Looks pretty normal. I would think he plays.

Better playoff QB.

That statement makes no sense. Josh Allen is just as much of a freak show QB as Lamar Jackson. Josh has an insane arm, maybe even stronger than Mahomes' arm. Josh also has Cam Newton type of big body rushing ability. Trent Dilfer in the same conversation with him? That's crazy talk.

Mahomes got his contract reworked to guarantee more money he didn't get a FULLY guaranteed deal. Big difference.

Even in Lamar’s supposed “best” playoff performance… this past weekend… he barely had 150 yards passing.

LMAO

This game is simple to break down. Both teams have elite Top 3 defenses.
Chiefs have the coaching advantage, by a slight margin.
The huge gap in talent is at the QB position. One team has Lamar and the other has the GOAT. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to make the right choice here.

He's healthy enough to be a full participant at practices. I think that even if Andrews doesn't play his full snap count, they will put him out there as a decoy. Andrews has drawn double/triple teams throughout his career.

They have already said they are gonna re-work the deal again in 2027, at which point he'll get another 4 years fully guaranteed. His original contract is a joke at this point. Lol

Lol. If anyone really thinks that a 10 week removed from playing due to injury Mark Andrews is gonna be anything more than end of career Jason Witten or, to put it another way, prime of career Charlie Kolar, said person must not have watched lots of professional football in their life.

I say this with sincerity: if you look at that last game Lamar played and your only takeaway is "Lamar is bad because he only passed for 150 yards," you are seriously misjudging things and should reevaluate how you come to conclusions in football and perhaps otherwise.

I didn't hear his entire comment. Was it something good luck in terms if the homegrown making it difficult or was it good luck on beating us in this stadium. Sounds like some MJ conjuring up some motivation.

Andrews has never won on athleticism. He has the same telekinetic connection with Lamar that Mahomes and Kelce have. He doesn't need to be 100% to find soft spots underneath and for Lamar to find him there.

When Kelce was coming off of his early season injury at the beginning of the year, would you have rather had an 80% Kelce or no Kelce?

Let’s translate your Lamar Apologist babble…

“Factor in Lamar’s rushing yardage because he’s a glorified running back”.

It was "good luck" directed to Mahomes, meaning he thought Mahomes was screwed by the hostile atmosphere in Buffalo. Mahomes later referred to this after the game when he posted "good luck" on social media somewhere. Instagram maybe.

The same way the non playoff Raiders boatraced God in Cleats, the best HC and the Best DC. It's any given Sunday. But the Chiefs in the playoffs are exempt from that.

I'm genuinely telling you that if your way of analyzing Lamar Jackson is to look at the box score and judge him by his passing yardage, your eyes and/or brain are betraying you. Start from scratch and reevaluate how you arrive at conclusions. God bless.

MD thise rational mi dedicated folk only exist on Chiefs Planet?

No way Andrews is 80% coming off that much rust and nursing an injury. Kelce, in his first game this season, had 4 catches for 26 yards....very end of career Witten or ceiling Kolar.

If anyone is getting excited (on your end) or scared (on our end) about a guy going 4 for 26, I don't know what to tell you.

Nice non answer.

The Chiefs lost to the Raiders due to their own self-inflicted mistakes.

Not the same as Baltimore getting bludgeoned by a RB named Jerome Ford (who?)

You type like Lamar speaks.

Lamar received a QBR grade of 94/100 for that game last weekend. That's an awesome performance. Passing yards don't mean that much...

Two of Mahomes' best games lately were the Super Bowl last year and the Buffalo playoff game last weekend. Pretty low passing yardage in both of those games. He was very efficient with very high QBR grades in those 2 games. He didn't get to touch the football very much because Philly & Buffalo hogged the ball for 65% of the game clock.

He can draw attention in a way that almost no one else on the Ravens can. In past years when the Ravens didn't have receivers, defenses would center the gameplan around Andrews. He would be doubled if not tripled on certain plays and teams would sell out to ensure Andrews didn't beat them by himself. If this game is decided by a razor-thin margin and Andrews draws a defender on just one play, that could be the difference.

Andrews himself cited Terrell Owens as the model for his recovery. Owens had the exact same injury as Andrews around the exact same point in the season. His first game back was the Super Bowl, and he went nine catches for 122 yards. Andrews isn't the physical specimen that Owens is, but he's as single minded and dedicated as anyone on the team, so I guarantee he has been doing everything in his power to rehab.

