Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9865603)

Yeah, OK.

We'll see "what happens" with Sean Smith this season.

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Originally Posted by Jersey49chief (Post 9865601)

He has already proven to be clutch, and win those grind games. In which, as you know, grind games don't have to be high scoring. Just which teams offense can put up that winning score, or in some cases, drive the ball down the field for the winning FG if need be.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9865603)

Yeah, OK.

We'll see "what happens" with Sean Smith this season.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9865613)

LMAO

****ing weak though not quite as weak as you claiming that Geno Smith is "unknown" after the homoerotic posts you've displayed for the ten months.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9865618)

Sean smith is better than brandon carr

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9865595)

You see, the problem is that you present these arguments as though they are the crafted thoughts of your own exhaustive, first-hand research.

They are not. They are you looking at a website that ranks players according to their own analysis. What's wrong with that, you ask?

I will tell you.

Player X is a 5'9, 190 lb cornerback who was playing in a cover-2 zone scheme where he relied on safety help over the top. His particular coaches always kept him on the right side of the field. Other teams would line up their largest receivers on him to create a height mismatch. Meanwhile, it was recognized on film that the safety assigned with helping him would bite at least one step on play-action. Not enough to take him completely out of the play, but enough to get him a step out of position. Player X is a good player. He is coachable. He didn't press the receiver, because his coaches don't believe in gambling. They wanted him to contain the big play so as not to put pressure on his game manager QB.

Player Y is 6'1, 210 pounds, and he is not coachable. He doesn't listen to his DC who tells him they'd rather give up an 8 yard gain and live to fight another day than get beat over the top. His safety is extremely smart and extremely disciplined. His safety is constantly diagnosing plays and calling them out before they even happen. This gives Player Y the confidence to jump routes, which he does often. He knows that he will either get the interception or his safety will be behind him for the help, which he almost always is. For this reason, they are statistically the most effective secondary duo in the league. When Player Y gets beat bad, it rarely shows up, because his safety help is there to prevent a big gain.

Now, Player X and Player Y are both unrestricted free agents. You log onto your good ol' PFF where they have Player X as giving up 8.9 YPC and Player Y giving up 6.7.

You want Player Y. You say he's better. The evidence clearly proves it.

Except... it doesn't.

The PFF guys look at that and they determine Player X is playing off the receiver and doesn't have the closing speed to defend the pass. Fine, but that's what he was told to do. And the PFF guys don't tell you they made this judgment call. You aren't privy to that individual, play-by-play analysis.

In fact, there IS no individual, play-by-play analysis. Because guess what? In order to do that, you need a crew of guys working almost around the clock for every single team.

You know what that's called? Position coaches.

Five guys on a website do not analyze 64 starting cornerbacks with the insight and accuracy that 64 guys (call it two coaches per team) will.

And the fact is, when dealing with free agents, you cannot compare them to the entire league. You have to compare them to only the OTHER AVAILABLE PLAYERS. (this argument is a little moving-the-goalposts, but I still think it's worth mentioning).

This is why I don't just blindly look at statistical analysis from a fan-run website and call it gospel.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9865618)

Sean smith is better than brandon carr

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9865610)

One playoff run.

And really only respectable for 1.5 years...

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9865610)

One playoff run.

And really only respectable for 1.5 years...

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9865628)

In fairness you have to believe 10 games into last season he was taking them to the playoffs, that was a lock.

And really who knows what happens if he is the QB the whole season into the playoffs? He took that same team to the brink of a SB so he could have done it again or made it to the SB.

Anyone who says they KNOW he couldn't have is being disingenuous.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9865632)

The only thing I know is that defense started allowing a lot of pts as the season went on and in the playoffs.

I don't think that Smith led offense would have scored enough to win/come back in some of those games...

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9865628)

In fairness you have to believe 10 games into last season he was taking them to the playoffs, that was a lock.

And really who knows what happens if he is the QB the whole season into the playoffs? (minus the 1 game due to injury) He took that same team to the brink of a SB so he could have done it again or made it to the SB.

Anyone who says they KNOW he couldn't have is being disingenuous.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9865640)

I'd love to see a breakdown of Kaep's time of possession compared to Smiths. I have a theory that it might have attributed to some of the issues they had later in the season as opposed to earlier, but that won't hold water if they are similar.