OTW hate to tell you but this is a free country and I can comment if I want to .



So far Hamas doesn't know what he is doing


why would the chiefs select sanchez when there are so many holes on this team especially when we just traded for Cassel. It's his arrogant statement about the pick shows how ignorant he is with what is going on this mock draft.


then for tampa bay wells is he not paying attention that they just signed ward to be the feature back. That is where I disagree.

He is making this mock laughable and OTW I'm entitled to my own opinion.

With two picks in the second round it gives the Browns a certain amount of flexibility. This guy can do it all including sell popcorn. With the 36th pick overall the Cleveland Browns select Connor Barwin, DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati

I'm beginning to see a disturbing trend developing that drafting right behind OTW is NOT going to be beneficial to my draft board.:doh!:

Where did he say anything to you about not being able to comment in this mock?

And since we're on the subject of being entitled to our own opinions....I can say one thing.

At least with you not in it......I don't have to hear that every player is a "steal".

guess we are a little jellous about last year and my picks it's cool bring the hatred without me and limiting it to the chosen 16 you aren't getting a real mock draft and you get someone really uninformed making picks (Hamas)


but what do I know I must not be knowledgeable enough to be in this mock

What the ****?

Where have I said a goddamn word to you in this thread?

I've been nothing but respectful to you, gave you an explanation you didn't deserve about not being included, and you're on MY ass?

You're entitled to your opinion, but leave me the **** out of it, unless I actually respond to you.

The guys that are involved in this mock have the right to their opinions as well. This isn't a one-way street.

And FWIW, if you'd ****ing pay attention, you'd see that Hamas picked Wells a FULL DAY before Ward was signed in Tampa. You expect him to be ****ing psychic? You have a lot of balls calling people out when you picked Brian ****ing Brohm at 15 last year.

Personally, I'm sick of your whining, and I've been nice long enough.

I'm jealous? You're the ONLY person that got left out....who made a big deal about not being in it. Then you proceeded to shit on OTW58 for leaving people out. Would I have drafted different than Hamas if I was drafting for the Chiefs? Yes. Am I going to constantly bring it up everytime he drafts? No. Why? Because he's the GM at this point in time and he can draft whomever he feels like. Coming in here and bitching about it like a 6 year old is stupid. If you don't like how he's drafting.....fine....but get over it and move on.

Yep....Brian Brohm in the 1st round was such a great pick. Chris Johnson was a good pick....it's just too bad that you drafted him to return kicks and punts.....

Not to call you out or anything......but he drafted him after Ward was signed. LMAO

FWIW, my reasoning behind the Wells selection:

Rock and a hard place. I'm not a big fan of taking running backs with really high selections. The Bucs just signed Derrick Ward, so they don't have a gaping hole at running back any more. A tandem of Ward and Graham could be serviceable, as you can't count on a broken down Cadillac for anything.

The Bucs have glaring needs at QB, DT, OLB, and WR

Obviously Tampa needs a quarterback. They tried to make a deal for Cutler, but that fell through. Josh Freeman is a great specimen in shorts and a T-shirt, but I've seen him play in the Big XII, and I'm not exactly thrilled.

Larry English is a possibility at end, but he reminds me too much of Tamba Hali.

Percy Harvin would be a good compliment to Antonio Bryant, but he comes from a spread offense, is on the small side, and has durability concerns.

Louis Delmas doesn't really fit the mold of a Cover 2 safety.

Peria Jerry is going to be a 25 year old rookie, he has major injury and intelligence issues, and he has the Sims/Peppers question given the presence of Greg Hardy on his college line.

Vontae Davis is another intriguing possibility, but he was less than impressive at the Combine, which is shocking given that was supposed to be the area where he would excel, given his lack of solid intangibles. There are a lot of Cover 2 corners that could be had later in the draft

In the end, I'm going to take the guy who I think is Larry Johnson without character problems.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, The Ohio State University

The whole tenor of this mock is being diminished by the constant douchbaggery.

You can draft whomever you want man......I'm not giving you shit.

I looked at the article date, not the actual signing date. Whoops.

He actually signed Monday night, and Hamas made his pick on Tuesday morning.

Hell, I missed it, I could easily see where someone would miss that. I know I'm not scouring the FA market before I make a pick.

EDIT: And in looking at Hamas' post, he didn't miss it.

brian brohm for one hasn't played yet so how do you know he's not good enough.


you are also forgetting I drafted jerod Mayo as well. When I picked both you guys on here said they were bad picks. but I don't know as much as all of you that's fair.


OTW you said that the people that aren't on this mock are belly aching blah blah. which I took to mean we can't have an opinion. If that's not what you said I'm sorry. I told you last year you did an awesome job setting this up. I don't understand why after almost 5 yrs doing this I'm excluded and kept being told to reference post 82 . Sorry but that was a little disrespectful. I will comment on the picks if I don't agree the mad love on this board for sanchez I feel is unjustified. Mecca of all people should realize this but for some reason he isn't cluing into these facts.


If sanchez is so great why couldn't he beat out john david booty?

Why was he inconsistent ?

Why do all of you think he's ready for the NFL?

Cassel is better guys you will see.

OTW i"M SORRY if I offended you I didn't mean to. So far Hamas explanation I"m in control so I shot previous brass in head and picked who I wanted to is a bad one. It would have been cool to see how far he slipped or if someone would take a chance on him early . Unfortunately we won't know.

It wasn't directed to you. I personally think that there was a pretty good reason for the Beanie pick. To me, he's the #1 pick in the draft, Tampa has assloads of cap space, and they are only paying Ward 4 million/year.

There was no value at tackle, end, or interior line there, and I'm not taking a CB in the first round when they are a Tampa 2 team through and through.

Again, if someone took me to 2003 and said "would you take Larry Johnson at #19 knowing the production he's had and removing the domestic problems?" I'd say hell yes.

If had read the thread, you'd know the answer to this question.

Ok hamas I agree with wells then if you want an alla earth wind and fire like giants.


but sanchez for the chiefs pick? Draft who you want to that's your right but you now have 3 cappable qbs and same old d why?