I am judging by the fact his only sustained success in the postseason has been in the Pro Bowl.

Lamar is the Pro Bowl GOAT.

Again I need to see the entire quote. Media is good at taking a piece of a quote and running with it.

No, they are not exempt from that. What they have done is stood in the ring (in the postseason) and beat the biggest alleged bad ass in the room, multiple times.

49ers
Eagles
Bills (last week)
L but toe to toe with Brady's Patriots in Mahomes 1st year as a starter

What has this (Lamar's) edition of the Ravens ever done in the post season outside of beating the playoff tomato can Titans and an out way over their skis, rookie lead Houston team?

Ravens fans here seriously comparing a brokedick Mark Andrews to the likes of Kelce and TO.

ROFL

That's tjw same way the Raven Lost to the Browns getting out of rush lanes allowing Watsin to escape the pocket. And Wa5sin Literally had a perfect half against the Ravens. I mean I can't even think of the JAG that picked Mahomes and returned it while pointng at him. These things happen to everyone but the Chiefs.

Chiefs fans are going to disrespect a top 3 TE in the league.

But, see, that's my point. Fans can ooh and ahh and get excited or freaked out or whatever they want to do. My bet is that if Andrews plays, Spags handles him the same way he would Chuck Kolar. If you think in a key moment in the game Andrews is pulling Sneed away from an actual threat, I think you're wrong.

Here is the full quote below. Seems pretty obvious what Dawkins meant with the 'good luck' part at the very end of the statement. Mahomes clearly used it as motivation and threw it back at Dawkins after the game.

“Mahomes has never been to the Bills stadium in full,” Dawkins said. “The environment will be different, and not to say it’s in our favor, but stadium is our favor. Stadium is us. That helps us. I don’t care what nobody says. This is the most dopest feeling I’ve ever had. We’re having two back to back playoff games at home. Come on now, like we get to leave and go eat wings. It’s cool. So good luck.”

Paging a Lamar-bonics translator.

ROFL. He wouldn't go top 3 in a TE draft this week (talking about remaining TE)

I just cited an example of a player who had the same injury and then came back and put up a monster game. It's clearly not impossible, so how could Spagnuolo have the confidence to say with certainty that the all pro tight end is a gimp and should be ignored? That's a pretty risky proposition sight unseen. Spagnuolo has no more information than you or I about Andrews' status except that he has been a full participant in practice and has to be accounted for as if he's going to be active. You're hand waving Mark Andrews away in a fashion that I'm sure no one in the Chiefs' building can afford to do. So even if Andrews doesn't actually have nine catches for 122 yards, he has to be gameplanned for.

LMAO

TO is a HOF player… Mark Andrews is not.

JFC you Ravens fans have no game… try harder.

LMAO

This is a lot of posturing for a dude I bet ends up being inactive anyway. If he is active, we shall see how it plays out but I bet you I'm right and Spags sees through the window dressing decoy that Andrews will be if he's out there Sunday. I'll be right here to admit I was wrong if Andrews does anything, even as a decoy, that actually effects the outcome.

Well then we damn well know Travis Kelce wouldn't be either given that Andrews had more touchdowns than Kelce in his ten games to Kelce's 15 and Andrews had a higher yards per target than Kelce.

1. LaPorta/Kittle
2. LaPorta/Kittle
3. Likely
4. Andrews
5. Kelce

Guess you're right, Andrews isn't in the top three.

And yet every team in the league would still take Kelce over Mark Andrews.

Including the Ravens.

That's a weird statement. Andrews is a pretty damn good player in the current NFL. Certainly a valuable player in the Ravens offense.

Hold on....let me make sure you understand me so I don't write you off as a total jabroni (when I actually think, IMO, you've been the most civil and engaging Ravens fan here.....)

I'm saying, you are a GM drafting a team to play this weekend, pulling from the player pool you have from the 4 remaining teams. You are drafting TEs and you have the first choice in said TEs.

Look me in the internet eye and tell me with a straight face you are not taking Travis Kelce with that pick.

I guarantee the Ravens would not. Andrews and Lamar have as strong of a connection as Mahomes and Kelce do. Kelce is 34. All due respect to one of the best to ever do it, but the Ravens would not make that trade straight up.

