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RaidersOftheCellar 12-10-2024 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17852522)
Donovan Smith is still clearly angling to get signed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/VwrEoYjbyU">pic.twitter.com/VwrEoYjbyU</a></p>&mdash; Donovan Smith (@DSmith_76) <a href="https://twitter.com/DSmith_76/status/1866618389860585977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just sign the MFer.

RunKC 12-11-2024 09:34 AM

All 5 of our remaining games including the Chargers are top 10 in team pressure rates.

Cleveland is the best but Zadarius Smith leaving has hurt them

RunKC 12-11-2024 09:55 AM

They rushed him and he got a minor injury. Shocking.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� UPDATE ��<br><br>D.J. Humphries might sit out against the Browns with the idea of returning to the lineup against the Texans.<br><br>No torn hamstring, just a strain. He should be fine in the long run for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/FourGuysInABar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FourGuysInABar</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TalkPrimeTime?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TalkPrimeTime</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BowTieSports_18?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BowTieSports_18</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsInsider?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChiefsInsider</a> <a href="https://t.co/CNlMXKUP74">pic.twitter.com/CNlMXKUP74</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1866825709211267129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 12-11-2024 09:56 AM

That's great news :shrug:

RunKC 12-11-2024 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17852933)
That's great news :shrug:

Not to the doomers.

“I told you he’s a brokedick!!!!”

Preparing myself to see this stupid ass take from the regulars (not you). Reality is he didn’t play a game and needs time to get his body ready. There’s a reason guys sit out camp practices early on. Body gets minor injuries. It’s part of the process.

VAChief 12-11-2024 10:01 AM

Long video, but starting at 32.01 Andrew Whitworth has some interesting things to say about the LT.

https://youtu.be/clWdrJ6J4yM?si=Oa3GA2i6k7oJ8xIU

ThaVirus 12-11-2024 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17852684)
Help? We don't do that around here.

I thought they gave Humphries a good amount of help on Sunday night. More than I was preparing for anyway..

VAChief 12-11-2024 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17852932)
They rushed him and he got a minor injury. Shocking.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� UPDATE ��<br><br>D.J. Humphries might sit out against the Browns with the idea of returning to the lineup against the Texans.<br><br>No torn hamstring, just a strain. He should be fine in the long run for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/FourGuysInABar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FourGuysInABar</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TalkPrimeTime?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TalkPrimeTime</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BowTieSports_18?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BowTieSports_18</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsInsider?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChiefsInsider</a> <a href="https://t.co/CNlMXKUP74">pic.twitter.com/CNlMXKUP74</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1866825709211267129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good news, now go 6 offensive lineman and run the ball against the Browns.

It's a brutal stretch the next 10 days.

philfree 12-11-2024 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17852932)
They rushed him and he got a minor injury. Shocking.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� UPDATE ��<br><br>D.J. Humphries might sit out against the Browns with the idea of returning to the lineup against the Texans.<br><br>No torn hamstring, just a strain. He should be fine in the long run for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/FourGuysInABar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FourGuysInABar</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TalkPrimeTime?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TalkPrimeTime</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BowTieSports_18?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BowTieSports_18</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsInsider?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChiefsInsider</a> <a href="https://t.co/CNlMXKUP74">pic.twitter.com/CNlMXKUP74</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1866825709211267129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

When DJ is ready to play again they need to load manage him with a limited number of snaps in every game till the end of the season. Even if we've clinched HFA he needs to play some snaps in every game and then hopefully there's no setbacks and by the time our playoff game rolls around he'll be ready to play the whole game at a decent level.

Dunerdr 12-11-2024 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17852952)
When DJ is ready to play again they need to load manage him with a limited number of snaps in every game till the end of the season. Even if we've clinched HFA he needs to play some snaps in every game and then hopefully there's no setbacks and by the time our playoff game rolls around he'll be ready to play the whole game at a decent level.

