.

If they get down double digits, they're cooked.

That's the major distinction here - the Chiefs can play from in front or behind. The Eagles are built to play from ahead.

The Franchise 02-10-2023 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16797047)
Not a question I'm asking because I already know the answer.

If they get down double digits, they're cooked.

That's the major distinction here - the Chiefs can play from in front or behind. The Eagles are built to play from ahead.

Most Chiefs fans are aware of that. The media is delusional as **** right now. MAYBE Hurts could do it if he was healthy but he isn't. If we get up 14-17 points...good ****ing luck.

FloridaMan88 02-10-2023 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16797025)
The main question that anyone should be asking when it comes to this game.

If the Eagles get down...can Hurts lead a passing attack to bring them back and win them the game? We know Mahomes can because he's shown it time and time again.

The only shot the Eagles have is that they get out to a big enough lead and our offense falters.

In Eagles games that Hurts played in this season, they only trailed in four of those games… two were early 7-0 deficits to Detroit and Houston, they were down 14-0 early to Jacksonville, they trailed Indy 13-3 entering the 4th quarter, and they were down to Washington in the 2nd quarter (in the only game the Eagles lost with Hurts as their starting QB).

Otherwise Hurts has been able to play with leads… mostly big leads… for the majority of the season.

seamonster 02-10-2023 11:11 AM

Chiefs offensive line, linebackers and corners are being severely disrespected. 70+ percent of these ESPN talking heads are picking the Eagles. Cliched response is always EAGLES WIN IN DA TRENCHES like it's 1952 and the Chiefs have Dick Vermeils defense.

tk13 02-10-2023 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16797025)
The main question that anyone should be asking when it comes to this game.

If the Eagles get down...can Hurts lead a passing attack to bring them back and win them the game? We know Mahomes can because he's shown it time and time again.

The only shot the Eagles have is that they get out to a big enough lead and our offense falters.

AJ Brown and Devonta Smith are elite talents in the passing game, this isn't a Tennessee Titans situation, but I'm interested to see if the Chiefs take the ball if they win the coin toss for this reason. Even with that talent you'd probably rather try to get ahead of the Eagles and put some pressure on them for once, they haven't been in that situation a lot and it'd help take them out of their running game.

ReynardMuldrake 02-10-2023 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16796963)
ROFL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eagles defensive players say QBs Gardner Minshew and Ian Book have been doing a great job in practice playing the role of Patrick Mahomes.<br><br>The QBs studied Patrick and have been improvising like Patrick does and even throwing some no look passes in practice this week.😂 <a href="https://t.co/mL7V7Qyln6">pic.twitter.com/mL7V7Qyln6</a></p>&mdash; John Clark (@JClarkNBCS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JClarkNBCS/status/1624075109677035521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Patrick is going to complete a behind the back pass this game. I can feel it.

"We didn't see that one in practice..."

DJ's left nut 02-10-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 16797060)
AJ Brown and Devonta Smith are elite talents in the passing game, this isn't a Tennessee Titans situation, but I'm interested to see if the Chiefs take the ball if they win the coin toss for this reason. Even with that talent you'd probably rather try to get ahead of the Eagles and put some pressure on them for once, they haven't been in that situation a lot and it'd help take them out of their running game.

AJ Brown played on those Titans team and it was still a Tennessee Titans Situation. Smith's a little better than Corey Davis was at that time, but not substantially so.

The Eagles are closer to the '19 Titans than anyone will acknowledge, IMO.

kepp 02-10-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16796839)
I really think, given the Eagles ferocious front four-and make no mistake-they ARE formidable-

I really think that the difference in this game will be Pacheco and Mckinnon.

Dial up the screen game to dial back their aggression. Make them think.

htismaqe 02-10-2023 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 16797066)
Dial up the screen game to dial back their aggression. Make them think.

The only issue is that if they rush 4 and fall back into zone, the screen game won't work as well.

We've got to get them into the 5-man rush packages and make them man up for it to really be effective.

kepp 02-10-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16797069)
The only issue is that if they rush 4 and fall back into zone, the screen game won't work as well.

We've got to get them into the 5-man rush packages and make them man up for it to really be effective.

I wonder how they start out. Do they go balls-to-the-wall pass rush at first, or sit back in a zone? I tend to think the former, but who knows.

The Franchise 02-10-2023 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16797065)
AJ Brown played on those Titans team and it was still a Tennessee Titans Situation. Smith's a little better than Corey Davis was at that time, but not substantially so.

