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I can't grasp it because it's an absolutely reeruned argument.

The Chiefs haven't taken a risk on a QB. Agreed. They also haven't taken a risk on a Nose Tackle. Guess what? They did. And now we're bitching about it. And it's not because we passed up taking a risk on a QB. There was no QB we should have taken given what it would have taken to get one.

Talking can is pissed about the Poe pick and he's trying to bait people into where he is because he's pissed about the QB decision and he knows that bitching about Cassel is a convenient way to throw the bait. And then he's acting like people who support the pick are somehow also supportive of the QB decision. They're two completely separate arguments. I'm okay with the Nose Tackle pick and pissed at the way they've handled the QB situation the last 4 years.

To move up and take a risk on Tannehill would have cost the Chiefs, at worst, Poe and Allen.

I would gladly have taken that risk.

chiefzilla1501

04-27-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8576305)

pointing out that poe did nothing in college and is a workout warrior is simply pointing out a fact

but you can't deal with that fact...hence you whine and cry about various strawmen

and if you can't understand my simple explanation about the hypocrisy of 'it's too risky!!' fanbois claiming to love a risky pick like poe at #11, then you're just dense..

drafting a QB is risky, can't do it ever
drafting a player who did literally nothing in college at #11 is not risky...it's bold and smart

this what you sunshine pumpers believe

How have I not dealt with the fact? I said he's a boom/bust prospect. I've acknowledged the guy wasn't good in college. But you keep asking how a guy does that poorly in a bad conference, and I've answered with a credible explanation. A bazillion times.

And I've also said a million times, as has everybody else, that it was either we took a swing at a boom/bust guy at an ultra-critical position, or accept the alternative of taking a safe pick at Guard.

You're so pissed that the Chiefs don't take a risk on a QB, and yet you're the loudest on this board about how the Chiefs threw the pick away because they took a risk on an upside Nose Tackle. Which is it?

Coogs

04-27-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8576303)

We need all the stuff we drafted, but damn it's boring as shit to watch.

This. 3 pretty good picks really. But just not flashy at all. But if they all do thier jobs, we already have the flash on our team... especcially if Stanzi pans out.

Boring this year. But at least next year we shouldn't have to see mock draft after mock draft trying to project a T to us in the 1st round.

Bewbies

04-27-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8576385)

Tackles are overrated. We will have G's that were the focal point of their college offense mocked to us.

Bewbies

04-27-2012 09:42 PM

If Poe works out Pioli looks pretty smart. And then you see Cassel snap the ball and realize you thought wrong.

milkman

04-27-2012 09:43 PM

And, btw, TC's argument wasn't about QB vs. Poe.

It was that people that like the Poe can shut the **** up now about taking a risk on QB because Poe is a huge risk pick.

kcxiv

04-27-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8576385)

We need Cassel to go down early then. I dont want to see another man hurt, but shit, what other choice we got as fans. We know Cassel cant lead a team to win in the play offs.

Were just ****ed because our GM thinks cassel is half decent. :(

Bewbies

04-27-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8576398)

And, btw, TC's argument wasn't about QB vs. Poe.

It was that people that like the Poe can shut the **** up now about taking a risk on QB because Poe is a huge risk pick.

:thumb:

Poe and Tannehill are pretty much the same thing on the most important position on either side of the ball. I would have preferred the risk at QB, but I don't get paid $5,000,000/yr to make that call.

keg in kc

04-27-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8576385)

Stanzi "panning out" means he's good enough to be a backup for a few years, instead of being released after 2013. We still need a starter.

Frosty

04-27-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8576379)

To move up and take a risk on Tannehill would have cost the Chiefs, at worst, Poe and Allen.

I would gladly have taken that risk.

And there are still people like Ta'amu and Chapman on the board for a NT and Matt Reynolds, Molk and Jones for o-line depth.

Bewbies

04-27-2012 09:48 PM

If Poe turned into Wilfork and Stanzi turned into Tom Brady we'd be set. That's playing the odds. LMAO

morphius

04-27-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8576398)

And, btw, TC's argument wasn't about QB vs. Poe.

It was that people that like the Poe can shut the **** up now about taking a risk on QB because Poe is a huge risk pick.

The argument is flawed, a failed first round QB will set a team back further than a miss at any other position.

Bewbies

04-27-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 8576414)

The argument is flawed, a failed first round QB will set a team back further than a miss at any other position.

So is the idea that KC can be "set back" from where they are.

chiefzilla1501

04-27-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8576398)

And, btw, TC's argument wasn't about QB vs. Poe.

It was that people that like the Poe can shut the **** up now about taking a risk on QB because Poe is a huge risk pick.

TC absolutely hates the Poe pick and it's because of his lack of performance on the college field. He hasn't hid that at all. He's been the most critical of the pick all day. Even saying the Chiefs made the pick purely to fill a need. Never suggesting that maybe they took a risk because they wanted to take a chance on a guy who could fill an important position, instead of laying up on a Guard. There is no way you can suggest that he's just being sarcastic.

And that's absolutely hypocritical if he's going to rail the Chiefs for taking a risk on a nose tackle, when he's at the same time promoting that the Chiefs need to take a risk on a QB. It's a convenient way to bait people into hating the Poe pick.

Sannyasi

04-27-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8576398)

And, btw, TC's argument wasn't about QB vs. Poe.

It was that people that like the Poe can shut the **** up now about taking a risk on QB because Poe is a huge risk pick.

Minus a few trolls, everyone on this board wants us to draft a QB. This isn't 2009.

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