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TEX 11-15-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15956872)
Where would we be if we drafted Tee Higgins instead of Clyde? Could really use a 3rd receiver like that guy

True. But I was all in on Jonathan Taylor, so I'll just stick to thinking about that when I start bitching about drafting CEH. :banghead:

Demonpenz 11-15-2021 11:49 AM

CEH is a JAG but may get better hopefully

jd1020 11-15-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 15956944)
CEH is a JAG but may get better hopefully

Just start using him in the passing game like they have been using the RB in the passing game in recent weeks. Look what a bum like Darrel Williams just accomplished in the passing game. I mean... thats why we ****ing drafted him over the other RBs in the draft. Not because he was better than they are at running the ball, but because he seemingly fit this offense like a glove. We've been using him like an OJ Simpson glove, though.

ThaVirus 11-15-2021 12:06 PM

Mahomes has done a great job of selling the downfield pass then coming back to the RB down low. He’s dropping back, looking downfield, letting those LBs get some depth, then he’s firing it out to Darrel who’s got 10-12 yards of open field in front of him.

I’d like to see us do the same thing with Clyde. He’s not a guy who can create a ton on his own, but if we can get him in the open field with a head full of steam, maybe he can make some magic.

TEX 11-15-2021 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 15956944)
CEH is a JAG but may get better hopefully

And / or we will learn how to use him more effectively.

The Franchise 11-15-2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15956997)
Mahomes has done a great job of selling the downfield pass then coming back to the RB down low. He’s dropping back, looking downfield, letting those LBs get some depth, then he’s firing it out to Darrel who’s got 10-12 yards of open field in front of him.

I’d like to see us do the same thing with Clyde. He’s not a guy who can create a ton on his own, but if we can get him in the open field with a head full of steam, maybe he can make some magic.

And hopefully more screens.

staylor26 11-15-2021 12:29 PM

The way this season has played out, I kind of expect CEH to come back strong and silence some of the doubters.

ThaVirus 11-15-2021 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15957055)
And hopefully more screens.


Aye, hopefully that helps the Ts as well. A half second’s hesitation from them thinking they might be vacating an area where a screen in developing could be the difference between a TD and a turnover.

Pitt Gorilla 11-15-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15957057)
The way this season has played out, I kind of expect CEH to come back strong and silence some of the doubters.

Assuming he's healthy, he's going to play well. Darrel, though, has earned the right to continue as the starter, IMO.

jd1020 11-15-2021 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15957104)
Darrel, though, has earned the right to continue as the starter, IMO.

You must be ****ing joking. He's what T-40th in YPA? Ya... lets continue more of that please.

The Franchise 11-15-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15957063)
Aye, hopefully that helps the Ts as well. A half second’s hesitation from them thinking they might be vacating an area where a screen in developing could be the difference between a TD and a turnover.

It’s also going to help with the two deep safety issue. Screens and runs are going to cause them to creep up.

Dunerdr 11-15-2021 01:12 PM

Honestly CEH could look a shitload better if hed try to juke and avoid contact instead of lowering his shoulder all the time.

duncan_idaho 11-15-2021 01:18 PM

Williams ended up in a LOT of 1x1 situations last night.

This is exactly what they drafted CEH for... his quickness and cutting ability make him tough for closing-out LB and S to defend.

As well as Williams played last night, I think CEH gets a little more out of those 1x1, open-field situations. Though I don't know that he is someone you throw a jump ball to in the end zone.

A healthy CEH that makes LB routinely miss 1x1 in the short and intermediate ranges makes this offense even tougher to defend.

Dunerdr 11-15-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15957176)
Williams ended up in a LOT of 1x1 situations last night.

This is exactly what they drafted CEH for... his quickness and cutting ability make him tough for closing-out LB and S to defend.

As well as Williams played last night, I think CEH gets a little more out of those 1x1, open-field situations. Though I don't know that he is someone you throw a jump ball to in the end zone.

A healthy CEH that makes LB routinely miss 1x1 in the short and intermediate ranges makes this offense even tougher to defend.

This is basically everything you need to know. He may be a JAG but hes a JAG upgrade from our current JAG's.

duncan_idaho 11-15-2021 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15957223)
This is basically everything you need to know. He may be a JAG but hes a JAG upgrade from our current JAG's.

I'm not even sold that he's just a guy. I think he's a little better than average.

They've used him like he's a run-first guy, though. Drafting him with the idea of utilizing him in the passing game like KC used Williams last night makes sense.

Drafting him with the idea of him being primarily a ballcarrier? If that's what you're looking for, why draft Edwards-Helaire and not Taylor?


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