:( I was wrong about Tank.

Tank was a 3rd rounder.

Turk was a second.

Ill let u know in another year or two.

Honestly, last years draft all rides on what Cassel and TyJack turn out to be.

My bad. I meant Turk in the 2nd.

I think the thing we saw from the prvious 2 draft and the '08 was the shift of emphasis.

Before '08, there was the belief that we still had a team capable of competing, so we were looking for immediate contributors, while in '08, the rebuild finally actually began in earnest, and Bill Kuharich was given a far bigger role.

But they weren't, not at all.

Page, Pollard, Hali and Bowe are all NFL starters. And he was drafting middle/back in those 2 drafts.

To get 4 bona-fide NFL starters in 2 drafts is, at worst, average. It's pretty acceptable when you're working at the back 1/2 of the draft, in fact. And Croyle is damn talented. While it hasn't worked out aces, that pick was a good one as well.

Tank Tyler in the 3rd is a decent pick, he's a solid under-tackle in a 4-3 and came with the 82nd pick, that's pretty decent.

And Herb Taylor is a guy that should be starting but isn't because our HC is a moron.

Add in his 3rd draft and it's unmistakeable -- Herm Edwards put together 3 consecutive drafts ranging anywhere from solid to spectacular.

The man couldn't coach a championship team in NFL Europe, but give credit where it's due. He was a very good drafter.

I have. Herm was a pretty good drafter. Agree to disagree I guess.

This post is full of stupid.

I agree. 08 we had a great\good draft but other than that Herm sucked along with Carl.

You will get burned by this, but your statement is correct.

If Cassel makes mental strides in all areas of his game and Jackson becomes one of the best 3-4 ends that gets 5-7 sacks per year like Ty Warren and becomes an elite run defender, it looks a lot better than it does right now...you know, when both players are ranked in the bottom 10% at their respective positions in their first year in red n gold.

Well, thats a completely normal reaction...

Herb Taylor isn't starting for the Chiefs because he plays for the Giants and their head coach is stupid as well.

Just like last season when we wanted a mid-first guy but were sitting at #3 overall....

Oh wait - we did nothing and drafted a horrible player really high and paid him a shit-load of money instead.

Sorry, but Pioli just isn't that good.

I love it. So Jackson after just on year is a horrible player yet Pollard after three medicore seasons and one solid year is good.

Overall you make a good point but frankly, no matter what anyone says or how it ended up, trading down and getting LJ worked out pretty well for us. Obviously we weren't going to take Polamalu anyway, so I can't knock the pick of a coaches kid who rushed for 2,000 yards his last year in college, fell to us at the 27th pick and ended up rushing for over 1700 yards and 2 pro bowls.

Then the next year when Carl thought he had it all figured out and we traded down and ended up with the giant turd that was Junior Siavii.:#

Tyler was a 3rd round pick, Turk was the 2nd. To be fair, Tyler was rated as a 2nd rounder by most though.