The Eagles are closer to the '19 Titans than anyone will acknowledge, IMO.

The Eagles just have a better TE than that Titans team did.

DJ's left nut 02-10-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 16797066)
Dial up the screen game to dial back their aggression. Make them think.

Andy giveth and taketh away with the screen game, IMO.

His screens are SO meticulous and so precisely timed that they're absolutely amazing when they work. But they're also not something you can just 'dust off', IMO.

They're thoroughbreds that need to be kept in shape and get constant exercise. They're not plowhorses that you can just throw out in the field when you need them.

I think we'll see some screens because we always do, but I'd be surprised if we go to them a lot more often than we typically do.

htismaqe 02-10-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 16797072)
I wonder how they start out. Do they go balls-to-the-wall pass rush at first, or sit back in a zone? I tend to think the former, but who knows.

It's going to be an interesting chess match. If they come out with pressure, we all know how Pat operates agains the blitz. Do they focus on trying to limit the chunk plays instead?

I mean with this offense it's really pick your poison. Are they going to try to take away the deep stuff or are they going to try and force long drives? Either way, Mahomes is going to make them pay.

smithandrew051 02-10-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16797065)
AJ Brown played on those Titans team and it was still a Tennessee Titans Situation. Smith's a little better than Corey Davis was at that time, but not substantially so.

The Eagles are closer to the '19 Titans than anyone will acknowledge, IMO.

As soon as the Chiefs beat a team, you’ll notice the opinion of that team changes tremendously. Even Chiefs fans tend to think teams that the Chiefs beat just suck.

DJ's left nut 02-10-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16797074)
The Eagles just have a better TE than that Titans team did.

Jonnu Smith was really good that year, especially by the playoffs.

Sure, Goedert is better, but Jonnu Smith wasn't a hack by any stretch and in some ways actually offered a MORE dangerous big play threat.

DJ's left nut 02-10-2023 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16797081)
As soon as the Chiefs beat a team, you’ll notice the opinion of that team changes tremendously. Even Chiefs fans tend to think teams that the Chiefs beat just suck.

"Oh sure, the 49ers had a good DL in 2019, but they didn't have 4 of them..."

Just ridiculous revisionist history. Ford - Armstead - Buckner - Bosa was evidently shite now.

staylor26 02-10-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16797088)
"Oh sure, the 49ers had a good DL in 2019, but they didn't have 4 of them..."

Just ridiculous revisionist history. Ford - Armstead - Buckner - Bosa was evidently shite now.

They were better, and I'll die on that hill.

MahomesMagic 02-10-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 16797063)
Patrick is going to complete a behind the back pass this game. I can feel it.

"We didn't see that one in practice..."

Rag arm Minshew impersonating Mahomes...


Ugh, suuuuuuure.

ROFL

DJ's left nut 02-10-2023 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16797089)
They were better, and I'll die on that hill.

Of COURSE they were.

I mean look at the stats for that team when it had Ford on the field. When they had that full group, they were ****ing monsters.

But now I'm supposed to pretend like that didn't happen. Or that the Chiefs haven't dominated better running games in the playoffs. Or that we didn't JUST hold down a way better WR corps than the Eagles have.

It just gets tiring to see folks hand-waive everything this team accomplishes.

RunKC 02-10-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 16797066)
Dial up the screen game to dial back their aggression. Make them think.

They’ve been very susceptible to screens and quick plays this year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I expect this to be a HUGE pressure point for Reid on Sunday<br><br>Here&#39;s a basic summary of how to attack PHI&#39;s defense:<br><br>In 5-1 front: either get to Empty of 3x1 (TE opposite), test their RPO bubble rules<br>In 4-down (Over) front: Run the ball<br><br>Might need to make vid explaining this <a href="https://t.co/fk4zKxKoJV">pic.twitter.com/fk4zKxKoJV</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1624070536849506304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GB was mixing in fair amount of GT Counter runs going strongside, was big against Eagles Penny fronts. Having Marcedes be able to stack DE then work up is such an asset (Marcedes is awesome) but vs a 2H shell the # count can be there and Penny is easier for seals backside <a href="https://t.co/RXYMMMJuBd">pic.twitter.com/RXYMMMJuBd</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1623898709049192449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">(different formation but same principles)<br><br>Douggggg.... <a href="https://t.co/OtKcoCBjLc">pic.twitter.com/OtKcoCBjLc</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1623539584775884804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taking a break from PHI defense watch to shoutout Doug Pederson, what a RZ call. PHI wanted to play man in RZ, switch safeties up to deal with jet motion, but WR snaps back outside on motion and it looks CGJ up to try and run in space, terrific design, great man beater <a href="https://t.co/oc4uoIt8jR">pic.twitter.com/oc4uoIt8jR</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1623536209061457920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 02-10-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16797098)
Of COURSE they were.

