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King_Chief_Fan 02-10-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 10424529)
Shit happens all the time and I can't recall any other college players ever laying their hands on fans. What if it was a student? Because you know there's always gonna be drunk students talking trash. It's part of the game and always has been. The difference is, Smart is a hothead and apparently an idiot.

Student on student I get

chiefzilla1501 02-10-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10424312)
We'll find out over the coming weeks at fat-man's family prolly starts paying the price for him wanting to be a bad-ass. Kids are cruel, and if there's an OSU fan in his kid's/grandkid's school, I'm sure they're going to be ribbed ruthlessly.

Kinda sucks for the family/kids close to fat-man...

I get that you're talking about younger kids.

But just for the record, you're opposed to grown men harassing strangers they've never met before? I wonder if Orr will re-examine his behavior when it's his own kids that get heckled.

KC_Connection 02-10-2014 11:54 AM

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/le...marts-mistake/

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But for the record, I think most rational people saw all this and sided with Smart. He made a mistake, but he wasn’t exactly wrong. That guy was eminently shoveable, especially if he was calling Smart a piece of crap, or worse.

We could parse the situation further, but the mistake Smart made is obvious, and how it happened is completely understandable. It’s possible to criticize Smart while also empathizing with him, and that’s probably where this should end. Three games feels like the right suspension.
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That was the only thought from Saturday night that stuck with me till today. It sucks that he’s stuck in college, costing himself money with each bad game, and not getting paid a dime while SportsCenter and 100,000 people on Twitter turn five seconds of video into 48 hours of debate about his character and his future.

Marcus Smart is a guy who watched his older brother die when he was 9 years old, who had the rest of his brothers tell him it’s up to him to carry the family, and now he’s doing it. His first purchase when he makes the NBA will be a new kidney for his mom. Does he really need to put up with some college basketball writer crowing about all the lessons he needs to learn?

TEX 02-10-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 10424510)
Coward dumb fan standing behind his fan shield heckling and saying stupid things to college kids should have expected more that what happened.

These are college kids playing a game...what is the purpose of a grown man being this stupid to a kid?

Really? How many times had the same thing happened without a college basketball player shoving a fan in the stands? Id venture to say millions of times. If Smart cant handle it at this level, whats he gonna do at the next? Go "Ron Artest" on someone in the stands? He definitely has some lessons to learn. Dont minimize what he did. Fault on both sides.....

Fans say shit. Always have - always will. They get asked to leave events and sometimes get banned from coming back. Sometimes they even go to jail for their actions. That's the norm in that instance. There are much better ways for an athlete to deal with out of line fans who act and say stupid stuff.

vailpass 02-10-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10424587)

Needing to take care of his family is all the more reason for him to control his temper as nba scouts look on...

GloryDayz 02-10-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10424573)
I get that you're talking about younger kids.

But just for the record, you're opposed to grown men harassing strangers they've never met before? I wonder if Orr will re-examine his behavior when it's his own kids that get heckled.

I personally feel that if we looked the other way for a while (a few years) and let these players beat the shit out of fans when they scream out-right obscenities, we might find that these asshole fans STFU (and cheer their along instead of degrade the other team).

While I don't want to go back to prehistoric days, I do think we need to evolve to a state where you only talk as tough as you're willing to back up (or try to). This cowardly shit of expecting the players to be the bigger person is shit!

Yell while the other team is trying to concentrate, be quite so your team can focus and think, and waive those goofy things to distract them then they shoot free throws - it's all good, but call an athlete a name/insult only as much as you're willing to back up.

I think fat-man is little more than an Internet tough guy. He may be there in person, but he's sure counting on rules and the current pussification of the planet keeping his teeth secured to his gums.

Fansy the Famous Bard 02-10-2014 12:41 PM

I chuckled.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps2fd01460.jpg

from the phog

GloryDayz 02-10-2014 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10424607)
Really? How many times had the same thing happened without a college basketball player shoving a fan in the stands? Id venture to say millions of times. If Smart cant handle it at this level, whats he gonna do at the next? Go "Ron Artest" on someone in the stands? He definitely has some lessons to learn. Dont minimize what he did. Fault on both sides.....

Fans say shit. Always have - always will. They get asked to leave events and sometimes get banned from coming back. Sometimes they even go to jail for their actions. That's the norm in that instance. There are much better ways for an athlete to deal with out of line fans who act and say stupid stuff.

Well, fans only talk shit because they feel safe hiding behind the rules. I get your point, I really do, but I'm fine with people like fat-man getting his junk punched for being an asshole.

KC native 02-10-2014 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10424442)
Because I saw the video and clearly heard "you piece of crap," and to the best of my knowledge, none of the other fans nearby have stepped forward to back up Smart's version of events.

Don't get me wrong, Orr is still a no-life loser who gets his jollies by insulting college athletes, but that doesn't automatically make him a racist.

Because they're piece of shit sand aggie fans.

Aside from that, the camera was not pointed in the direction of Orr when the piece of crap comment comes in so saying that is definitively what Orr said is ****ing ridiculous.

SAUTO 02-10-2014 12:46 PM

this whole is ****ing stupid, especially smart. what and idiot

KC native 02-10-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10424325)
Yeah, I get it, but he prolly just drug his whole family into the fray and the further testing of what can be said while having the expectation that no matter what's said, the person receiving the comments is supposed to just walk away.

If there are kids in his life, his own or grandkids, this could get ugly...

don't care. They're probably sand aggie fans too.

GloryDayz 02-10-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10424703)
don't care. They're probably sand aggie fans too.

I like your style....

KC native 02-10-2014 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10424716)
I like your style....

I hate sand aggies as much as the raiders and donkeys.

GloryDayz 02-10-2014 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10424722)
I hate sand aggies as much as the raiders and donkeys.

Well if you run across fat-man and his two-bit whore wife, make sure you taunt them ruthlessly and remind them that their brain-dead parents messed up when they didn't choose to abort them...

Mr. Laz 02-10-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10424426)
Why isn't Smart getting more criticism for lying and playing the race card? How are we ever going to get past racism if those who cry wolf about it aren't called out?

absolutely should be getting blasted for it

you don't yell fire in a movie theater, unless there is one
you don't cry rape unless you have been
you don't play the race card unless it really was


imo you should definitely get into trouble if you bullshit about this type of stuff


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