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Hammock Parties 11-10-2021 04:28 PM

You disagree? Why such a wild disparity in his YPC, then? The same was true last season.

It is a fantasy to say he can be a 5 YPC guy.

ToxSocks 11-10-2021 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15947410)
All that can really be said to his defenders right now is, show me

Whole lotta talk about how he's been unfairly badmouthed, well he'll be back in the rotation soon, so... show me

Actually do WANT to be wrong about him, we'll see...

What would you like to see?

He's averaging 4.7 YPC and has two 100+ yard games out of 5.

Considering he's gotten 15+ Carries (17) ONCE this season, im not sure what you expect with such limited opportunities. Even in his limited roll, he was producing.

ToxSocks 11-10-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15947421)
You disagree? Why such a wild disparity in his YPC, then? The same was true last season.

It is a fantasy to say he can be a 5 YPC guy.

Through 18 career games he has a 4.5 YPC.

The only fantasy is thinking you have solid football takes.

RaidersOftheCellar 11-10-2021 04:33 PM

I'm thinking that CEH is a little undervalued.

Is it pure coincidence that this offense transformed from arguably the best in the league into a very mediocre offense immediately after he went down?

ToxSocks 11-10-2021 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15947421)
Why such a wild disparity in his YPC, then? The same was true last season.

Because he's a ****ing RB, do you even football? Holy mother of christ.

Here's Henry's YPC's this season:

3.4
5.2
4.04
4.76
4.48
7.15
2.97
2.43

It's all over the goddamn place, lol. That's pretty damn normal. From 2.43 to 7.15.

ToxSocks 11-10-2021 04:36 PM

Jonathon Taylor, everyone's girl who got away:

High: 10.36

Low: 3.29

ToxSocks 11-10-2021 04:37 PM

Nick Chubb:

High: 9.79

Low: 3.81

Easy 6 11-10-2021 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15947423)
What would you like to see?

He's averaging 4.7 YPC and has two 100+ yard games out of 5.

Considering he's gotten 15+ Carries (17) ONCE this season, im not sure what you expect with such limited opportunities. Even in his limited roll, he was producing.

How about...

1) Better consistency
2) Prove to be effective in the pass game
3) Display the vision needed to exploit the cavernous holes this line opens

Speaking of limited opportunities, its a fair question to ask WHY his opps are so limited... is Reid carelessly ignoring Clydes pass game prowess? Maybe, but its also perfectly reasonable to assume he isn't displaying the necessary traits in practice

ptlyon 11-10-2021 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15947442)
Because he's a ****ing RB, do you even football? Holy mother of christ.

His sources brah

ToxSocks 11-10-2021 04:40 PM

Do more, Detoxing, do more!

Ok, sure.

Joe Mixon:

High: 5.22

Low: 2.36

Hammock Parties 11-10-2021 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15947447)
Jonathon Taylor, everyone's girl who got away:

High: 10.36

Low: 3.29

Kind of my point.

Clyde will never have a 10 YPC game.

His last game was 1.86 YPC though. Gross.

ToxSocks 11-10-2021 04:41 PM

That's your top 4 RB's in the league right now, GoChiefs.

I hope you've learned something.

Or do you wanna argue that the top 4 RB's in the league suck because they have certain games that they go off, and certain games that they don't?

ToxSocks 11-10-2021 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15947452)
How about...

1) Better consistency
2) Prove to be effective in the pass game
3) Display the vision needed to exploit the cavernous holes this line opens

Speaking of limited opportunities, its a fair question to ask WHY his opps are so limited... is Reid carelessly ignoring Clydes pass game prowess? Maybe, but its also perfectly reasonable to assume he isn't displaying the necessary traits in practice

Reid has never used RB's at a high volume. Even when he had JC.

The fact is that CEH is getting MAYBE 15 touches a game and then everyone is asking why he doesn't produce like Henry, Mixon, Chubb and all these other high volume backs.

Even though his YPC is right in line with all of these top backs.

The reason for that is simple. Bad arguments, fake narratives due to frustration and overall poor analysis. GoChiefs level analysis.

ToxSocks 11-10-2021 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15947456)
Kind of my point.

Clyde will never have a 10 YPC game.

His last game was 1.86 YPC though. Gross.

No, it isn't your point. Your point is that his YPC through 18 games shouldn't count because there's a few games he goes off and few games he doesn't.

That's your argument. And that's a stupid one. Because as i've pointed it, such is the nature of that position in the NFL.

It's kinda like the Chris Jones dumbass arguments.

"Well he doesn't get sacks every week therefore he sucks. We should cut him".

It's just...poorly thought out arguments.

Pitt Gorilla 11-10-2021 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15947463)
Reid has never used RB's at a high volume. Even when he had JC.

The fact is that CEH is getting MAYBE 15 touches a game and then everyone is asking why he doesn't produce like Henry, Mixon, Chubb and all these other high volume backs.

Even though his YPC is right in line with all of these top backs.

The reason for that is simple. Bad arguments, fake narratives due to frustration and overall poor analysis. GoChiefs level analysis.

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