I would disagree.

It may have not been printed on the banners but sick of losing is what fueled the fire. If you can't see that you're naive.

I think a 'middle ground' type of situation wouldve been getting a Matt Flynn or some other free agent, without giving up the #34 overall draft pick and whatever (presumably pretty high) second rounder we will have to give up next season. A middle ground wouldve been to sign Albert long term, and use our #1 on something that had a decent chance of really being a true impact position instead of probably losing ALbert next season. (more or less lateral move, by most metrics)
A middle ground wouldve been using the #34 pick on more weapons to develop...so that we acknowledge we probably are a team still development instead of trying to pretend we are a team that has a chance to make an impact NOW in the playoffs.

Thats just my opinion, and I know it wouldnt sell seats short term....but hey..

And I say all this knowing I am just some shlub joe schmoe hoping like hell that the 'win now' thing somehow works out.

If this is what they think, Hunt and co. greatly misunderstood the true motivation of SOC.

It wasn't about W and L. It was about the clueless buffoon running the show and the damage he was doing to the franchise.

I think it is all much simpler than that... we had no ****ing QB, we went and got the best available in a bad market. All this screaming about "not knowing the value of the position" is horse shit... you may not like the results, but they recognized the problem and addressed as best as they could, they believe. Geno ****ing smith isn't going to beat out Sanchez... think about that? They are talking here about him already being well behind and being used as a "change of pace" QB.

Look, perhaps AS is a stopgap? But if he gets us to a top 5 QB eventually, so be it. There was no top 5 or 10 QB available...they are hard to come by. Lets just be happy that AS hasn't extended yet.

We flew the banners because we wanted the jackholes leading the franchise gone. That's it.

I'm perfectly willing to sit through a 6-10 year with a rookie QB.

6-10 with a veteran QB who shows no improvement over what we had? Not so willing.

Which was.... LOSING. Nobody would have given a shit if we were winning playoff games, lets be honest.

Who cares if he's "locked up" if he has an impressive 2013 outing? The contract can be structured in favor of the Chiefs so that if his play declines, he could be cut rather easily.

Pioli's biggest problem was that he wouldn't cut the cord. I don't envision Reid, Dorsey or Hunt repeating that mistake.

So if cassle and pioli won a playoff game last year riding jc and the d to the ground banners would have been flying?

The probability of this is extremely low. I like trying to simplify things, but I think you are over simplifying. There was a trade off....Win more now or try a slower build approach...we went with the win now.

If we do not 'win now' then this plan failed.

Just saying 'we went with the best QB available' is a bit too simple of an outlook, for my taste.

Exactly. SOC acts like they were marching hand-in-hand in Birmingham singing "we shall overcome"... like they're was some moral authority attached to flying a banner complaining about a losing football team.

While I agree with you, I think that proves my point. An organization that is run like a complete circus was the only one that thought he was more than a 3rd rounder.

It doesn't mean we failed. There are multiple teams that built a terrific foundation behind the wrong QB, then ended up with the right one. Seattle is an example of a team that took multiple swings, failed multiple times and found one. San Fran is a team that seems to have found a franchise QB even though they had a veteran. Denver and Arizona are two teams who did it and plugged in a last-chance veteran.

Yeah, if the Chiefs settle for Alex Smith, I see them as long shots. I think it's insane to think the Chiefs couldn't spend a first round pick or take multiple swings at young players over the next 3 years who could ultimately replace him.

If Reid and Dorsey prove to be as flexible in their approach to the QB position as you're suggesting, then I agree. However, it seems that far too much "old school" dominates how organizations view "their guy" at QB, largely because how this position performs dictates the job security of the decision-makers.

Sure. But I see a disconnect here... people, not you per se, talk about taking the time to build the team the right way - then complain about taking Fisher, who was the consensus top player in the draft. There is a moving target with many of these conversations... the "right way" is usually just whatever that person wanted...

It was more than that.

Pioli was a bad person who treated people like shit.