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beach tribe 03-25-2014 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10515749)
That's the exact conversation we've been having, since free agency started.

Whether Smith was worth 2 2nds?

I guess I don't engage in those conversations for a reason.

beach tribe 03-25-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10515752)
He still might.

touche'. lol.
But I am glad he's had two off-seasons, and more strength training before he gets the chance.

htismaqe 03-25-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10515755)
Whether Smith was worth 2 2nds?

I guess I don't engage in those conversations for a reason.

No, sorry.

I was talking about the "just give them a chance. The jury is still out" comment.

temper11 03-25-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10515658)
I don't buy that at all. That's the "he was just holding back" argument. If you want to say he got more comfortable in the offense, fine. If you want to talk about him being more aggressive throwing the football, that's fine, too. But the "he was holding back because he didn't need to" thing? I will never buy that.



None of those guys rely as much on their legs as Alex Smith did to be effective. Smith also has had shoulder and concussion problems in the past. A flare up or reinjury of either could be a big problem for his long-term health.

The bigger issue, that I was trying to call out, is that with the exception of Justin Houston and MAYBE Eric Fisher (who hasn't proven he is even competent yet), all the rest of the "core" players are guys who are nearing the end of their prime/hitting the wrong side of 30.

It seems like a strange time to switch to a long-term build approach.

I didn't say he was holding back. I said that it is likely he was managing the game differently than when he was facing high-powered offenses and dealing with a struggling KC defense. He has been called a game manager for so long as an insult, now when it appears clear that it is exactly what he is doing, very successfully and to the strength of his team - people move away from the term

DeezNutz 03-25-2014 01:32 PM

Finally. Players picked at 1/1 must produce immediately, and at least now we'll be getting value for the selection.

GloryDayz 03-25-2014 02:28 PM

Alex Smith, 1984 -014:

http://nopepperplaying.files.wordpre...04/outline.jpg

Mr. Laz 03-25-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10515721)
Its pretty simple.

A 3rd round pick is TRADEABLE. A comp pick IS NOT.

Nevermind the fact that the Dolphins have the 81st pick in the 3rd, 15 picks before the comp picks even start rolling out. But we wont even get the pick til next year.

so what

not being tradeable doesn't make a draft pick worthless

15 picks lower reduces value but having Albert for another year to help our young Oline was valuable too.

Messier 03-25-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10516085)

Same basic line as the last month of last season.

The Franchise 03-25-2014 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10516168)
Same basic line as the last month of last season.

Fisher played LT for the last month?

Deberg_1990 03-25-2014 03:29 PM

Fisher gonna "light it up" this season and shake Dem haters off.
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GloryDayz 03-25-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10516239)
Fisher gonna "light it up" this season and shake Dem haters off.
Posted via Mobile Device

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-v6CDJT2Bdd...Hands-2007.jpg

O.city 03-25-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10515450)
Yup I believe he isn't the answer.

Jets are already shaky on him. Reason he fell so far

An I believe eric fisher was a god awful pick who will never live up to anywhere close to his draft status.

You're quite the hypocrite

But gang signs and tarps

chiefzilla1501 03-25-2014 03:50 PM

Despite what people here say....

Fisher improved into an average right tackle by year end
Fisher was raw and inexperienced, and we knew the first year would be a learning curve
Fisher was raw AND had a short offseason due to new cba rules
Fisher is better suited for the left where footwork is more important than strength, and where he has more instinctual technique
Fisher was undersized and can easily grow into a left tackle frame. I'd expect a poe like improvement in conditoning

Lots of reasons to be concerned, but those things above are reasons to be optimistic that he will at least be average.

RunKC 03-25-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10516293)
An I believe eric fisher was a god awful pick who will never live up to anywhere close to his draft status.

You're quite the hypocrite

But gang signs and tarps

Love how you tried to throw the racist card in there. I don't like Geno bc he's a selfish douche.

I already said Geno will get 3 years like the rest, but that doesn't mean I think he will be successful. Jets need to win NOW and if Geno keeps doing what he did last year, he's going to the bench. If that happens I doubt he'll start again for any team.
You can bag on Fisher all you want. I think he'll be a good player, and 32 nfl GM's obviously didn't think as much for Geno.

It's not being hypocritical at all. I just don't like Geno.

O.city 03-25-2014 03:58 PM

He was so average that he was benched?


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