I was thinking this. Maybe you activate Kingley and have guys ready to rotate. Let him hit the sidelines and stretch and rest.

Danguardace 12-11-2024 10:39 AM

He gets a full pass for the Chargers game imo, you can't expect him to be up to speed immediately

Gary Cooper 12-11-2024 10:42 AM

Can Kingsley and Wanya both block Garrett at the same time?

rydogg58 12-11-2024 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17852979)
Can Kingsley and Wanya both block Garrett at the same time?

Based on how they've played so far this year?? I'm gonna go ahead and say it's highly doubtful.

Wanya barely even touching a guys jersey as they run past him makes me sick. At least Kingsley is a rookie, there's still hope for him.

493rd 12-11-2024 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17852979)
Can Kingsley and Wanya both block Garrett at the same time?

Good idea. Let’s ditch RT and start two LTs instead!

-King- 12-11-2024 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17852938)
Not to the doomers.

“I told you he’s a brokedick!!!!”

Preparing myself to see this stupid ass take from the regulars (not you). Reality is he didn’t play a game and needs time to get his body ready. There’s a reason guys sit out camp practices early on. Body gets minor injuries. It’s part of the process.

https://www.heavym.net/wp-content/up...zc5tfecvs.jpeg

BWillie 12-11-2024 11:22 AM

Do not I repeat do not do anything that can put Mahomes at jeopardy from getting hit by that shithead Myles Garrett.

New World Order 12-11-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17852979)
Can Kingsley and Wanya both block Garrett at the same time?

Let’s just send 6 linemen out there every play.

I love it

Couch-Potato 12-11-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17852522)
Donovan Smith is still clearly angling to get signed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/VwrEoYjbyU">pic.twitter.com/VwrEoYjbyU</a></p>&mdash; Donovan Smith (@DSmith_76) <a href="https://twitter.com/DSmith_76/status/1866618389860585977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hilarious.

dirk digler 12-11-2024 12:07 PM

Dreaded day to day lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid said DJ Humphries (tweaked hamstring) will not practice today.<br><br>&quot;We&#39;re just going to take it day by day &amp; see how he does,&quot; Reid said of Humphries.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1866903742450147819?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xztop123 12-11-2024 12:11 PM

This guy is absolutely crucial. He played really well. He only got beat when they stunted and him and thuney didn’t trade blocks.

Megatron96 12-11-2024 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17852932)
They rushed him and he got a minor injury. Shocking.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� UPDATE ��<br><br>D.J. Humphries might sit out against the Browns with the idea of returning to the lineup against the Texans.<br><br>No torn hamstring, just a strain. He should be fine in the long run for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/FourGuysInABar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FourGuysInABar</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TalkPrimeTime?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TalkPrimeTime</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BowTieSports_18?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BowTieSports_18</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsInsider?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChiefsInsider</a> <a href="https://t.co/CNlMXKUP74">pic.twitter.com/CNlMXKUP74</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1866825709211267129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



Woof. Myles may have a career day. This might be a good game to start Wentz.

tyreekthefreak 12-11-2024 12:41 PM

Time to let Driskell play a few snaps. They've kept him on the 53 all season for some reason.....let us see why!

GordonGekko 12-11-2024 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak (Post 17853142)
Time to let Driskell play a few snaps. They've kept him on the 53 all season for some reason.....let us see why!

Against the Browns we have the luxury to experiment at LT a bit, but one wrong hit on Mahomes and the threepeat is over, unless Wentz were to absolutely ball out. I say we sign *gasp* start Wanya and bring in Donovan Smith, just get as many bodies at LT as possible. And then next week start Humphries again.

htismaqe 12-11-2024 12:57 PM

Donovan Smith is not coming guys. That ship has sailed.

VAChief 12-11-2024 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak (Post 17853142)
Time to let Driskell play a few snaps. They've kept him on the 53 all season for some reason.....let us see why!

No, he is still a project at best. Slower feet than Wayna. He's big and that's about it. He has a better chance being a RT or RG with his skill set.

