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Discuss Thrower 01-18-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11275528)
Only if he earns it.

What Roundup said.

You don't bench a guy you're paying $20m a year that you acquired for two second rounders.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-18-2015 11:30 AM

The anti-QB contingent is going to get exactly the franchise they deserve.

O.city 01-18-2015 11:34 AM

So those charts aren't even recent? Jesus

NJChiefsFan 01-18-2015 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11275565)
What Roundup said.

You don't bench a guy you're paying $20m a year that you acquired for two second rounders.

And there is my major problem. I'm not really killing Reid/Dorsey for not having a replacement for Alex because besides the potential in Bridgewater, they haven't passed on much. The Foles rumor makes me feel better as well. But it's time to try something so that we can put somebody behind Alex to at least push him. It's time they take a bigger swing than Murray.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-18-2015 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 11275662)
And there is my major problem. I'm not really killing Reid/Dorsey for not having a replacement for Alex because besides the potential in Bridgewater, they haven't passed on much. The Foles rumor makes me feel better as well. But it's time to try something so that we can put somebody behind Alex to at least push him. It's time they take a bigger swing than Murray.

Yeah, they might step up to the THIRD ROUND! w00t!

Saccopoo 01-18-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11275645)
The anti-QB contingent is going to get exactly the franchise they deserve.

See, the problem here is that you think that there is an "anti-QB contingent."

There really isn't.

Discuss Thrower 01-18-2015 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11275686)
See, the problem here is that you think that there is an "anti-QB contingent."

There really isn't.

Uh huh.

This thread is proof enough. You need a QB that elevates the play of those around him to contend for titles. Instead people are looking to rookies and possible FA targets to elevate the QB's play.

It's the same things that were said about Cassel... And Huard...

ThaVirus 01-18-2015 12:27 PM

LNBS: Can Alex Smith be "Fixed"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11275655)
So those charts aren't even recent? Jesus


They were probably from that 8 game stretch he had in 2012, if I had to guess. The guy is a 9er transplant douche so that'd be a safe bet.

I think Alex was 3 for 19 on passes traveling over 20 yards in the air this year, which is horrendous.

Just like the Avery gif they pull out so often, that graph is just what they cling to when they say he can be accurate when passing downfield.

Yes. He can be. He hasn't been 8 years out of his 10 year career but he did it once so there's that!

OnTheWarpath15 01-18-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11275528)
Only if he earns it.

He didn't earn the two years he's already received.

He's not going anywhere, sadly.

Saccopoo 01-18-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11275690)
Uh huh.

This thread is proof enough. You need a QB that elevates the play of those around him to contend for titles. Instead people are looking to rookies and possible FA targets to elevate the QB's play.

It's the same things that were said about Cassel... And Huard...

I'd argue that Smith has elevated the play of those around him. Quite easily.

This team, with basically the same starters, went 2-14 in 2013 and set NFL and franchise records for ineptitude. They were, without question, the worst team in football. And it wasn't close.

Yet, that team was comprised of super studs like Jamaal Charles, Dwayne Bowe, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Eric Berry, Brandon Albert, Dontari Poe, et al.

Within one season, you go from that horrific 2-14 to 11-5 and the playoffs. Sure, the schedule was a piece of cake, but that's a hell of a turn around in a single season. I believe it actually tied the NFL record for best turnaround in a single season. And what was the singular difference between that season and the previous one? I'll give you a hint:

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/A...9MxGyscoOl.jpg

(And in that playoff game, that new QB sets franchise records for QB playoff performance.)

Then, the next season, when faced with the NFL's toughest schedule, they go 9-7 and on the verge of the playoffs even though they lost four main players to IR.

Tell me that's not elevating the players around you.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-18-2015 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11275731)
I'd argue that Smith has elevated the play of those around him. Quite easily.

This team, with basically the same starters, went 2-14 in 2013 and set NFL and franchise records for ineptitude. They were, without question, the worst team in football. And it wasn't close.

Yet, that team was comprised of super studs like Jamaal Charles, Dwayne Bowe, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Eric Berry, Brandon Albert, Dontari Poe, et al.

Within one season, you go from that horrific 2-14 to 11-5 and the playoffs. Sure, the schedule was a piece of cake, but that's a hell of a turn around in a single season. I believe it actually tied the NFL record for best turnaround in a single season. And what was the singular difference between that season and the previous one? I'll give you a hint:

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/A...9MxGyscoOl.jpg

(And in that playoff game, that new QB sets franchise records for QB playoff performance.)

Then, the next season, when faced with the NFL's toughest schedule, they go 9-7 and on the verge of the playoffs even though they lost four main players to IR.

Tell me that's not elevating the players around you.

Nope. That was "new car smell" for an already talented roster. Smith only mildly peed in the back seat.

Discuss Thrower 01-18-2015 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11275731)
I'd argue that Smith has elevated the play of those around him. Quite easily.

This team, with basically the same starters, went 2-14 in 2013 and set NFL and franchise records for ineptitude. They were, without question, the worst team in football. And it wasn't close.

Yet, that team was comprised of super studs like Jamaal Charles, Dwayne Bowe, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Eric Berry, Brandon Albert, Dontari Poe, et al.

Within one season, you go from that horrific 2-14 to 11-5 and the playoffs. Sure, the schedule was a piece of cake, but that's a hell of a turn around in a single season. I believe it actually tied the NFL record for best turnaround in a single season. And what was the singular difference between that season and the previous one? I'll give you a hint:

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/A...9MxGyscoOl.jpg

(And in that playoff game, that new QB sets franchise records for QB playoff performance.)

Then, the next season, when faced with the NFL's toughest schedule, they go 9-7 and on the verge of the playoffs even though they lost four main players to IR.

Tell me that's not elevating the players around you.

Matt Cassel / Tyler Palko / Kyle Orton went 7-9 with Thomas Jones and Jackie Battle at HB, Jake O'Connell at tight end, Bowe and Baldwin at WR with a defense that started Jon McGraw and Sabby Piscatelli at safety.

OnTheWarpath15 01-18-2015 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11275756)
Nope. That was "new car smell" for an already talented roster. Smith only mildly peed in the back seat.

The defense went from complete ass to playing at a historic level for 9 of the 11 wins in 2013, but it was Captain Mormon's doing.

Comical.

RealSNR 01-18-2015 12:55 PM

Is Smith actually Mormon?

Asking for a friend.

Simply Red 01-18-2015 01:04 PM

do you think Smith ever literally pee'd in his lady friend's butt? srs question.


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