I mean look at the stats for that team when it had Ford on the field. When they had that full group, they were ****ing monsters.

But now I'm supposed to pretend like that didn't happen. Or that the Chiefs haven't dominated better running games in the playoffs. Or that we didn't JUST hold down a way better WR corps than the Eagles have.

It just gets tiring to see folks hand-waive everything this team accomplishes.

It comes down to a few things.

1. Everyone has Chiefs fatigue

2. East coast media are tired of a team that isn't on the east coast being the team every year, and if it isn't them they'd at least like to go to California.

3. ESPN specifically has multiple guys on TV who came from the Philly media.

4. The media is 100% pandering to the larger east coast market and to the fact that they think most people watching this game will be rooting against the Chiefs.

Tonka83 02-10-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16797103)
They’ve been very susceptible to screens and quick plays this year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I expect this to be a HUGE pressure point for Reid on Sunday<br><br>Here&#39;s a basic summary of how to attack PHI&#39;s defense:<br><br>In 5-1 front: either get to Empty of 3x1 (TE opposite), test their RPO bubble rules<br>In 4-down (Over) front: Run the ball<br><br>Might need to make vid explaining this <a href="https://t.co/fk4zKxKoJV">pic.twitter.com/fk4zKxKoJV</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1624070536849506304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GB was mixing in fair amount of GT Counter runs going strongside, was big against Eagles Penny fronts. Having Marcedes be able to stack DE then work up is such an asset (Marcedes is awesome) but vs a 2H shell the # count can be there and Penny is easier for seals backside <a href="https://t.co/RXYMMMJuBd">pic.twitter.com/RXYMMMJuBd</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1623898709049192449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">(different formation but same principles)<br><br>Douggggg.... <a href="https://t.co/OtKcoCBjLc">pic.twitter.com/OtKcoCBjLc</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1623539584775884804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taking a break from PHI defense watch to shoutout Doug Pederson, what a RZ call. PHI wanted to play man in RZ, switch safeties up to deal with jet motion, but WR snaps back outside on motion and it looks CGJ up to try and run in space, terrific design, great man beater <a href="https://t.co/oc4uoIt8jR">pic.twitter.com/oc4uoIt8jR</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1623536209061457920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Thanks for posting these.

duncan_idaho 02-10-2023 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16797103)
They’ve been very susceptible to screens and quick plays this year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I expect this to be a HUGE pressure point for Reid on Sunday<br><br>Here&#39;s a basic summary of how to attack PHI&#39;s defense:<br><br>In 5-1 front: either get to Empty of 3x1 (TE opposite), test their RPO bubble rules<br>In 4-down (Over) front: Run the ball<br><br>Might need to make vid explaining this <a href="https://t.co/fk4zKxKoJV">pic.twitter.com/fk4zKxKoJV</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1624070536849506304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GB was mixing in fair amount of GT Counter runs going strongside, was big against Eagles Penny fronts. Having Marcedes be able to stack DE then work up is such an asset (Marcedes is awesome) but vs a 2H shell the # count can be there and Penny is easier for seals backside <a href="https://t.co/RXYMMMJuBd">pic.twitter.com/RXYMMMJuBd</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1623898709049192449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">(different formation but same principles)<br><br>Douggggg.... <a href="https://t.co/OtKcoCBjLc">pic.twitter.com/OtKcoCBjLc</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1623539584775884804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taking a break from PHI defense watch to shoutout Doug Pederson, what a RZ call. PHI wanted to play man in RZ, switch safeties up to deal with jet motion, but WR snaps back outside on motion and it looks CGJ up to try and run in space, terrific design, great man beater <a href="https://t.co/oc4uoIt8jR">pic.twitter.com/oc4uoIt8jR</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1623536209061457920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Toney is going to break a bubble for a TD this game, isn't he?

Mecca 02-10-2023 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tonka83 (Post 16797110)
Thanks for posting these.

There's more stuff on his page..

One of the ones that stands out is when the Eagles go 5-1 Dallas was hitting them with empty looks. The Eagles don't align their fronts to match personnel like most coaches...

Dallas was getting really easy completions off the look repeatedly.

