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DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9498044)
Yeah, wtf has Brad been doing this week?

Just hanging out?
Who is his agent? He may need to look into getting a different guy.

Soon.

ToxSocks 03-14-2013 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498051)
I'd jump at the trade of 1st and 2nd this year and a 2nd next year.
At this point, it'd be wise to jump at nearly any trade (within reason, obviously).

The Chiefs are in such a good spot because they have so much flexability.

O.city 03-14-2013 01:40 PM
Frankly, I dont give a damn about having a "thumper" there. In todays game I'll take a guy who might be a little light in the pants that can cover.

I don't think Maualuga is that.

lcarus 03-14-2013 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498059)
I think he's going to much better than that, at least what I've seen of him the past two years.

The guy isn't Cassel. He's not Tom Brady at this point, either but he's not a stumbling, bumbling turnover machine. In KC, he's already got better weapons that he had at any time in San Francisco and while he's not going to be Peyton Manning out there, changing plays every down and directing the office, I think he's more than a game manager.

But, that's all speculation. Maybe he starts game one, get his ass kicked and never recovers. But either way, he's not Matt Cassel.
Anyone who thinks he's Matt Cassel 2.0 (and is not just jokin around) is jaded as hell. Which is understandable I guess...

Sorter 03-14-2013 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9498058)
He lacks coverage and leadership skills, but is a solid tackler.

We have the coverage and leadership guy covered, DJ. Belcher wasn't good in coverage or leadership, but he was good against the run.

Maualuga is an immediate belcher replacement with WAY more upside than Belcher ever had.

I'll be a VERY happy kid if we sign Maualuga, and still very happy if we get Dansby. I like them both.
You need two ILBs who can cover nowadays.

Would prefer Dansby and the selection of Ogletree(unrealistic, I know)/Bostic.

The Franchise 03-14-2013 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498059)
I think he's going to much better than that, at least what I've seen of him the past two years.

The guy isn't Cassel. He's not Tom Brady at this point, either but he's not a stumbling, bumbling turnover machine. In KC, he's already got better weapons that he had at any time in San Francisco and while he's not going to be Peyton Manning out there, changing plays every down and directing the office, I think he's more than a game manager.

But, that's all speculation. Maybe he starts game one, get his ass kicked and never recovers. But either way, he's not Matt Cassel.
My two issues (not factoring in what we gave up for him).

1. The dude can't stay healthy.
2. He doesn't turn the ball over because he ****ing takes sacks.

Exoter175 03-14-2013 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498051)
I'd jump at the trade of 1st and 2nd this year and a 2nd next year.
The Bills know this class sucks and the value of 1.1 is 1/5th of what it was last year due to the talent difference. They have the ball in their court for trade offers, not us.

However, I can't confirm it, but I've got a good source saying they've already been in contact about a possible trade, so who knows. They showed their hand last night, but we cannot leverage it at all.

Frankie 03-14-2013 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9498042)
Don't get greedy with Buffalo. I'd be so desperate to get out of 1.1 that I'd take 1.8 and next year's 1 and be done with it. I'm fine with leaving a second or fourth round pick on the table just to grease the wheels and get the ****ing deal done.
This all day. I LOL at people who think we can get draft chart compensation for a trade down.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9498042)
Don't get greedy with Buffalo. I'd be so desperate to get out of 1.1 that I'd take 1.8 and next year's 1 and be done with it. I'm fine with leaving a second or fourth round pick on the table just to grease the wheels and get the ****ing deal done.
Exactly.

This is what I was hoping for and saying in 2009: Get anything you can just to get the **** out.

Even if they moved to #8, they can still move down from there and accumulate more picks. More picks equals more options.

Sorter 03-14-2013 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498065)
Who is his agent? He may need to look into getting a different guy.

Soon.
Yup.

The Franchise 03-14-2013 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9498062)
No way, dude. You're haggling over a second this year. If you don't believe in the QBs this year, then **** that second. The most valuable thing this team can get right now is another first round pick in next year's draft, because they aren't going to be in position to draft a good QB prospect unless they can give a trade partner at least two first rounders.
If we're drafting a QB high next year it's because either Alex Smith or Chase Daniel sucks. If they're average.....we won't see a QB in here for 2-3 years.

DeezNutz 03-14-2013 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9498062)
No way, dude. You're haggling over a second this year. If you don't believe in the QBs this year, then **** that second. The most valuable thing this team can get right now is another first round pick in next year's draft, because they aren't going to be in position to draft a good QB prospect unless they can give a trade partner at least two first rounders.
Exactly right. Must get next year's first. Anything else is irrelevant.

ToxSocks 03-14-2013 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498059)
I think he's going to much better than that, at least what I've seen of him the past two years.

The guy isn't Cassel. He's not Tom Brady at this point, either but he's not a stumbling, bumbling turnover machine. In KC, he's already got better weapons that he had at any time in San Francisco and while he's not going to be Peyton Manning out there, changing plays every down and directing the office, I think he's more than a game manager.

But, that's all speculation. Maybe he starts game one, get his ass kicked and never recovers. But either way, he's not Matt Cassel.
How does he have better weapons? All he has here is Bowe and Charles. That's not exactly a lot better than Crabtree, Davis and Gore.

The Franchise 03-14-2013 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9498071)
The Bills know this class sucks and the value of 1.1 is 1/5th of what it was last year due to the talent difference. They have the ball in their court for trade offers, not us.

However, I can't confirm it, but I've got a good source saying they've already been in contact about a possible trade, so who knows. They showed their hand last night, but we cannot leverage it at all.
Dude....they have nothing in their court. They have Tavaris Jackson as their starting QB and a bunch of teams that are interested in Geno Smith. Yeah they could wait.....and then have nothing.

Sassy Squatch 03-14-2013 01:43 PM
Has there even been any Jones news at all?


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