Chief Pagan 12-11-2024 01:00 PM

Wildcat snap to the RB every play.

Do it Andy.

Kman34 12-11-2024 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17853183)
Donovan Smith is not coming guys. That ship has sailed.

Yeah.. Not happening…

TheGuardian 12-11-2024 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17853183)
Donovan Smith is not coming guys. That ship has sailed.

Why do you show up in here and hurt us all like this? Don't you see we're already hurting and you you you you just pour salt in the wound. Let a man dream that we could have a competent left tackle.

htismaqe 12-11-2024 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17853203)
Why do you show up in here and hurt us all like this? Don't you see we're already hurting and you you you you just pour salt in the wound. Let a man dream that we could have a competent left tackle.

LOL

Sorry bro. I will stop now.

RunKC 12-11-2024 01:09 PM

If you get Donovan Smith what difference does it make? He needs game reps just like DJ to get in game shape. Practice isn’t enough.

They both haven’t played in 11 months. They both need the game reps to get in shape. I get people want insurance but Donovan Smith coming into a game without any live game reps will likely not be much better than a healthy Wanya.

BWillie 12-11-2024 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17853183)
Donovan Smith is not coming guys. That ship has sailed.

I dreamed a dream but now that dream is lost from me

wazu 12-11-2024 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17853219)
If you get Donovan Smith what difference does it make? He needs game reps just like DJ to get in game shape. Practice isn’t enough.

They both haven’t played in 11 months. They both need the game reps to get in shape. I get people want insurance but Donovan Smith coming into a game without any live game reps will likely not be much better than a healthy Wanya.

Don’t care. The house is on fire and we’re trying to threepeat. Bring him in and we can rotate until these guys are both 100% by the playoffs.

htismaqe 12-11-2024 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17853219)
If you get Donovan Smith what difference does it make? He needs game reps just like DJ to get in game shape. Practice isn’t enough.

They both haven’t played in 11 months. They both need the game reps to get in shape. I get people want insurance but Donovan Smith coming into a game without any live game reps will likely not be much better than a healthy Wanya.

He wasn't great last year, before sitting out almost a year. I just don't think it moves the needle at all.

ShortRoundChief 12-11-2024 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 17853002)
Good idea. Let’s ditch RT and start two LTs instead!

Max protect. It’ll limit the number of players that Pat can throw to, but he can’t throw to anyone if he’s seeing out of his ear hole.

TheGuardian 12-11-2024 01:49 PM

Best case here is that we just manage to get through the game without Pat getting killed and then Humphies is back soon after that and can solidify that position for the playoffs.

DJ's left nut 12-11-2024 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17853107)
Woof. Myles may have a career day. This might be a good game to start Wentz.

Just run the hurry up offense they ran in that last drive of the 1st half against LAC.

Short, quick throws and heavy on the run. If you drop back more than 3 steps, the ball needs to go at least 25 yards in the air (make the risk worth the reward). And make sure those longer drops are off a play action.

You just have to be more deliberate in your play calling and when you DO call a more aggressive shot play, you have to actually TAKE the shot. If your QB won't stand in there and do so, then don't call the play.

But the first 2-3 drives need to be nothing more than plays that Garrett CAN'T directly impact just to see what it is he's doing out there. If he's just selling out up the arc...well now you know something you didn't. Now you can adjust accordingly.

No reason to start Wentz. You just can't go out there taking 5 and 7 step drops 40+ times.

RunKC 12-11-2024 02:01 PM

My biggest frustration with Andy is his constant insistence to leave tackles on an island. I have never been more frustrated than SB55 when Mahomes ran for his life and Andy just didn’t care.

Leave a TE or RB in to block. Nobody gives a shit if that RB or TE is not a weapon. For the love of God. Line up Firsker inline next to whatever side Garrett’s on and keep him there.

It sucks bc that means a receiving weapon is eliminated but you still have 4 weapons on the field.