Mecca 02-10-2023 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16797112)
Toney is going to break a bubble for a TD this game, isn't he?

Toney is the under the radar guy primed for a big game, I could easily see him finishing the game and people go wow dude had 7 catches for 115 yards and a td with 4 rushes for 38 yards.

DJ's left nut 02-10-2023 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16797113)
There's more stuff on his page..

One of the ones that stands out is when the Eagles go 5-1 Dallas was hitting them with empty looks. The Eagles don't align their fronts to match personnel like most coaches...

Dallas was getting really easy completions off the look repeatedly.

They'd better.

Because even if they get the best of Andy/PM for a quarter, if they stay in a bear front the whole damn game, those two WILL unlock it and by the 4th quarter they'll be marching up and down the field.

staylor26 02-10-2023 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16797115)
Toney is the under the radar guy primed for a big game, I could easily see him finishing the game and people go wow dude had 7 catches for 115 yards and a td with 4 rushes for 38 yards.

Yup, he's the X factor in this one.

htismaqe 02-10-2023 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16797120)
They'd better.

Because even if they get the best of Andy/PM for a quarter, if they stay in a bear front the whole damn game, those two WILL unlock it and by the 4th quarter they'll be marching up and down the field.

Yep.

Everything I've read is that the Eagles run their defense the way they run it and they don't make a lot of situational adjustments.

That's going to be a huge problem for them because the only real way to slow Mahomes down is to mix up coverages and rush packages so that he can't settle in. If they don't switch it up, it's going to be a long day for their defense.

The Franchise 02-10-2023 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16797115)
Toney is the under the radar guy primed for a big game, I could easily see him finishing the game and people go wow dude had 7 catches for 115 yards and a td with 4 rushes for 38 yards.

God I hope he can stay healthy and just kill them the entire game.

tredadda 02-10-2023 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 16797072)
I wonder how they start out. Do they go balls-to-the-wall pass rush at first, or sit back in a zone? I tend to think the former, but who knows.

Honestly I would think they try to blitz early and often. Even if Mahomes performs well against the blitz those hit take a toll and with his ankle situation the odds increase that he reaggravates it.

On the other side of it, if they feel confident emough to get home with 4 then they will have no reason to blitz.

Mecca 02-10-2023 11:46 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC won&#39;t do the split back stuff as much (unless it&#39;s the Toney package maybe?) but I love testing PHI&#39;s 5-down (Penny here) fronts with RPOs. If that DE has to drop because of formation, test him with bubbles/swing, see how they handle it from base <a href="https://t.co/b2gLxWcc4b">pic.twitter.com/b2gLxWcc4b</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1623895973318516736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This split back play is pretty awesome, I'd steal that.

DJ's left nut 02-10-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16797127)
Honestly I would think they try to blitz early and often. Even if Mahomes performs well against the blitz those hit take a toll and with his ankle situation the odds increase that he reaggravates it.

On the other side of it, if they feel confident emough to get home with 4 then they will have no reason to blitz.

I'd stay back early.

The only thing that can really slow down the Chiefs offense is poor execution, IMO. And if you start sending heat, you speed them up and may actually HELP them get locked in.

It's like a manager putting on a hit and run call when he has a hitter struggling. Now the hitter HAS to swing the bat and maybe he gets out of his own head and finds the barrel.

You blitz Mahomes early and you're going to immediately get him focused. And if that happens, you're boned.

RunKC 02-10-2023 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16797122)
Yup, he's the X factor in this one.

McKinnon. He’s so good in the open field field.

He needs to get the ball

htismaqe 02-10-2023 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16797134)
I'd stay back early.

The only thing that can really slow down the Chiefs offense is poor execution, IMO. And if you start sending heat, you speed them up and may actually HELP them get locked in.

It's like a manager putting on a hit and run call when he has a hitter struggling. Now the hitter HAS to swing the bat and maybe he gets out of his own head and finds the barrel.

You blitz Mahomes early and you're going to immediately get him focused. And if that happens, you're boned.

Exactly. The only way to really stop the Chiefs offense is to hope they get a holding call or similar that stifles a drive.

We've seen it - the Chiefs are the best team in the league at those 10-12 play drives, despite not being a real running team. It's all about efficiency and the Eagles really have to play to that. If they blitz him, they risk giving up a big play and they just can't afford that the way they play offense.

