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DaneMcCloud 12-21-2009 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 6369133)
I'm more considered about your ****ing Dan Snyder bullshit... obviously you're avoiding that shit at all costs because its an un-****ing believable argument for firing Haley
You're missing the point, Dipshit.

Lamar Hunt kept two bozos in charge of his franchise for nearly 30 years.

While those two bozos produced some results their first decade, they were totally EPIC FAIL for the next two decades.

The Chiefs went 15 YEARS without a playoff appearance and another 16 years without a playoff win.

Like it or not, Daniel Snyder wouldn't have just sat by and watched an empty stadium for nearly two decades and not done anything about it.

DeezNutz 12-21-2009 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6369148)
Actually if I remember right, didnt Marty get some of the personnel control in the late 90's that produced the phrase "Bones, Thugs and Marty"?
1998.

And here we are now. It's a process.

DaneMcCloud 12-21-2009 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6369153)
Fair enough Dane... But Snyder? Come on.. Dude is KooKo for Cocoa Puffs....
Sure, because each and every year, he tries to win.

That's crazy talk 'round these parts!

:facepalm:

Reerun_KC 12-21-2009 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6369154)
You're missing the point, Dipshit.

Lamar Hunt kept two bozos in charge of his franchise for nearly 30 years.

While those two bozos produced some results their first decade, they were totally EPIC FAIL for the next two decades.

The Chiefs went 15 YEARS without a playoff appearance and another 16 years without a playoff win.

Like it or not, Daniel Snyder wouldn't have just sat by and watched an empty stadium for nearly two decades and not done anything about it.
Probably not.. Dude changes his personnel like I change underwear...

notorious 12-21-2009 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6369143)
Here's the deal, Dude:

The best and most consistent teams in the NFL are that way because of ownership.

Plain and simple.

Whether you're talking about the Mara's and the Giants, the Rooney's and the Steelers, Model & Cleveland/Baltimore, the Patriots and Bob Kraft, Jeff Lurie & the Eagles, DeBartolo and the 49ers, JKC and the 'Skins and so on.

Owners that demand championships get championships.

The Hunt family has never demanded a damn thing.
Absolutely 100% Correct.

They probably love their teams, but they stay out of the way when it comes down to brass taxes. They hire the right people and get out of their way.

Snyder and Jones (lately) have hurt their teams by becoming too involved and letting their clouded judgement hold them back.

KCTitus 12-21-2009 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6368953)
Washington will turn it around much more quickly than the Chiefs.

Bank it.
mmmkay...

DaneMcCloud 12-21-2009 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6369158)
Probably not.. Dude changes his personnel like I change underwear...
That's not necessarily true.

He had stuck with Vinny Cerato for a decade.

Now that he's gone, we'll see. But with a dedicated fan base and tons of dough, I don't expect them to make many mistakes with Allen at the helm.

Especially if they get Shanahan.

notorious 12-21-2009 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6369148)
Actually if I remember right, didnt Marty get some of the personnel control in the late 90's that produced the phrase "Bones, Thugs and Marty"?
Come on, Bam Morris and T. Vanover were quality citizens.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-21-2009 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6369144)
Three kings brought gifts to the newborn Jesus Curry as he slept in a manger...........
"I have no gift to bring, pa-rum-pa-pum-pum"
-Tebow.

Reerun_KC 12-21-2009 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6369157)
Sure, because each and every year, he tries to win.

That's crazy talk 'round these parts!

:facepalm:
Okay, trying to win and succeeding are two different things dont you think?

Al Davis tries to win each year... Snyder tries to win each year...

So do you just fire everyone and start over the minute something doest go the way you want it to? That is Al Davis's plan and AD jr isnt far behind the crazy old bastard....

Snyder might want to win, but his quick fuse and reputation will keep him from it for awhile... He would probably be best served as a Hands off owner...

KCTitus 12-21-2009 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6369148)
Actually if I remember right, didnt Marty get some of the personnel control in the late 90's that produced the phrase "Bones, Thugs and Marty"?
Yes, and after the abortion that was the 1998 season and Marty quit, two years later Snyder HIRED Marty and gave him personnel control.

It didnt work well.

But dont you worry, Snyder's got the Master Plan.

Reerun_KC 12-21-2009 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6369162)
That's not necessarily true.

He had stuck with Vinny Cerato for a decade.

Now that he's gone, we'll see. But with a dedicated fan base and tons of dough, I don't expect them to make many mistakes with Allen at the helm.

Especially if they get Shanahan.
Fair enough, I can see your point... But dude has to stop messing around with the team..

You cant be a fan first and owner second... You would make WAY too many snap emotional decessions...

DaneMcCloud 12-21-2009 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6369159)
Absolutely 100% Correct.

They probably love their teams, but they stay out of the way when it comes down to brass taxes. They hire the right people and get out of their way.

Snyder and Jones (lately) have hurt their teams by becoming too involved and letting their clouded judgement hold them back.
The Rooney's have always been intimately involved, just as have the Mara's and the others.

Here's an example of what I mean by that.

Mara: Hi Tom. What do you want to talk about?
Coughlin: As you know, Mr. Mara, our DC was hired by the Rams as HC.
Mara: Yes, I know.
TC: Well, I've decided to hire Clancy Pendergast.
Mara: Like **** you are! Find someone else. ANYONE else. And get the **** out of my office.
TC: Yes sir.

SPATCH 12-21-2009 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6369154)
You're missing the point, Dipshit.

Lamar Hunt kept two bozos in charge of his franchise for nearly 30 years.

While those two bozos produced some results their first decade, they were totally EPIC FAIL for the next two decades.

The Chiefs went 15 YEARS without a playoff appearance and another 16 years without a playoff win.

Like it or not, Daniel Snyder wouldn't have just sat by and watched an empty stadium for nearly two decades and not done anything about it.
The Dan Snyder approach to operating a football team has produced JACK SHIT.

You're delusional. This does more to justify keeping Haley than fire him.

Reerun_KC 12-21-2009 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6369172)
The Rooney's have always been intimately involved, just as have the Mara's and the others.

Here's an example of what I mean by that.

Mara: Hi Tom. What do you want to talk about?
Coughlin: As you know, Mr. Mara, our DC was hired by the Rams as HC.
Mara: Yes, I know.
TC: Well, I've decided to hire Clancy Pendergast.
Mara: Like **** you are! Find someone else. ANYONE else. And get the **** out of my office.
TC: Yes sir.
That funny....


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