No idea why Andy is not doing this.

RunKC 12-11-2024 02:05 PM

Not to change the subject here but I agree with what DJ said during the GDT. Mahomes is missing guys and hurting the OL. He’s gotta get rid of the ball instead of holding it too long.

Perfect example here. Watson wide open and Mahomes just nerfs it. Gotta fire that pass Patrick.

They’ll fix it

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the play Mahomes mentions in the presser, too. Talked about hitting Kelce and just seeing what happens, but if Mahomes gets a tick longer, Watson breaks open on the dig route behind Kelce, which I think is the intention of the play. I talk about it more tonight on RGR! <a href="https://t.co/PfJxPSlFRK">https://t.co/PfJxPSlFRK</a> <a href="https://t.co/sCO9esGZVk">pic.twitter.com/sCO9esGZVk</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms�� (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1866926442929393984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chiefspants 12-11-2024 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17853307)
Just run the hurry up offense they ran in that last drive of the 1st half against LAC.

Short, quick throws and heavy on the run. If you drop back more than 3 steps, the ball needs to go at least 25 yards in the air (make the risk worth the reward). And make sure those longer drops are off a play action.

You just have to be more deliberate in your play calling and when you DO call a more aggressive shot play, you have to actually TAKE the shot. If your QB won't stand in there and do so, then don't call the play.

But the first 2-3 drives need to be nothing more than plays that Garrett CAN'T directly impact just to see what it is he's doing out there. If he's just selling out up the arc...well now you know something you didn't. Now you can adjust accordingly.

No reason to start Wentz. You just can't go out there taking 5 and 7 step drops 40+ times.

Nothing is quite as puzzling to me as Andy’s resistance to the hurry up. It’s what flipped the tide in SB54 and yet we’ve come in last multiple times in the Mahomes era in using it for our offense.

-King- 12-11-2024 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17853321)
Nothing is quite as puzzling to me as Andy’s resistance to the hurry up. It’s what flipped the tide in SB54 and yet we’ve come in last multiple times in the Mahomes era in using it for our offense.

Because we insist on having 50 different packages of players that for some reason we have to rotate through.

stumppy 12-11-2024 02:25 PM

The day to day death sentence.:shake:

T-post Tom 12-11-2024 02:55 PM

Coach Reid (about an hour ago):

“D.J. Humphries won’t practice,” revealed Reid. “Again, we haven’t listed him as out or anything there, so we’re just going to take it day-by-day and see how he does. Every day, he’s gotten a little bit better, so we’ll see how all that works.”

Megatron96 12-11-2024 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17853307)
Just run the hurry up offense they ran in that last drive of the 1st half against LAC.

Short, quick throws and heavy on the run. If you drop back more than 3 steps, the ball needs to go at least 25 yards in the air (make the risk worth the reward). And make sure those longer drops are off a play action.

You just have to be more deliberate in your play calling and when you DO call a more aggressive shot play, you have to actually TAKE the shot. If your QB won't stand in there and do so, then don't call the play.

But the first 2-3 drives need to be nothing more than plays that Garrett CAN'T directly impact just to see what it is he's doing out there. If he's just selling out up the arc...well now you know something you didn't. Now you can adjust accordingly.

No reason to start Wentz. You just can't go out there taking 5 and 7 step drops 40+ times.


Well, it was a joke about starting Wentz. Obviously, that's never going to happen while Pat is actually healthy. Just don't want to see Pat getting destroyed by Myles.

As for the game, I figure they'll take away Travis and DHop, probably have Denzel Ward on DHop most of the game. That leaves Watson, JuJu, Worthy and I guess Gray, having to step up to replace a large percentage of their production. So those guys are going to have to get open early and often.

I wonder if we'll see more moving pockets in this one? I'd do it, with Garrett out there.

FringeNC 12-11-2024 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17853183)
Donovan Smith is not coming guys. That ship has sailed.

