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DaneMcCloud 02-20-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9419335)
Well, certainly not YOU, Dane.

JFC.

Mention even the mere possibility of Geno Smith and you go off like Adolf.

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You failed to answer my question.

What does John Dorsey think about this QB class?

Hammock Parties 02-20-2013 02:09 PM

We really don't know, because just about everything that comes out of a GM's mouth this time of year is probably a lie.

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9419343)
So, were you a tool when you were slurping Sanchez while every draftnik questioned him?

Go back and read my posts. I wasn't "slurping", first off. And once the Cassel trade was made, it was irrelevant.

Furthermore, I wasn't pushing Sanchez for 6 months before the draft.

This shit with Smith is about 1,000 times as annoying as the ****ing Ricky Stanzi shit, which quite frankly, I never thought possible.

BossChief 02-20-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9419320)
And AS they were coming out of college, teams and scouts missed on Brady, Montana, Kaepernick, so on and so forth.

It doesn't mean that those guys WEREN'T ready to lead a team to a championship game or the Super Bowl, it was that scouts and GM's weren't AWARE they were ready. They were misses.

And furthermore, if you're going to ask this question, maybe you should do it in a Private Message, you know, since only people that have "watched film" should respond.

LMAO

You guys are acting like ****ing tools.

We aren't the ones being tools here, Dane.

We were trying to have a discussion about an important part of drafting a quarterback that tmk hasn't been discussed yet and you came in the house all coked up and swinging your fists with your eyes closed.

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9419350)
We really don't know, because just about everything that comes out of a GM's mouth this time of year is probably a lie.

Bullshit.

You don't like his direct answer, so you refuse to believe it.

That's called DENIAL.

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9419360)
We aren't the ones being tools here, Dane.

We were trying to have a discussion about an important part of drafting a quarterback that tmk hasn't been discussed yet and you came in the house all coked up and swinging your fists with your eyes closed.

No, I answered your question.

Again, you didn't like the answer, so now I'm the "blind, bad guy".

And Ricky Stanzi should have been a second rounder.

LMAO

DJ's left nut 02-20-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9419326)
With all due respect, Kirwan's ****ing moron. When he ran the personnel department for the Jets, they were ****ing awful (The Kotite years and more).

The guy couldn't get a job in the NFL if he worked for free.

Is anyone not a moron?

I guess that's my question here. You seem unwilling to do any homework yourself, and that's fine. You also seem hell-bent on blasting anyone that has. Okay, that's less fine but whatever. You also seem content with calling just about anyone that's proffered an opinion nationally something of an idiot.

WTF are you even hanging around for then? Your entire purpose at this stage appears to be to just tell people to shut up and wait for what happens. Well ****, Dane - it's a discussion board. What the hell's the point in having a discussion board if all we're going to do is sit and wait for the results to trickle in?

We're not curing cancer here, we're talking football. Contribute or leave.

Sitting back and blasting folks that are actually throwing ideas out there, good and bad, is just tiresome. I'

BossChief 02-20-2013 02:16 PM

Go back and read Dorsey's comments again. He doesn't say that he orvReidcthink that Geno or other qbs aren't worthy of the top pick...he dances around while saying very little of real substance....he basically says "some guys don't think there is even a first round quarterback in this class. Mine and Andy's job is to see if that's true and we are gonna do everything we can to do exactly that."

Shit, he clearly said that he and Andy will make their own lists about the position and that they would attend every workout and interview they can.

It's not like Dorsey was scouting Geno for the Packers during the last year, he even said the most important part of the process had yet to come.

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9419367)
Is anyone not a moron?

I guess that's my question here. You seem unwilling to do any homework yourself, and that's fine. You also seem hell-bent on blasting anyone that has. Okay, that's less fine but whatever. You also seem content with calling just about anyone that's proffered an opinion nationally something of an idiot.

No, what's truly ridiculous is that when the so-called "National Media" has a negative opinion of the Chiefs, the forum says that they suck, King sucks, Prisco sucks, Florio sucks, Whitlock sucks, etc.

Yet, when the national media agrees with the opinion of Chiefsplanet, suddenly, those pundits are okay.

It's laughable.

