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'Hamas' Jenkins 12-30-2014 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11230351)
Crabtree was coming back from an injury in 2012, nice try though.

He was not. He played all 16 games in 2012. He missed the entire PS in 2011 and tore his Achilles in the offseason between 2012 and 2013.

SAUTO 12-30-2014 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11230372)
I'm pulling numbers out of my ass.

Makes sense

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-30-2014 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11230364)
Wrong, Megget?

****IN BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You and Clay seem to be the only guys not in full on lust with this kid... what the hell is your problem with this rookie? To me, he's one of those extremely rare guys where every time they even come close to getting the ball its worthy of a "the entire stadium audibly held its breath" moment.

Returns punts for touchdowns.
He's runs jet sweeps like a mfer.
Already learning how to go deep for a catch.

Dave Meggett was a really, really ****ing good football player. That's not a slam at all. I don't know how you could think otherwise.

Would you take comparing Travis Kelce to Mark Bavaro as a slight too?

SAUTO 12-30-2014 06:23 PM

Same with all the teams where bowe would be a 3.

Baby Lee 12-30-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11230366)
It's exactly what you implied.

If Dorsey, Reid and Smith are staying, and everyone acknowledges this, what is the point of stating it?

Either you are inferring that people are claiming that they are gone, which doesn't exist, which is a strawman, or you are wasting time by stating the patently obvious in Maddenesque fashion.

Illogical or pointless, likely both, but that's a digression overall from the punch-drunk stupidity of your post in its entirety.

You seem to have a serious reading comprehension problem.

This whole line of conversation started comparing Sandy's realistic acknowledgement that Smith is here to stay compared to his detractors, many of whom want the entire building to burn.

It doesn't matter if they grudgingly admit it's not likely to happen. It's what they harp on, hope for, and bitch about incessantly.

rabblerouser 12-30-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11230373)
He was not. He played all 16 games in 2012. He missed the entire PS in 2011 and tore his Achilles in the offseason between 2012 and 2013.

That's right, 2011- that's the year Alex Smith outgunned Drew Brees to take SF to the NFC Championship Game. That crazy deep pass to Vernon Davis...

My bad. I stand corrected.

SAUTO 12-30-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11230378)
You seem to have a serious reading comprehension problem.

This whole line of conversation started comparing Sandy's realistic acknowledgement that Smith is here to stay compared to his detractors, many of whom want the entire building to burn.

It doesn't matter if they grudgingly admit it's not likely to happen. It's what they harp on, hope for, and bitch about incessantly.

Actually I hope for him to play with the intensity and the fire he played with in the playoff game against the colts every game.

ODESSABRONC 12-30-2014 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11229861)
I'm with Hootie, for better or worse here... Smith is so limited physically and in many ways, mentally, it seems.

But if you put some of these other cannon armed brickheads behind this same line?... yeah, the outcome is atleast just as bad and probably even worse... thats not sticking up for smiff, just common sense.

I don't remember everyone from the list but two at least two of those guys were rookies. I don't know if Carr or Bridgewater will make it in this League it's little early say they won't but I would rather take a chance on a guy who has vastly more potential than a 10 year vet who hasn't done jack. The fact of matter is team can and have won with rookie quarterbacks they don't necessarily have to on a complete team. If the team has good running attack, a solid defense and are descent on special teams they can win.

rabblerouser 12-30-2014 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11230377)
Same with all the teams where bowe would be a 3.

Chicago
Denver
Pittsburgh
Indy
Carolina
Buffalo
Arizona
Green Bay
Cincy
Detroit
Atlanta
New Orleans
San Diego
Jacksonville

rabblerouser 12-30-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11230376)
Dave Meggett was a really, really ****ing good football player. That's not a slam at all. I don't know how you could think otherwise.

Would you take comparing Travis Kelce to Mark Bavaro as a slight too?

Meggett was great in NY and NE, in the slot, out of the backfield or the old 'H-back' set, he did it all, a precursor to the Randle Els and Percy Harvins that followed.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-30-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11230378)
You seem to have a serious reading comprehension problem.

This whole line of conversation started comparing Sandy's realistic acknowledgement that Smith is here to stay compared to his detractors, many of whom want the entire building to burn.

It doesn't matter if they grudgingly admit it's not likely to happen. It's what they harp on, hope for, and bitch about incessantly.

Who said that Smith wasn't here to say? Who said that Reid, Dorsey, et. al weren't here to stay?

It absolutely does matter if they acknowledge its existence. No one is grudgingly admitting that it's not likely. The certainty of it is what breeds the anxiety and discontent.

Your entire train of thought in this thread comes from baseless claims about what you think others have said (that you can't talk about improving WRs or the line, both undeniably false).

In order for Sandy Cheeks to be in reality while everyone else isn't, there would have to be a belief that Smith isn't here long-term. Well, where is that belief?

There is a difference between a desire and a belief, and I don't think someone that conflates the two should begrudge anyone for reading comprehension issues, especially when they can't get elementary facts about what is and isn't said over personnel decisions, correct.

rabblerouser 12-30-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ODESSABRONC (Post 11230386)
I don't remember everyone from the list but two at least two of those guys were rookies. I don't know if Carr or Bridgewater will make it in this League it's little early say they won't but I would rather take a chance on a guy who has vastly more potential than a 10 year vet who hasn't done jack. The fact of matter is team can and have won with rookie quarterbacks they don't necessarily have to on a complete team. If the team has good running attack, a solid defense and are descent on special teams they can win.


I would never start a rookie behind such a dumpster fire Oline.

Sandy Vagina 12-30-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11230390)
Chicago
Denver
Pittsburgh
Indy
Carolina
Buffalo
Arizona
Green Bay
Cincy
Detroit
Atlanta
New Orleans
San Diego
Jacksonville

what about Baltimore for you? would you start Bowe over either Smith?

or Houston.. Hopkins and Andre J...

rabblerouser 12-30-2014 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11230406)
what about Baltimore for you? would you start Bowe over either Smith?

or Houston.. Hopkins and Andre J...

Good call.

Add 'em to the list.

Over the half the league, Bowe would be a #3.

THAT is who is overpaid.

Baby Lee 12-30-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11230403)
Who said that Smith wasn't here to say? Who said that Reid, Dorsey, et. al weren't here to stay?

It absolutely does matter if they acknowledge its existence. No one is grudgingly admitting that it's not likely. The certainty of it is what breeds the anxiety and discontent.

Your entire train of thought in this thread comes from baseless claims about what you think others have said (that you can't talk about improving WRs or the line, both undeniably false).

In order for Sandy Cheeks to be in reality while everyone else isn't, there would have to be a belief that Smith isn't here long-term. Well, where is that belief?

There is a difference between a desire and a belief, and I don't think someone that conflates the two should begrudge anyone for reading comprehension issues, especially when they can't get elementary facts about what is and isn't said over personnel decisions, correct.

God it's sad when someone's bluster loses its bite.


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