Given that we haven't signed him, they don't view DJ's injury as serious. There is simply no way you go into the playoffs with Morris as LT.

htismaqe 12-11-2024 03:22 PM

If Humphries got hurt right now and missed the playoffs, I'd bet Wanya takes the snaps. I just don't see them signing Smith at this point.

Hammock Parties 12-11-2024 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17853430)
If Humphries got hurt right now and missed the playoffs, I'd bet Wanya takes the snaps. I just don't see them signing Smith at this point.

Wanya just needs to get his knee right.

Ethan Driskell needs to start the last two games if we clinch vs HOU.

tredadda 12-11-2024 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17853437)
Wanya just needs to get his knee right.

Ethan Driskell needs to start the last two games if we clinch vs HOU.

With Wentz under center.

Easy 6 12-11-2024 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17852684)
Help? We don't do that around here.

We damn well better start doing it, starting sunday

DJ's left nut 12-11-2024 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17853408)
Well, it was a joke about starting Wentz. Obviously, that's never going to happen while Pat is actually healthy. Just don't want to see Pat getting destroyed by Myles.

As for the game, I figure they'll take away Travis and DHop, probably have Denzel Ward on DHop most of the game. That leaves Watson, JuJu, Worthy and I guess Gray, having to step up to replace a large percentage of their production. So those guys are going to have to get open early and often.

I wonder if we'll see more moving pockets in this one? I'd do it, with Garrett out there.

Hopkins can body off Ward should Mahomes choose to go that route. Newsome is actually their more physical CB but I think he's hurt.

I'd actually put Ward on Worthy as Ward has the athleticism to hang with him. At least he did - he's lost some burst in recent years but he's still easily Clevelands most athletic CB.

Megatron96 12-11-2024 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17853570)
Hopkins can body off Ward should Mahomes choose to go that route. Newsome is actually their more physical CB but I think he's hurt.

I'd actually put Ward on Worthy as Ward has the athleticism to hang with him. At least he did - he's lost some burst in recent years but he's still easily Clevelands most athletic CB.



DHop can, but will Pat throw to him anyway? haven't seen much of that so far, and that's kind of what I was thinking. And yeah, Ward on Worthy might be the other way Schwartz could go. It'll be interesting to see how they play it. Maybe a mix back and forth.

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2024 05:27 PM

****ing hate the nfls scheduling bullshit. We need to get humphries reps with the starters. If hes too hurt to play this week, are we really gonna play humphries versus Houston only to rest a few days til the next one?

It makes me think humphries will start versus Houston then sit on Christmas. Hopefully our season is well in hand by then.

Coochie liquor 12-11-2024 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rydogg58 (Post 17852994)
Based on how they've played so far this year?? I'm gonna go ahead and say it's highly doubtful.

Wanya barely even touching a guys jersey as they run past him makes me sick. At least Kingsley is a rookie, there's still hope for him.

Line up Wayna at LT, and have Kingsley in the backfield next to Pat on the side Garrett is on.

Megatron96 12-11-2024 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17853646)
Line up Wayna at LT, and have Kingsley in the backfield next to Pat on the side Garrett is on.



So, it will take 2.5 seconds for Garrett to get to Pat, instead of just 2.1. Well, at least they'll get some reps against an elite pass-rusher. Maybe they'll learn from it.

Titty Meat 12-11-2024 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17853256)
He wasn't great last year, before sitting out almost a year. I just don't think it moves the needle at all.

People think that old broke dick who hasn't even played in almost a year would come in and be a savior. Jesus christ this board is ****ing reeruned

VAChief 12-12-2024 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17853437)
Wanya just needs to get his knee right.

Ethan Driskell needs to start the last two games if we clinch vs HOU.

Why Driskell and not Kingsley? Let Wentz go the last two and put Kingsley there to get some work.

