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tk13 03-01-2016 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12108309)
Yeah, there's a growing number of people on the Royals subreddit who think trading Hos after 16 is the way to go.

**** that noise. I don't care what the next year brings, you simply don't gut a WS caliber team.

Absolutely not. No they likely won't be as good after 17, but they'll still have Gordon and Perez. Ventura will be entering his prime and he's locked up long term. And hopefully they can sign Moose or Hos. Then add Mondesi and Cuthbert to the mix, maybe Starling can come around, plus Zimmer, Almonte, maybe Ashe Russell. Plus any contracts they hand out will be mostly under a new TV contract. It hopefully won't be that bleak.

Mr. Laz 03-01-2016 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12108309)
Yeah, there's a growing number of people on the Royals subreddit who think trading Hos after 16 is the way to go.

**** that noise. I don't care what the next year brings, you simply don't gut a WS caliber team.

Hosmer's agent is Boras

It might come down to 'trade him or lose him for nothing'


unless Hos has a bad year, Boras will be shooting for a bigger market

Mr. Laz 03-01-2016 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12108092)
I love me some LoCain but it's absolutely right to be very cautious with an aging outfielder who's value on both sides relates to his legs.

Cain is still probably our best player overall

DaneMcCloud 03-01-2016 09:06 PM

Thanks to everyone for their MLB.TV recommendations.

I'm definitely in.

:D

BigCatDaddy 03-01-2016 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12108419)
Hosmer's agent is Boras

It might come down to 'trade him or lose him for nothing'


unless Hos has a bad year, Boras will be shooting for a bigger market

At worst they would get a pick for the qualifying offer. They wont end up with nothing.

Chiefspants 03-01-2016 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12108419)
Hosmer's agent is Boras

It might come down to 'trade him or lose him for nothing'


unless Hos has a bad year, Boras will be shooting for a bigger market

Uh, a potential WS in 2017 isn't "nothing".

Championships are why you play the game.

Mr. Laz 03-01-2016 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12108436)
At worst they would get a pick for the qualifying offer. They wont end up with nothing.

I imagine they will wait until it's a trade deadline situation for it anyway.

If we are out of it, try to make a killing from some team desperate for a bat.

lewdog 03-01-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12108433)
Thanks to everyone for their MLB.TV recommendations.

I'm definitely in.

:D

So what'd you do? Take the $85 single team package for the Royals?

eDave 03-01-2016 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12108479)
So what'd you do? Take the $85 single team package for the Royals?

Cheapest route. The dude only gives his kids $5/tooth FFS.

DaneMcCloud 03-01-2016 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12108479)
So what'd you do? Take the $85 single team package for the Royals?

I haven't signed up yet but I'm going to do the full deal, even though I probably won't use it.

I just like the option of watching other teams, especially during the day.

It might be fun to watch the Cubbies day games this season.

Chiefs Pantalones 03-01-2016 09:33 PM

Stopped by the Surprise Complex today and got my daughter a spring training Royals hat. She's almost 2 but she knows where we're going Saturday lol.

DaneMcCloud 03-01-2016 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12108486)
Cheapest route. The dude only gives his kids $5/tooth FFS.

Well played

:clap:

duncan_idaho 03-01-2016 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12108425)
Cain is still probably our best player overall

Right now? Yes. In 2018? He might be then, too. The question is if you give him a lucrative long-term deal for age 32-on, how does he hold up? If he stops putting up elite defensive and baserunning contributions and stops getting 20 leg hits a year, are you still getting enough from him for what you're going to pay him?

If he hits at the same level in 2016 and 2017 as he did in 2015, then year, you probably feel pretty good about that.

Hell, if he hits at the same level in 2016, you can start talking to him then, probably, and feel pretty good about him holding up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12108419)
Hosmer's agent is Boras

It might come down to 'trade him or lose him for nothing'


unless Hos has a bad year, Boras will be shooting for a bigger market

It won't come down to losing him for nothing. If he leaves as a FA, there will be some sort of compensation for KC. It makes no sense to move that key of a member of the team before the 2017 season, a season in which KC will be expecting to repeat regardless of what happens this season.

I also no longer am 100 percent certain Hosmer will leave. If his play levels out where it did last season, they will have a chance to keep him. Maybe not a great one, but better than zero.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12108309)
Yeah, there's a growing number of people on the Royals subreddit who think trading Hos after 16 is the way to go.

**** that noise. I don't care what the next year brings, you simply don't gut a WS caliber team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12108353)
Absolutely not. No they likely won't be as good after 17, but they'll still have Gordon and Perez. Ventura will be entering his prime and he's locked up long term. And hopefully they can sign Moose or Hos. Then add Mondesi and Cuthbert to the mix, maybe Starling can come around, plus Zimmer, Almonte, maybe Ashe Russell. Plus any contracts they hand out will be mostly under a new TV contract. It hopefully won't be that bleak.

It's that way on the Scout board, too. I just don't get it. The logic of trading away a piece that can help you have a championship type season NOW to get guys who may help and who may not help you get back to that point down the road is just silly.

srvy 03-01-2016 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12108521)
I haven't signed up yet but I'm going to do the full deal, even though I probably won't use it.

I just like the option of watching other teams, especially during the day.

It might be fun to watch the Cubbies day games this season.

If you can hold out to around Fathers Day it gets a pretty fair discount close to 50% off.

DaneMcCloud 03-01-2016 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12108563)
If you can hold out to around Fathers Day it gets a pretty fair discount close to 50% off.

Thanks man but I can't miss a full month of baseball to save a few bucks.


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