Mecca 02-10-2023 11:55 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m sure PHI has built in more counters since but man their offense just devolves after getting looks of pressure. It&#39;s either Go-balls or screens<br><br>You can bait them by dropping everyone out, and DBs can play much more downhill because playcalls get simpler<br><br>Unleash the clip <a href="https://t.co/x6FsE377iv">pic.twitter.com/x6FsE377iv</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1622788009069256704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tredadda 02-10-2023 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16797088)
"Oh sure, the 49ers had a good DL in 2019, but they didn't have 4 of them..."

Just ridiculous revisionist history. Ford - Armstead - Buckner - Bosa was evidently shite now.

Quick question and was hoping to get your opinion. That 49er Dline was better than this Eagle's one for sure. Now looking at our OLine, we have a better interior than we did in that game while our T's are not as good now as Fisher/Schwartz.

So who do you feel had the bigger advantage? The 49er DLine vs that KC OLine? Or Philly's Dline vs. this Oline for KC? I think that might be a better gauge then a straight head to head comparison of the two Dlines.

Mecca 02-10-2023 11:56 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The #1 thing Vance Joseph did; he blitzed the crap out of Hurts<br><br>Blitzing took offense completely out of rhythm. Passing game isn&#39;t well-built to counter lot of blitzing, since Hurts in MOF is just not a great option<br><br>Had to resort to a ton of screens, and ARI got a beat on those <a href="https://t.co/Xlosp2edr2">pic.twitter.com/Xlosp2edr2</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1622785659944505344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 02-10-2023 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16797144)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m sure PHI has built in more counters since but man their offense just devolves after getting looks of pressure. It&#39;s either Go-balls or screens<br><br>You can bait them by dropping everyone out, and DBs can play much more downhill because playcalls get simpler<br><br>Unleash the clip <a href="https://t.co/x6FsE377iv">pic.twitter.com/x6FsE377iv</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1622788009069256704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oh Noes!!! Not Zone Blitzes!!!!

Mecca 02-10-2023 11:57 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Terrific bait by Vance Joseph here. Motion ID&#39;s the man, but they still get rotation into C1, drop that WS safety down. Hurts sees but doesn&#39;t look off S in any way, he&#39;s able to drop post-snap into hole<br><br>If S wasn&#39;t there, good read, but no manipulation of S leads to near INT <a href="https://t.co/cTWz0rBxi2">pic.twitter.com/cTWz0rBxi2</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1622783013321859072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tredadda 02-10-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16797115)
Toney is the under the radar guy primed for a big game, I could easily see him finishing the game and people go wow dude had 7 catches for 115 yards and a td with 4 rushes for 38 yards.

At this point this is not even guaranteed based on his short time with KC.

Mecca 02-10-2023 11:57 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The second-lowest point total of the season. Must be... the Cardinals??<br><br>Vance Joseph had a superb gameplan and was largely able to limit ARI&#39;s run game. Vance was the one team I saw use a variety of run blitzes and bringing guys from depth, changing angles with slants <a href="https://t.co/CrsvU9mmWv">pic.twitter.com/CrsvU9mmWv</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1622781166192406528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

All of this stuff Arizona is doing, this is what Spags does.

DJ's left nut 02-10-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16797146)
Quick question and was hoping to get your opinion. That 49er Dline was better than this Eagle's one for sure. Now looking at our OLine, we have a better interior than we did in that game while our T's are not as good now as Fisher/Schwartz.

So who do you feel had the bigger advantage? The 49er DLine vs that KC OLine? Or Philly's Dline vs. this Oline for KC? I think that might be a better gauge then a straight head to head comparison of the two Dlines.

I'd rather have that OL vs. the 49ers DL than our present OL vs. the Eagles DL.

Interior lines are easier to find help for. You can help OTs, but you can't really just shade protection to do it. You have to actually use RBs and TEs to provide it most of the time.

I think you can be more pro-active in what you do when you have strong tackles than when you have a strong IOL.

htismaqe 02-10-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16797148)
Oh Noes!!! Not Zone Blitzes!!!!

Karlafits in coverage?

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/trrfd.gif

tredadda 02-10-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16797124)
Yep.

Everything I've read is that the Eagles run their defense the way they run it and they don't make a lot of situational adjustments.

That's going to be a huge problem for them because the only real way to slow Mahomes down is to mix up coverages and rush packages so that he can't settle in. If they don't switch it up, it's going to be a long day for their defense.

I said it before and I will say it again, if Philly does that then KC will shred them as Andy and Pat have two weeks to design ways to beat that defense. If that happens and KC wins their DC might not want to return to Philly after the game.


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