I don't get this fascination with an UDFA with slow feet.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ethan-...1-4a84aea9700f

Weaknesses:

Grass pounder with heavy feet up to the second level.
Will need to widen out his base for improved finish rate.
Below-average hand quickness and hand placement.
Likely to struggle with NFL speed to the top of the rush.
Wide hands and average core power hinder his mirror.

VAChief 12-12-2024 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17853320)
Not to change the subject here but I agree with what DJ said during the GDT. Mahomes is missing guys and hurting the OL. He’s gotta get rid of the ball instead of holding it too long.

Perfect example here. Watson wide open and Mahomes just nerfs it. Gotta fire that pass Patrick.

They’ll fix it

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the play Mahomes mentions in the presser, too. Talked about hitting Kelce and just seeing what happens, but if Mahomes gets a tick longer, Watson breaks open on the dig route behind Kelce, which I think is the intention of the play. I talk about it more tonight on RGR! <a href="https://t.co/PfJxPSlFRK">https://t.co/PfJxPSlFRK</a> <a href="https://t.co/sCO9esGZVk">pic.twitter.com/sCO9esGZVk</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms�� (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1866926442929393984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He looks like he was staring down DHop a little too long and then looked deep. Watson was probably the 4th read, when against that defense, he or Kelce should have been 1 and 2 underneath with quick throws.

VAChief 12-12-2024 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17853437)
Wanya just needs to get his knee right.

Ethan Driskell needs to start the last two games if we clinch vs HOU.

Why Driskell and not Kingsley? Let Went go the last two and put Kingsley there to get some work.

I don't get this fascination with a UDFA with slow feet.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ethan-...1-4a84aea9700f

Weaknesses:

Grass pounder with heavy feet up to the second level.
Will need to widen out his base for improved finish rate.
Below-average hand quickness and hand placement.
Likely to struggle with NFL speed to the top of the rush.
Wide hands and average core power hinder his mirror.

Dunerdr 12-12-2024 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 17853973)
Why Driskell and not Kingsley? Let Went go the last two and put Kingsley there to get some work.

I don't get this fascination with a UDFA with slow feet.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ethan-...1-4a84aea9700f

Weaknesses:

Grass pounder with heavy feet up to the second level.
Will need to widen out his base for improved finish rate.
Below-average hand quickness and hand placement.
Likely to struggle with NFL speed to the top of the rush.
Wide hands and average core power hinder his mirror.

Because half of this board already wrote Kingsley off as if tackles don't develop.

Warpaint69 12-12-2024 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17853999)
Because half of this board already wrote Kingsley off as if tackles don't develop.

He's just simply not ready in his technique and for the speed of the NFL with that jump from BYU. It was known he might need some development when he was drafted.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-12-2024 08:52 AM

Newsome is out.

If Worthy gets some matchups on Emerson, there's gonna be opportunities to run by him if he can beat the physicality.

O.city 12-12-2024 09:15 AM

I know why they did it, but I think it was a mistake to move off Kingsley so fast.

duncan_idaho 12-12-2024 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17854012)
Newsome is out.

If Worthy gets some matchups on Emerson, there's gonna be opportunities to run by him if he can beat the physicality.

That's interesting.

The Browns' D is an interesting matchup for the Chiefs. They're aggressive and give up explosive plays, but are good at creating short drives and forcing punts when they DON'T give up big plays.

KC has been, very much, an offense that is methodical and executes to chew up yards and go on drives.

One of those things has to give. Which is it? If it isn't the Chiefs' offense creating some explosive plays, could be a long, grind-y day.

On offense, the only thing the Browns really do well is create big plays down the field. That's been a problem area for KC since Watson went down.

Dunerdr 12-12-2024 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17854028)
I know why they did it, but I think it was a mistake to move off Kingsley so fast.

I see both ways. Trial by fire is needed some times, but maybe they felt more practice reps was the way to go.

UChieffyBugger 12-12-2024 09:28 AM

In reality Morris's two horror shows were against one team (Vegas). He's played against Nick Bosa, faced the Chargers twice, came in and faced Hendrickson etc. The Browns were scary when they had Smith opposite Garrett but hopefully now Andy can give Morris help and be smart with the scheme. Wear him down early and take advantage late.

