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RealSNR 02-24-2013 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9430713)
Okay guys, Reid trades a 3rd for Foles and we can't trade out of 1.

Who's the pick?

Woah, look at the time. Is it 2009 already?

Tribal Warfare 02-24-2013 02:50 AM

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keg in kc 02-24-2013 02:58 AM

Mort's smart enough to say (and I think emphasize) "as of right now". He knows that can (and probably will) change.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-24-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9430713)
Okay guys, Reid trades a 3rd for Foles and we can't trade out of 1.

Who's the pick?

Geno and Foles can braid hair on the bench with Stanzi.

Ace Gunner 02-24-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9430835)
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wha!?! chris mortenson is a foo 11!!!/ cp gm's

farmerchief 02-24-2013 08:28 AM

I'm okay with drafting the BPA, but who can actually indentify, who that may end of being?(in the long run). I have kind of come to the realization, we probably won't draft a QB with the first pick, but I could see us doing it in the second or third. I'm willing to field a team that probably won't win the division, but if good players are added this year, and next year, then I expect us to be right in the middle of the hunt for the division crown the following year. We need a whole lot of quality players, hopefully this new regime can indentify those players!

Pasta Little Brioni 02-24-2013 08:35 AM

The only non-QB's mocked to KC may not even be the best players at their respective positions, but they are labeled as safe and can't miss. It's pathetic.

chiefscafan 02-24-2013 09:00 AM

Truthfully from what I saw yesterday at the combine and the senior bowl I think Eric fisher is better than jokel.


If that scenario happened and I wasn't able to trade down I probably resign bowe and Albert . I either take fisher or take Alabama cb

chiefscafan 02-24-2013 09:02 AM

In our fantasy draft of drafting for the chiefs

I took Crabtree yep crab and bowe damn!

Pasta Little Brioni 02-24-2013 09:02 AM

Those would be horrible wastes of resources at 1-1 as well chiefsca

CoMoChief 02-24-2013 09:04 AM

I fully expect this to happen. I believe we will sign/trade for Nick Foles and draft either Barkley, Bray, or Wilson in the 2nd and Cassel will be asked to take a major pay cut or he will be released. Depending on what happens w/ Cassel, Quinn or Stanzi will either be cut or will be given 1-yr deals (or however long Stanzi has left on his deal).

Albert will move to guard if we draft Joeckel. That's going to piss off a lot of the armchair GM's here at Chiefsplanet, but that's what will happen. Either that or Joeckel will play guard which would piss off even more CP armchair GM's. 1 of the 2 will happen if Albert is resigned and Joeckel is drafted at 1-1.

1. OT Joeckel
2. QB Barkley/Bray/Wilson
3. QB Nick Foles trade
3. CB David Amerson

Rounds 4-7 I'd go in this order:
4. RB Lattimore or OLB Jones (if he's drops to this spot)
5. ILB Klein
6. CB Mathieu

BUT....if this spinal thing is going to have Jones drop really far and even into the 2nd day I think you absolutely take that gamble in the 4th rd instead of Lattimore.

And I also think we go for another QB next season as well.

Messier 02-24-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 9431077)
Truthfully from what I saw yesterday at the combine and the senior bowl I think Eric fisher is better than jokel.


If that scenario happened and I wasn't able to trade down I probably resign bowe and Albert . I either take fisher or take Alabama cb

Yeah, it seems like a toss up to me. I'd be on board with Millner, a top player at a need area. I know CBs don't go 1.1, but neither do Gs and Warmack has been getting buzz too.

patteeu 02-24-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9430472)
Prove it to me. How many LTs have been drafted in the last 10 years and successfully moved to OG?

I don't believe you're open to having it proved to you, but anyone who watches football should know that the move from tackle to guard isn't that uncommon. Going the other way is more so. Robert Gallery and Leonard Davis are the two examples that come immediately to my mind because they were both drafted in the top 5 to be LT but ended up finding their most success at G. Wade Smith is another example. Shawn Andrews went from college tackle to NFL guard and then, at the end of his career, out to NFL LT.

I looked at the first and third rounds of drafts from 2003 to 2007 (your 10 year window minus the most recent 5 years because those careers haven't had time to develop yet). There were 4 guys drafted as tackles in the first round during that stretch who ended up playing guard (Gallery, Andrews, Vernon Carey, and Chris Williams). All of them except for Andrews started out their NFL careers as tackles and Andrews finished his as one. There were 7 guys drafted in the third round as tackles who ended up playing guard at least to some extent. One of those guys was Eric Winston so his guard play was minimal. The others, including Wade Smith, spent more significant time at guard.

patteeu 02-24-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9430552)
I would rather keep Albert at LT so we can take a QB and CB/S/WR/LB with our first 2 picks. In your scenario we come out with two positions filled with potential. Mine it's 3. If you argue that in scenario 1 you move Albert to guard thus making it 3 positions you have helped, it still doesn't measure up. You can find a guard later in drafts. You don't need your first overall pick be an attempt to improve a guard spot.

Any way you slice it letting Albert go or moved to guard and taking a LT at 1.1 is not going to be full value. That's the irony of all this talk about Joeckel being the value pick. Picking a guy to fill a position you have a guy to fill isn't value. Adding skill at the guard position with an Albert move doesn't equal the value of what we can get in the 2nd round with CB ect.

If they were to let Albert go and draft those two (1. Joeckel, 2. Tyler Wilson), they'd still have the resources to sign a FA because they didn't use them to resign Albert. So they could potentially fill that CB/S/WR/LB position from FA.

patteeu 02-24-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9430713)
Okay guys, Reid trades a 3rd for Foles and we can't trade out of 1.

Who's the pick?

Trade down with someone from ChiefsPlanet who's desperate for Geno Smith.


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