And no, I'm not going to sit around and waste my time watching shitty YouTube clips of a QB that may or may not be selected by the Chiefs in late April.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9419367)
WTF are you even hanging around for then? Your entire purpose at this stage appears to be to just tell people to shut up and wait for what happens. Well ****, Dane - it's a discussion board. What the hell's the point in having a discussion board if all we're going to do is sit and wait for the results to trickle in?

Ha! So, since my opinion is to be cautious and point out the ridiculous flaws in people's thinking, I'm not welcome?

Maybe I should just stay up all night and watch YouTube clips, just so I can join your club. That sounds like fun.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9419367)
We're not curing cancer here, we're talking football. Contribute or leave.

Contribute or leave? What the ****? You're the same ****ing guy that lobbied for Dana Holgersen and told me that Javon Belcher was an above average ILB, yet I should leave?

Yeah, no.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9419367)
Sitting back and blasting folks that are actually throwing ideas out there, good and bad, is just tiresome. I'

You know what's truly tiresome? Reading the same bullshit from the same exact people in every thread for months on end.

THAT'S tiresome.

BossChief 02-20-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9419365)
No, I answered your question.

Again, you didn't like the answer, so now I'm the "blind, bad guy".

And Ricky Stanzi should have been a second rounder.

LMAO

Your opinion on anything to do with a QB that you have only seen the two worst games of the career of is one of two things:

Irrelevant
Ignorant.

If you want to be taken seriously in a conversation about Geno, take some time and watch some of the "every throw in each game" on YouTube because the two games you saw showed NONE OF HIS UPSIDE, whatsoever.

There are whole games on YouTube, Dane...not just "highlight clips"

milkman 02-20-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9419362)
Bullshit.

You don't like his direct answer, so you refuse to believe it.

That's called DENIAL.

Dorsey didn't give his opinion.
He tod us what he's heard.

He and his staff are just starting the evaluation process on thes prospectsn having just finished evaluating the Chiefs roster.

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9419376)
Go back and read Dorsey's comments again. He doesn't say that he orvReidcthink that Geno or other qbs aren't worthy of the top pick...

No.

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/16...chiefs-if.html

“There is no quarterback where personnel guys can definitely say, ‘He’s a first-round pick,’ ” Dorsey said. “There were so many inconsistencies in the collective group. There was not one guy that stood up and said, ‘I’m the guy in the position this year.’ There really wasn’t one clear-cut guy.

“There are too many technical flaws, scheme flaws. There are so many different variables that there are a lot of people all over the place on naming the top four or five guys and who those guys would be.”


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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9419376)
he dances around while saying very little of real substance....he basically says "some guys don't think there is even a first round quarterback in this class. Mine and Andy's job is to see if that's true and we are gonna do everything we can to do exactly that."

No.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9419376)
It's not like Dorsey was scouting Geno for the Packers during the last year, he even said the most important part of the process had yet to come.

Complete speculation.

If you don't think that the Chiefs have watched game film of every QB available in the NFL draft, you're mistaken.

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9419384)
Dorsey didn't give his opinion.
He tod us what he's heard.

He and his staff are just starting the evaluation process on thes prospectsn having just finished evaluating the Chiefs roster.

You didn't read the article, either?

“There is no quarterback where personnel guys can definitely say, ‘He’s a first-round pick,’ ” Dorsey said. “There were so many inconsistencies in the collective group. There was not one guy that stood up and said, ‘I’m the guy in the position this year.’ There really wasn’t one clear-cut guy.

“There are too many technical flaws, scheme flaws. There are so many different variables that there are a lot of people all over the place on naming the top four or five guys and who those guys would be.”

BossChief 02-20-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9419384)
Dorsey didn't give his opinion.
He tod us what he's heard.

He and his staff are just starting the evaluation process on thes prospectsn having just finished evaluating the Chiefs roster.

Exactly.

People read things like "there are personnel people that say there isn't a first round quarterback in this class" and immediately take that as "I, John Dorsey don't think there is a QB worth a first round pick for us"

It's not at all what he said.

Shit, he even said that he and Reid would be doing their own homework and setting their own QB board by doing as much homework as possible.

He also said that what happens between now and the draft is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.

Hammock Parties 02-20-2013 02:28 PM

"can definitely say" is not the same as "there is not one"

It's a gray area, and gray area statements are the norm this time of year.

Chill the **** out, hoss.


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