O.city 12-12-2024 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17854033)
I see both ways. Trial by fire is needed some times, but maybe they felt more practice reps was the way to go.

That was just always gonna be that way though. I dunno why they were so caught off guard by it.

Kman34 12-12-2024 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17854034)
In reality Morris's two horror shows were against one team (Vegas). He's played against Nick Bosa, faced the Chargers twice, came in and faced Hendrickson etc. The Browns were scary when they had Smith opposite Garrett but hopefully now Andy can give Morris help and be smart with the scheme. Wear him down early and take advantage late.

Yeah, Didn’t really think about that. I’m sure Andy and Nagy are game planing moving pockets and short hitting pass plays… The screen game needs to make an appearance…The coaching staff know what they are dealing with whether Morris or DJ is playing..

RaidersOftheCellar 12-12-2024 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17853107)
Woof. Myles may have a career day. This might be a good game to start Wentz.

Nah. They need to wrap this up so they can sit guys vs Pittsburgh.

htismaqe 12-12-2024 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17854050)
Yeah, Didn’t really think about that. I’m sure Andy and Nagy are game planing moving pockets and short hitting pass plays… The screen game needs to make an appearance…The coaching staff know what they are dealing with whether Morris or DJ is playing..

The last few times they've called a screen, nobody blocked. And I'm not talking about the tackles, I'm talking about the IOL.

It doesn't matter what plays are called if they can't execute.

BlackOp 12-12-2024 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17854052)
Nah. They need to wrap this up so they can sit guys vs Pittsburgh.

There could be some gamesmanship here too..if the Steelers win the division then the Ravens could be playing at KC for round two.

Ravens win the division...they would likely go to the Bills in round two. Bills are the only team to beat KC...and the Ravens throttled Buffalo. It's a bad match-up for them...

Ravens/Steelers play the Sunday before the KC/Steelers match-up...so the outcome could factor in how they approach it.

If the Chiefs are at 13-1 (coupled with a Buffalo loss to the Lions), they can actually...to a certain extent, dictate who their likely opponent would be in the divisional round.

Would KC eat a potential loss and play vanilla against the Steelers - if it meant they would have to play the Ravens?

pugsnotdrugs19 12-12-2024 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17854030)
That's interesting.

The Browns' D is an interesting matchup for the Chiefs. They're aggressive and give up explosive plays, but are good at creating short drives and forcing punts when they DON'T give up big plays.

KC has been, very much, an offense that is methodical and executes to chew up yards and go on drives.

One of those things has to give. Which is it? If it isn't the Chiefs' offense creating some explosive plays, could be a long, grind-y day.

On offense, the only thing the Browns really do well is create big plays down the field. That's been a problem area for KC since Watson went down.

If Schwartz gets blitz happy as he tends to do in the past, I think Mahomes will make them pay often. If he does the smart thing and just rushes 3-4... could be a real challenge. Need the jet sweeps to be impactful towards Garrett and all that other jazz they like to present to elite DEs.

O.city 12-12-2024 10:11 AM

Just score points and stop playing close games against shitty teams.

RunKC 12-12-2024 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17854087)
Just score points and stop playing close games against shitty teams.

3rd quarter scores:

Panthers: 27-16
Raiders: 16-3
Chargers: 13-0

They’ve been a solid first half team, elite 4th quarter team and horrific in the 3rd quarter.

Not sure what’s happening but they need to fix that

BlackOp 12-12-2024 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17854087)
Just score points and stop playing close games against shitty teams.

Chiefs red-zone offense has been atrocious...they'll go like 1-5 in these close games. It's WHY they are in all these nail-biters. They can drive down there just fine...

I'm telling myself this is deliberate and they arent showing anything until they have to..