Holy shit! I was wrong I guess. You are, indeed, a total jabroni.

Doesn’t mean he has the ability to come back and have the same impact that TO had after a major ankle injury.

TO had 9 catches for 122 yards receiving in his return from a major ankle injury.

Are you suggesting that Andrews will have anything close to that type of performance if he plays Sunday?

How many Super Bowls has Lamar/Andrew’s “strong connection” won?

How many playoff games?

What do you want me to do? Just bend the kene and tug off Travis Kelce? He's one of the two greatest tight ends ever alongside Gronk. There, does that make you happy? But his production is declining and Andrews has a special connection with Lamar that can't just be replicated.

I understand you're saying this weekend, so age doesn't matter as much. But does the existing connection between the QB and the TE not matter? Because part of what makes Travis Kelce who he is is his special connection with Mahomes. And Lamar has that with Andrews. They're probably the two most intertwined QB/TE connections in the entire NFL. It's not a one-for-one substitution the way it would be for many other positions or other teams.

And statistically, both Likely and Andrews outproduced Kelce this year. Likely has as many touchdowns as Kelce in half the games started. Likely's yards per target is 10.3 to Kelce's 8.1. Andrews is 8.9 to Kelce's 8.1. What do you want me to say?

Probably not the same impact as Owens. But if Andrews is able to convert some 3rd downs and Red Zone stuff for Baltimore and it leads to a close victory for them, you could say Andrews had a big impact. Example here:

5 catches, 50 yards with a TD and 4 conversions on 3rd down in a very close win for Baltimore. That would be a pretty big impact on their success if it goes that way.

Andrews’ “special connection” with Lamar that has resulted in exactly one playoff win.

Hey, man. I'm not gonna engage with you just spamming this anymore. It's not worth my time. Letting you know now so you don't waste your own.

Look who is surrendering. ROFL

I gotta give it to you guys, this place has some real character. This is the second time today someone here has told me I'm "surrendering" because I said I didn't want to bicker. Surrendering? Who says that?!

And I've seen more references to the "Lamar Hunt Trophy" in this thread than I have anywhere else in my life. As if anyone gives a damn about the name of the trophy honoring the silver market cornering family.

CP is an absolute cesspool even as far as NFL message board standards go, and I mean that as a compliment.

You attempting to post here…

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You continue to make my point for me. It took Kelce nearly the entire season, one could argue the entire regular season, to get back to normal. Setting aside the fact that Kelce still out gained Andrews and Likely combined, my point remains that even that great chemistry takes time to rekindle when not on the field together. See Kelce game 1 (for him) and the aforementioned 4 for 26. You could even argue, although I won't here, that Jackson has been flirting with another (Likely) for over two months now. Mahomes went 1 game without Kelce, so there was no connection lost.

Look man, Mark Andrews is a great player. I'm sure next year, he will be back to being a beast. Two TE sets in 2024 are gonna be a thing for you guys. But he's not gonna do shit this weekend. Which is fine, Likely is a good player. We will definitely have to account for him. But the threat of Andrews is not going to have anywhere near the effect you think it will. And, if only for this weekend, Shannahan, Campbell and especially Harbaugh would throw their guys off a bridge for Kelce (assuming you could transmute chemistry and playbook knowledge). I can't take anyone seriously who would say otherwise.

I'd run to a book to take the under on catches and yards right now. I guess anyone with working hands (not looking at you Kadrious Toney) can catch a 2 yard TD so that might happen if he plays.

I don't think Kelce is back to normal. That knee & ankle stuff has bothered him all season. Won't be surprised if we find out he gets some kind of surgery in the off-season.

:evil:

Remember what happened literally immediately after that (CP still won't let me post links but youtu.be/AeQk36btGdI?si=qNZPp444wES3w53H)?

He might indeed. But he looked damn good Sunday night. And again, that strengthens my point to that Ravens fella. Just because athletic and genetic (even for NFL players) TO did something once, does not in any way, shape or form mean that Mark Andrews comes anywhere close to even dreaming about that or any real impact.

