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Sassy Squatch 09-29-2018 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13773116)
Yeah that's why I hope we get Earl Thomas.
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Sorry, but I just can't get too excited over the prospect of having to go out and overpay for Earl Thomas because of our own incompetence.

RINGLEADER 09-29-2018 05:11 PM

If Earl Thomas can win one game for the Chiefs they should do it. Because that one game could be in the playoffs.

htismaqe 09-29-2018 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13773122)
Sorry, but I just can't get too excited over the prospect of having to go out and overpay for Earl Thomas because of our own incompetence.

Why do you care? Is it your money?

And seriously, how do you define "overpay" for a perennial All-Pro?

What are you afraid of? It's like battered fan syndrome or something. Chiefs fans have been conditioned by years of failure to believe that deals like this not only don't happen, they CAN'T happen.

Sassy Squatch 09-29-2018 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13773125)
Why do you care? Is it your money?

And seriously, how do you define "overpay" for a perennial All-Pro?

What are you afraid of? It's like battered fan syndrome or something. Chiefs fans have been conditioned by years of failure to believe that deals like this not only don't happen, they CAN'T happen.

Oh, I believe it can happen. Having to give up a 1st plus and give him a contract making him the highest paid safety in the league gets it done now. Is that worth it? Not to me.

htismaqe 09-29-2018 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13773126)
Oh, I believe it can happen. Having to give up a 1st plus and give him a contract making him the highest paid safety in the league gets it done now. Is that worth it? Not to me.

Again, why?

It isn't your money. And we don't really need any more Dee Ford's. So why are you so hung up on potential compensation?

htismaqe 09-29-2018 05:17 PM

Is it because you're afraid he'll play well enough to save Sutton's job?

I wonder if Bears fans wrung their hands about giving up 2 firsts for Khalil Mack?

Sassy Squatch 09-29-2018 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13773128)
Again, why?

It isn't your money. And we don't really need any more Dee Ford's. So why are you so hung up on potential compensation?

Haven't I made that clear already? He's going to be 30 next year, he doesn't actually guarantee us shit in the form of winning games, that "compensation" could help us a hell of a lot in the future, and I actually plan to be a Chiefs fan for longer than this year. I know you're desperate for them to win it all this year and be done with them, but that's not me.

dlphg9 09-29-2018 05:19 PM

I'd give up a 2nd and a 5th for him. Chances are pretty high that those players won't be starters. Hell I'd give up a 1st and 5th for him. Maybe both of our 2nds for him.

htismaqe 09-29-2018 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13773131)
Haven't I made that clear already? He's going to be 30 next year, he doesn't actually guarantee us shit in the form of winning games, that "compensation" could help us a hell of a lot in the future, and I actually plan to be a Chiefs fan for longer than this year. I know you're desperate for them to win it all this year and be done with them, but that's not me.

There's always next year.

Sassy Squatch 09-29-2018 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13773130)
Is it because you're afraid he'll play well enough to save Sutton's job?

I wonder if Bears fans wrung their hands about giving up 2 firsts for Khalil Mack?

I mean, if Earl Thomas was anywhere near as valuable as Khalil Mack there would be teams jumping over each other to throw picks at the Seahawks just for the right to sign him. But there isn't.

Sassy Squatch 09-29-2018 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13773133)
There's always next year.

You don't care if they have to mortgage the future to win now. I disagree to an extent. Let's just leave it at that.

htismaqe 09-29-2018 05:24 PM

Trading for Earl Thomas doesn't hurt this team's future at all.

1) He's a FS. He could play another 4 years easy. Every bit as long as a draft pick.

2) There's a ton of money going to come off the books next year and after. His salary will be EASY to absorb, even if he's the highest-paid safety in the league.

3) So far, this regime's defensive drafts have demonstrated at least partially that they don't know how to fix this defense through the draft. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

There's no reason not to do this deal, not only for this year but for the next 2 or 3.

htismaqe 09-29-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13773136)
I mean, if Earl Thomas was anywhere near as valuable as Khalil Mack there would be teams jumping over each other to throw picks at the Seahawks just for the right to sign him. But there isn't.

We have no idea who is inquiring or what is going on behind the scenes.

Sassy Squatch 09-29-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13773139)
Trading for Earl Thomas doesn't hurt this team's future at all.

1) He's a FS. He could play another 4 years easy. Every bit as long as a draft pick.

2) There's a ton of money going to come off the books next year and after. His salary will be EASY to absorb, even if he's the highest-paid safety in the league.

3) So far, this regime's defensive drafts have demonstrated at least partially that they don't know how to fix this defense through the draft. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

There's no reason not to do this deal, not only for this year but for the next 2 or 3.

Hey, we disagree. Its okay, dude.

htismaqe 09-29-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13773138)
You don't care if they have to mortgage the future to win now. I disagree to an extent. Let's just leave it at that.

You're right, I don't care about mortgaging the future.

But they wouldn't be mortgaging the future anyway. That's a myth that teams foist on fans to justify standing pat and doing nothing.


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