Tom Brady was picked up by the Pats in the 6th round, 199th pick overall - a compensatory pick. They didn't grab him because they were looking for a "QB of the Future" (they were satisfied with Drew Bledsoe as their starter) but more because they couldn't believe that he'd fallen that far in the draft. Brady was a damned good QB at Michigan. For a compensatory pick in the 6th, Brady was an absolute STEAL. Low (virtually NO) risk, high reward.

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They have shown NO ABILITY to develop/handle the QB position either.

3 yrds and a cloud of dust is NOT QB friendly

Yelling at your QB every day about how "not turning the ball over is the top priority" is not QB friendly

RRPP is NOT QB friendly

I wanted no part of Haley developing a QBoTF and that goes for Muir either. We must get a quality OC who can install a viable offensive system and develop a young QB with that system.

I'm a firm believer in that coaching can kill most young QB's. You flip-flop the team selection on many QB's and their futures can end up very different. Very few 'can't miss' quarterbacks.

NFL is all about being able to pass the ball now. Having said, the reason we lost to Indy in 2003 had nothing to do with QB play. From 2002-2005, we had the #1 or 2 offense in the league every year, and didn't do anything. That simply, is unprecedented. It's much harder to build a super offense like we did in that era, based around a fantastic line and a Kyle Orton-like QB than simply having Big Ben or Brady back there.

You really need to stop beating the Brady drum. The guy was a once in history type of pick. It won't be happening again, not with the way players are being scouted.

Just pay attention to the odds. Look at what's been posted in this thread.

Yes, please show me what other qbs have a 27 touchdown to 7 interception ratio. Regardless of his yards, Cassel got 27 passing tds. The run certainly helped him. How many attempts did Cassel have?

Even if it was a magical season, it means shit now. It was a false indicator of his ability.

Derek Anderson once threw for 29 TDs and 3800 yards. MAGICAL! He's back in the shitter these days.

Sunday's game was a blast, very fun to watch. I was really happy for Orton, Crennel and the rest of the Chiefs for that matter. It was fun, not only to watch the win, but to watch those guys enjoy themselves and fight for each other after a really tough week on them I'm sure. I have heard guys say, "we've got our guy" and "no way, draft a guy". This is a wait and see deal and nobody that really counts cares about anybody on here's opinion. This could be a fit. I was not a big Orton or Crennel guy, but have been impressed over the last week. I do believe that Orton could be much better than I or most guys on here have given him credit to be. He's really had no weapons. We'll see.

funny how some people leave out things that are kinda important when comparing two somewhat like situations...


anderson also threw 19 INTS that magical season.

One thing I'm sure of is that Cassel needs to restructure his contract and resign to being a quality back up or be traded. But Scott hasn't called me yet to ask me my opinion. I don't know what his deal is.

Did we ever stop to think that maybe the fact that they haven't drafted a 1st round QB is an indicator that they haven't properly evaluated the position and we shouldn't use their inability to evaluate as justification for not taking one.

Who gives a shit?

If Cassel had thrown 29/3800 people on here would still be lauding that season as magical.

not with 19 INTS. that should have told people what was going on...

Matt also had the top running game,a rb avg near 7ypc, and still only threw for close to 3000 yds.


out of those 27 Td I bet 12 were inside the 5 on short throws

30th in the ****ing league should have told people what was going on with Cassel.

wasn't the passing game ranked like 30 in the league?


And that with the best running game in the league and 8 in the box