Ultimately we won't know how healthy Andrews is until gameday. For what it's worth, the word has been the AFCCG is the date they've been targeting with Andrews all along. I don't think they were going to bring him back last week (or at any point prior) even if he had been technically able to go since they wanted him at full for for the AFCCG/SB. So maybe he's not as borderline this week as being a gameday decision would have you think, but rather the Ravens are being coy about his status for strategic reasons and were never planning on bringing him back until now regardless.

All due respect to Kelce. Like I said, top 2 ever. But the Ravens wouldn't trade Mark Andrews for Travis Kelce given their age and connection. And they couldn't just plug him in for one game this weekend. You might not like those answers, but you asked. Doesn't detract from what Kelce has done in his career and the value he continues to provide to KC, but the Ravens are all set at tight end between Andrews and Likely.

I think this horse is dead and beaten. Again, I feel like we are spending a lot of ink on a dude who ends up not playing. We'll see. Anyway, on to the next topic regarding the game, whenever it comes up.

I agree that Kelce is coming on at the right time. Not sure whether that's coming back from injury or just turning it on in the playoffs, but encouraging for you guys either way.

Holy ****.

I’ve stayed out of this mess, but these fools think if they have a chance it is anything other than their defense shutting down our offense or their OL stoning our passrush? And further, they think it is all on the hands of Andrews coming off a 6 week injury?

What?

And yet Kelce has more TDs this season than Andrews (playoffs included)...

You queers love to throw out MVP, and DVOA. That’s great that LameArm has won an MVP. I wouldn’t call this season MVP worthy, but it’s all you’ve got to hang your hat on. Patrick has been there, done that. 2 MVPs, 2 SB MVPs. And he’s gonna come into that shithole of a stadium, and send your HiGhEsT rAtEd DvOa Of AlL tImE the **** home. And I bet he sends you 2 or 3 pillow biters to the shadow realm. Bring ya Kleenex when you go to The Bank this weekend, cuz your season will be over by 630 pm Sunday!

Andrews started 9 regular season games and had 6 TDs. Kelce started 15 and had 5. If you want to include the two playoff games Kelce started in to give him 17 games and 7 touchdowns, knock yourself out, but I'm not sure that's the flex you think it is.

This isn't even mentioning Isiah Likely 9 starts and 6 TDs.

Two MVPs. Same as your boy.

I''ll raise you two SB MVPs.


Over a hundred posts yesterday?....LMAO

Pressure is on the Ravens.

This place truly takes the cake. You have made remarks that I both a) didn't answer every sentence of your previous posts and b) now post too much. Just like how you want to act like the Chiefs are the big, bad bullies with a reputation that precedes them and yet there's somehow no pressure on them to perform. Pick a lane.

Baltimore is much healthier, appears to be a major advantage on the injury front. But one positive for KC is that Mahomes was playing on a bad ankle last year and he’s in better shape at the moment.

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Bruh, I like you. You’re cool… BUT… this is trash talk. We don’t need you in here being the voice of reason.

^cherry picked a post and now overcompensating^

Yup, pressure is on the Ravens.

PS. TWO SB MVP's

These clowns actually think Lamar is a better QB than Mahomes?!

Let me see *calculating*


2 out of 5 vs 13 out of 16...


Yes this Math is working...


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Such cope. Trying so hard to hedge your bets so that if you lose you can say that it was "house money" whereas if you win it was an inevitability. Have some conviction!

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Lamar was 21 years old in his first playoff game during his rookie season when he took over halfway through the year. If you want to hold that against him them knock yourself out. Since then, he's 2-2 in the playoffs. He has won two out of his last three playoff games with two out of those three being on the road. There's work to be done, but his playoff resume isn't as bad as it's made out to be.

Lamar is going to have to have a lot more than 150 yards passing if you want to win this week.

And there's no way in hell you're scoring 30+ points.

The Ravens fans really are the dumbest of the lot so far. Embarrassing.

Lamar had more total yards last week against the Texans than Mahomes did against the Bills ;)

You're not even in the same conversation:


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Dude, either you've done it, or you haven't. Maybe Lamar will prove to be an excellent QB in the playoffs, maybe he won't, but he sure as hell hasn't proven anything yet. OTOH, Mahomes has proven himself to be an outstanding playoff QB. Argue what you want, but do NOT come in here and give us crap like this to show us what a great playoff QB Lamar is. We will bury you with Patrick Mahomes playoff superlatives.