O.city 12-12-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17854094)
3rd quarter scores:

Panthers: 27-16
Raiders: 16-3
Chargers: 13-0

They’ve been a solid first half team, elite 4th quarter team and horrific in the 3rd quarter.

Not sure what’s happening but they need to fix that

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17854097)
Chiefs red-zone offense has been atrocious...they'll go like 1-5 in these close games. It's WHY they are in all these nail-biters.

I'm telling myself this is deliberate and they arent showing anything until they have to..

They're not playing well enough, whatever we wanna tell ourselves. Put teams away and be done with it.

They're not good in the redzone for a miriad of reasons.

RunKC 12-12-2024 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17854097)
Chiefs red-zone offense has been atrocious...they'll go like 1-5 in these close games. It's WHY they are in all these nail-biters. They can drive down there just fine...

I'm telling myself this is deliberate and they arent showing anything until they have to..

The biggest problem with the Chiefs is explosive plays.

They haven’t generated hardly any on offense and their defense is starting to give up more.

The offense has to wake up and start converting more in the red zone.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-12-2024 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17854087)
Just score points and stop playing close games against shitty teams.

I hear that but CLE isn't as shitty as record says. They suffered an awful fate as a team having to play with Watson until he took them to what, 1-6 or something?

With Winston all year, they're probably a 5-8 to 7-6 team by now.

BlackOp 12-12-2024 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17854094)
3rd quarter scores:

Panthers: 27-16
Raiders: 16-3
Chargers: 13-0

They’ve been a solid first half team, elite 4th quarter team and horrific in the 3rd quarter.

Not sure what’s happening but they need to fix that

Got to keep those eyeball$ glued to the screen...

BlackOp 12-12-2024 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17854102)
The biggest problem with the Chiefs is explosive plays.

They haven’t generated hardly any on offense and their defense is starting to give up more.

The offense has to wake up and start converting more in the red zone.

What will be the explanation when they suddenly start happening right before the post-season?

Gary Cooper 12-12-2024 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17854094)
3rd quarter scores:

Panthers: 27-16
Raiders: 16-3
Chargers: 13-0

They’ve been a solid first half team, elite 4th quarter team and horrific in the 3rd quarter.

Not sure what’s happening but they need to fix that

Same thing that's been happening for years. When this team is ahead, they relax on both sides of the ball and don't play with urgency. When they're behind, they become a force offensively and march down the field and score a TD.

It's been that way for years. Not just this season or the last few weeks. People are complaining about blowouts this year but we haven't had many under Reid/Mahomes. All they do is win games. Mostly close games. This season has been a more extreme example I admit, because they've been cutting it too close on many of these. But the pattern is similar as other years. It's just getting more attention now than before.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-12-2024 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17854129)
Same thing that's been happening for years. When this team is ahead, they relax on both sides of the ball and don't play with urgency. When they're behind, they become a force offensively and march down the field and score a TD.

It's been that way for years. Not just this season or the last few weeks. People are complaining about blowouts this year but we haven't had many under Reid/Mahomes. All they do is win games. Mostly close games. This season has been a more extreme example I admit, because they've been cutting it too close on many of these. But the pattern is similar as other years. It's just getting more attention now than before.

Good take. And.... people are looking for ways to denigrate and tear the Chiefs down this year more than ever.

It's no different than when New England in their prime would have one bad game and some people would pronounce them D.O.A. for the playoffs, in which case it was only true in 2019 when the dam finally broke on Brady/Belichick.

I remember thinking after the Miami Miracle in 2018, plus losing another game to Pittsburgh the following week, that they weren't a Super Bowl caliber team. But that was just wishful thinking because I wanted the Chiefs to win and was tired of NE. Then the playoffs began and they were like a different football team again.

The same is repeating now with Kansas City where haters are going to find any little reason they can to believe they aren't going to win it all again. Year after year. Some years they'll be happy, some years they won't. Either way, they got a shot every year as long as Pat is here and it doesn't really matter how the games look until the playoffs start.


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