Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5515273)

Yes, let's move Albert. Let's move the one good thing we had last year on the offensive line into a position we don't know how well he'll play or adjust to.

While we are at it, let's move Tony Gonzalez to RT. He can block well and it's easier to get TEs - especially with how fast they ran yesterday.

I wish someone would go Chris Brown on Pioli Zombie already.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5515292)

Ok, let's take a slightly different approach. For the sake of discussion, let's say that both Stafford and Sanchez are drafted before the Chiefs pick, and the Chiefs decided to keep the pick, either because they really wanted it or because they couldn't trade out. What would be your top 3 preferred players at that point?

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5515257)

They can't exactly take them #1 when they aren't picking there. As I said, different teams take different approaches. The Patriots build from the defensive line first, so you see Wilfork, Seymour and Warren going in the first. The Cowboys trade their first round picks a lot but, when they keep the picks, they tend to focus on defense. With Manning to build around and the concept being "Get ahead and then pressure the opponent with speed", the Colts focus more on the offensive side of the ball and grab their defenders a bit later on.

It's really just a matter of team approach. The "top 15" part of the argument is a loaded question, because any team consistently drafting in the "top 15" is a team that you don't want to follow anyway, usually because they draft poorly along with everything else. Thus, the "top 15" argument really says "do teams that suck draft OL and then move them around?".

Or, to put it another way..... Irregardless of the actual player picked, when Millen was still running the show in Detroit, did you have more faith in Millen drafting in the top 10 or in NE, Pitt, Bal and Ind drafting at the bottom of the round?

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5515321)

Quick, what's 1 common theme between the teams you listed there, Dallas, NE Pitt and Baltimore?

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5515181)

For shits and giggles, I went and looked at the Cowboys draft history. The last time the Cowboys drafted OL in the 1st round PERIOD was 1980 and 81, with the 26th and 27th picks respectively.

The 91 and 92 Patriots selected a Tackle at 11th and 13th. However in 91 the Patriots had two 1st round picks. And the '92 pick wasn't even on the roster in 95. And the '91 pick wasn't on the roster in 96. Neither helped the Patriots reach the Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5515292)

Ok, let's take a slightly different approach. For the sake of discussion, let's say that both Stafford and Sanchez are drafted before the Chiefs pick, and the Chiefs decided to keep the pick, either because they really wanted it or because they couldn't trade out. What would be your top 3 preferred players at that point?

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5515317)

IF it were to somehow play out like that, I'd take Jenkins, Everett Brown, or Raji.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5515292)

Ok, let's take a slightly different approach. For the sake of discussion, let's say that both Stafford and Sanchez are drafted before the Chiefs pick, and the Chiefs decided to keep the pick, either because they really wanted it or because they couldn't trade out. What would be your top 3 preferred players at that point?

Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5515337)

There's absolutely no way you take Raji if you're the Chiefs. For a myriad of reasons, but most being that you already spent that pick last year on Dorsey. That's the nearly the same argument against drafting an OT in this position.

I read this morning as well that Haynesworth is not being offered what he wants, I guess something like $9M per, when his thoughts are more in the neighborhood of $12-13...sounds a lot like top 5 money...I know there are some questions, particularly Dorsey-related ones, but ESPECIALLY if we go to the 3-4, how do you not call him if you're considering Raji?

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5515292)

Ok, let's take a slightly different approach. For the sake of discussion, let's say that both Stafford and Sanchez are drafted before the Chiefs pick, and the Chiefs decided to keep the pick, either because they really wanted it or because they couldn't trade out. What would be your top 3 preferred players at that point?

Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5515337)

There's absolutely no way you take Raji if you're the Chiefs. For a myriad of reasons, but most being that you already spent that pick last year on Dorsey. That's the nearly the same argument against drafting an OT in this position.

I read this morning as well that Haynesworth is not being offered what he wants, I guess something like $9M per, when his thoughts are more in the neighborhood of $12-13...sounds a lot like top 5 money...I know there are some questions, particularly Dorsey-related ones, but ESPECIALLY if we go to the 3-4, how do you not call him if you're considering Raji?

Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5515337)

There's absolutely no way you take Raji if you're the Chiefs. For a myriad of reasons, but most being that you already spent that pick last year on Dorsey. That's the nearly the same argument against drafting an OT in this position.

I read this morning as well that Haynesworth is not being offered what he wants, I guess something like $9M per, when his thoughts are more in the neighborhood of $12-13...sounds a lot like top 5 money...I know there are some questions, particularly Dorsey-related ones, but ESPECIALLY if we go to the 3-4, how do you not call him if you're considering Raji?

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5515354)

If his asking price is under 30 mill guaranteed, I call him.

However, I think due to Haynesworth character concerns, and injury history, that he's not nearly as motivated once he gets his money.

I'm not taking a RT 3rd overall. No how, no way. The Chiefs could draft Wood, sign a Jason Brown and keep Herb Taylor at RT and have a pretty good line.

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5515369)

It's a moot point anyway. The scenario of both QB's going 1,2 is setting at about 1% right now.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5515362)

Because if the team does switch to the 3-4, you don't have a DT beside Tank, and the Dorsey selection might be effectively burned anyway.

Why? Youth, and if you're taking him #3, you better think he has all the talent in the world.

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5515366)

If they switch to a 3-4, Raji is the NT. DL switch out much more often than OL as well.

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5515369)

It's a moot point anyway. The scenario of both QB's going 1,2 is setting at about 1% right now.